[XBOX] richard burns rally (c) warthog *pal* *fulldvd*
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Megahoover




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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Jul 2004 00:28    Post subject: [XBOX] richard burns rally (c) warthog *pal* *fulldvd*
Richard Burns Rally first review at Totalgames, gave it 75%

http://www.totalgames.net/pma/19976

From Totalgames:
"The true pace of rallying isn't always evident though, and either the speedometer is telling lies or,
as is more likely, the racing runs just a little slower than we've seen before"

Eh?
From what I have read earlier on OXM, is that it is blistering fast... Confused

www.richardburnsrally.com


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Ispep
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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Jul 2004 00:38    Post subject:
I don't think you can ever truly achieve that sense of speed in games without completely debilitating the driver from the ability to corner at the right times.

I've heard nothing but good comments about this for the PC version (which is being reworked for it's later release with more simulation features - APPARENTLY).

Would like to hear what the console version is like at least though.


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Megahoover




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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Jul 2004 19:13    Post subject:
I have tried Richard Burns Rally, and I recommend anyone who is gonna
buy a Xbox rally game this year, to wait for Colin McRae Rally 2005...
Release Date 10/04/2004.

Because I think this game is worth about 60% in reviews.

Hard to drive, it feels like you drive on soap all the fu.. time!

And when you look at the speedometer and it says 100 kmh,
it really feels like 50 kmh.

The graphics is not good, more like mediocre PS2 graphics,
than top notch graphics on Xbox.
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bobbyg




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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Jul 2004 20:36    Post subject:
yup..tend to agree...the cars are a bitch to control.....and forget it if you like to drive using the "behind the car" look....impossible......was looking forward to this one too......disappointed:(
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mcmanic




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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Jul 2004 22:54    Post subject:
depends on how good you are at rally driving games,yes its a bitch to control,but i'm certainly enjoying it more than rallisport challange 2,that game was just to easy!....there was no challenge in that game for sure,lol
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SnakekanS




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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Jul 2004 02:33    Post subject:
i read in a preview that u need over 10h of driving to get used to the control.
being a simulation, its kind of normal that the controls are hard in the beginning guys !
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5A63




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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Jul 2004 05:58    Post subject: Its not an arcade game.
They are used to playing need for speed probley..
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Jul 2004 09:15    Post subject:
SnakekanS wrote:
i read in a preview that u need over 10h of driving to get used to the control.
being a simulation, its kind of normal that the controls are hard in the beginning guys !


I totally agree! More of a challange when you have to "learn" how to drive first, rather than pressing the pedal to the metal and drive like a maniac in an "arcadish-kinda-game"! Give this title some time and you will be pleasantly surprised...I know I was!

Jack "Burnout" Flack Very Happy
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XaNoR




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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Jul 2004 10:49    Post subject:
I think the game will rock on PC, lags on my Xbox Sad With a good steeringwheel it will rock...
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5A63




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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Jul 2004 12:30    Post subject: I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION
HOW IS THE REPLAY'S? DOES IT LOOK GOOD IN THE REPLAYS?
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Megahoover




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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Jul 2004 13:27    Post subject:
Nope,,, hate NFS games,, that is Arcade 100%.. Smile

I like games with simulation in it, but this game is not good....
Crappy sound.. crappy graphics... and crappy driving(can be the driver)....

But other than that its just fine..
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Megahoover




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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Jul 2004 15:50    Post subject:
Jack Flack wrote:
SnakekanS wrote:
i read in a preview that u need over 10h of driving to get used to the control.
being a simulation, its kind of normal that the controls are hard in the beginning guys !


I totally agree! More of a challange when you have to "learn" how to drive first, rather than pressing the pedal to the metal and drive like a maniac in an "arcadish-kinda-game"! Give this title some time and you will be pleasantly surprised...I know I was!

Jack "Burnout" Flack Very Happy


I have played this for about 5 hours now.
and I must say that you guys are.... right... shame on me...

