The official Windows XP 64bit thread
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razor1394
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Mar 2005 13:03    Post subject: The official Windows XP 64bit thread
The official Windows Xp 64bit thread



Official main site: LINK
AMD's site about XP64: LINK
Anandtech preview on XP64: LINK
Paul Thurrott's XP64 introduction: LINK

Let's keep all the general discussions and questions about the new 64bit OS from MS here.

BTW, I was just reading the announcement which said that they wouldn't sell the OS to private persons but only to OEM companies. Hmmm, very smart. Rolling Eyes Everyone who builds his own computer will probably pirate it or go linux X86_64 instead. Either a release group would have to get it leaked somehow or release an OEM disc (which isn't exactly an option).
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Mar 2005 22:52    Post subject:
Ok, so I figure RC2 is out (... i think) - when is it reasonable to assume the OEM version will... be made availible to the public? Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Mar 2005 23:04    Post subject:
There are rumors it will go RTM (final) the 28th this month. The problem with OEM releases is that manufacturers like Dell will stack up all kinds of crap on it. But there seems to be some kind of trade program for those who have 32bit XP. And when you think about it, It shouldn't be so problematic for the release groups to get a retail copy.
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Mar 2005 23:30    Post subject:
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking about. Smile Remember devilsown?


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Mar 2005 00:03    Post subject:
Yup. I'll never forget that.

BTW, the big problem is present if you are going the legal way. You'll either have to trade in an exisitng xp32 copy or buy a processor. So if you don't have xp32 and already bought 64bit hardware you're screwed.

I think the reason for this is to let the OEM manufacturers take care of the support. Without retail copies selling worldwide MS won't have to give support. Maybe they'll go retail when the product is more robust.
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Mar 2005 11:52    Post subject:
If you can upload this version plz!
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Mar 2005 11:56    Post subject:
bulba wrote:
If you can upload this version plz!


*COUGH* NOT HERE! READ THE RULES! *COUGH*.
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Mar 2005 12:02    Post subject:
Screwed? Only if you have to use MS OS Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005 09:52    Post subject: Windows XP64bit To Be Released Tomorrow
Windows XP64bit To Be Released Tomorrow

Neowin wrote:
Microsoft is expected to announce tomorrow that Windows XP Professional 64-bit and Service Pack 1 for Windows Server 2003 have been released to manufacturing to be produced for general release next month WinBeta has learnt.

Build 1830 has been deemed worthy of release after 18 long months of beta testing of a product that many companies showed inital reluctance to install after Microsoft let slip that Service Pack 1 was already in the works at the release of Windows Server 2003 itself.

The service pack offers a compilation of updates as well as new security enhancements and originally was due in the first half of 2004.

The new Windows editions are designed to take advantage of 64-bit extensions to the standard x86 instruction set in processors from both Advanced Micro Devices Inc. (AMD) and Intel Corp. 64-bit systems offer users greater computing power as systems can process more data per clock cycle and have greater access to memory.


Source

Let's see how well this goes...
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005 15:35    Post subject:
Does anyone know how the trade in procedure will work?
Do I have to send in something physical or just download an update?
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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005 12:49    Post subject:
Microsoft.Windows.XP.Professional.x64.Edition-WBi

Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005 12:53    Post subject:
if I don't have a 64-bit PC, can I still use this?
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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005 12:56    Post subject:
Avenger_

Quote:

x64 Edition Technology Advancement Software Redemption
End users may redeem:

Windows XP Professional x64 Edition Technology Advancement software and/or
Windows Server 2003 x64 Edition Technology Advancement software
in exchange for:
Qualifying Software-Microsoft Windows XP Professional and/or
Qualifying Microsoft Windows Server 2003
End users must be eligible to qualify for the Technology Advancement Program.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Qualified Software
In order for the Customer System to be eligible for Technology Advancement Software, the end user customer must have acquired qualifying Windows XP Professional software (Qualified Software) from a system builder:
Preinstalled on a fully assembled computer system (Customer System) or
Sold with a non-peripheral hardware component.
Qualified Software may only be upgraded with the corresponding Technology Advancement Software as in the table below.
Technology Advancement Software Prior Product
Microsoft Windows XP Professional x64 Edition Microsoft Windows XP Professional

-----------------------------------------------------------

Proof of Acquisition Requirements
Windows XP and Windows Server 2003
Orders placed online require users to submit:
System acquisition date
Windows XP Product Key
located on the Certificate of Authenticity on the back of the customer’s PC or
located on the shrink-wrap around the manual or on the back of the manual—unless the system builder places it elsewhere—and if Qualified Software was purchased with non-peripheral hardware component.
Windows Server 2003 Product Key
located on the Certificate of Authenticity on the back of the customer’s PC or
located on the shrink-wrap around the manual or on the back of the manual—unless the system builder places it elsewhere—and if Qualified Software was purchased with non-peripheral hardware component.
Microsoft reserves the right to request Proof of Acquisition to ensure end-user eligibility.


LINK TO THE TRADE IN

[-BiG_W-] - Nice, but I would like to see the reduced media edition (N edition) one released instead.

Nezul - No you can't. Even if you could, you wouldn't gain anything on it.
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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005 17:28    Post subject:
Microsoft.Windows.XP.Professional.x64.Edition-WBi

legit?
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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005 19:50    Post subject:
Microsoft.Windows.XP.Professional.x64.Edition-WBi

is is nuked for not cracked and some shit about not bin/cue.... ?
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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005 21:15    Post subject:
Yes more precisely not.bin.cue.and.activation.not.cracked.correctly. Damn, I just downloaded this. Crap!
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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005 21:30    Post subject:
hmm ..

Microsoft.Windows.Server.2003.x64.Standard.Edition.READ.NFO-WBi
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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005 21:31    Post subject:
Yes but that's the x86_64 editon of 2003 server.
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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005 21:39    Post subject:
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Microsoft.Windows.XP.Professional.x64.Edition-WBi

i think this one is not so bad, someone is gona crack that activation soner or later so...

i dont even think this guys tryed to crack it...
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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005 23:27    Post subject:
i wouldn't trust this 64bit as far as i could throw it. that would be if i a burnt it on a 12ft novelty cd made of stone


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 13:32    Post subject:
i also dual boot, gentoo X86_64 architecture and xp 32 bit.
then i saw this wbi release and thought why not use the crack from brick for 2004 server? so i windows xp 64bit installed, customized it, found those nagging "decorated" drivers which you 'have' to use now or your computer will simply reboot if they are not decorated! nice going microshaft!....
Anyway i got it all set up started to setup the games which is the reason i dual boot duh Razz and what do i find? all the starforce games DOES NOT WORK because the starforce interface driver isn't 64 bit or compatible hahahaha, so if the prime reason to run windows is games forget about 64bit all those starforce games you have won't work. i'm going back to 32bit and i will just run 64 bit @ linux gentoo "where it rightly belongs and works" Twisted Evil
And no the brick crack from 2003 server doesn't work.
EDIT:
Find decorated drivers www.planetamd64.com
and www.64bitstuff.com
a guide on how to decorate your 64bit driver http://www.64bitstuff.com/index.php?act=tutorials&CODE=view&id=5
thats all from me, im reinstalling winxp 32bit now and reloading grub bootloader.
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Soyd




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Apr 2005 07:06    Post subject:
anyone found a working activastion crack yet ?
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 12:33    Post subject:
Seeems nobody bothered to make a proper yet
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 20:13    Post subject:
Proper is out.
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Soyd




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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 20:18    Post subject:
yeah proper is out...

Microsoft.Windows.XP.Professional.x64.Edition.PROPER-EcHoS

but if you have the WBi version you don't need to re-install it just apply the crack from the proper version and your good...
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 21:07    Post subject:
So this is only standard edition with activation and not corporate Sad?
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 23:11    Post subject:
Not sure but someone posted bad.crack.will.expire.when.activation.grace.period.is.up about the "proper", not sure if that's confirmed. Seems like the best thing to do is wait a while before installing this one.


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[-BiG_W-]




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 00:45    Post subject:
As there's no rush to move to the new version I guess people will wait for the corporate to come out before installing.
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Apr 2005 14:33    Post subject:
What about the PLANKISO release Microsoft.Windows.XP.Professional.x64.Edition.plankiso ?
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Apr 2005 23:21    Post subject:
well i think all crap until we see a *corporate*oem* add on release name.

and by the way does winxp64 include anything different than 32b except 64bit support? Sorry for this that i dont read much Smile
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