Ps. Maybe I like NFS, when I come too think about it.. Rolling Eyes
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Huggy_Bear




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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Jul 2004 16:49    Post subject:
tried this game for like 10 min, and it sucked, Rallisport Challenge 2 is the best rally game on xbox... rating of this game 1/10...
capice....
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AlSmoozie




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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Jul 2004 17:39    Post subject:
Huggy_Bear wrote:
tried this game for like 10 min, and it sucked, Rallisport Challenge 2 is the best rally game on xbox... rating of this game 1/10...
capice....


your rating for comparing rsc2 with richard burns rally: -5/10 Rolling Eyes
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SnakekanS




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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Jul 2004 19:26    Post subject:
Huggy_Bear wrote:
tried this game for like 10 min, and it sucked, Rallisport Challenge 2 is the best rally game on xbox... rating of this game 1/10...
capice....

lol yea..right....like u can really appreciate a game with 10 mins of driving
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bobbyg




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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Jul 2004 19:44    Post subject:
can i ask what camera view ppl are using on this one.....im convinced the "behind the car" view is damn harder???
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crizz




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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Jul 2004 17:40    Post subject:
I really wanted this game to be good, but it's not.

The sense of speed is weak and the feeling of taking turns and
breaking are non existing. The controler only vibrates when the
car is outside the track.

The only thing worth watching are the replays, the are great.
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pozmu




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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Jul 2004 17:44    Post subject:
behind camera is good for aracade games like burnout, for rally games in-car came is a must!
it's also almost impossible to drive from behind view in a game, if you have ever drove real car...
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NuclearWinter




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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Jul 2004 20:38    Post subject:
Quote:
The sense of speed is weak


I don't see this at all, it feels pretty damn fast to me. Especially with the in-car view which is what I normally use.

Keep in mind that the speed is in kilometers per hour and not miles per hour... When it says 100km/h that's actually only about 60mph you're doing, and 100+km/h feels pretty damn fast to me in this game!

I'm a big rally fan and I love this game so far, best rally sim since Rally Trophy. My only disappointments are that the damage modelling doesn't seem as "complete" as Colin McRae 04, meaning that there doesn't seem to be as many ways to damage the car. And also I was hoping for some longer stages (though I've not unlocked all of them yet).

The handling and physics feel absolutely great though, probably the best I've seen in a rally game. But it's definitely more of a simulation and both requires and rewards practice and some dedication (I definitely recommend getting comfortable with all the Advanced Rally School lessons).
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TGD




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jul 2004 00:49    Post subject:
This game is utter crap
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Cracky




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jul 2004 01:06    Post subject:
this game rox.. you just need to learn how to drive propperly its not some nfs arcade game!

i give it 7/10 for being over average Smile


and about the views u should sit in the car not swingman view..


Corvette - Simply The Best...
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jOnTe




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jul 2004 04:22    Post subject:
I like this game! Its hard as hell but when u do a good cornering it feels sooo great, dont do it often but....training and more training!

Sound ok

the gfx isnt so good imo. Ralli Sport II are much better!

Remeber that this is more a sim then a arcade game so it isnt a game for everyone, only us sim lovers! Idea
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mcmanic




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jul 2004 10:11    Post subject:
or to put it simply,this isn't a hold down the accelerator button type game as rally sport challange 2 is
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crizz




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jul 2004 13:09    Post subject:
NuclearWinter wrote:


I don't see this at all, it feels pretty damn fast to me. Especially with the in-car view which is what I normally use.

Keep in mind that the speed is in kilometers per hour and not miles per hour... When it says 100km/h that's actually only about 60mph you're doing, and 100+km/h feels pretty damn fast to me in this game!



First of all I always drive with the bumber/hood cam. Second, yes, I know it's km/h.

Take Rallisport 2, yes it's a arcade game but there you feel the power of a 300 bhp engine, you feel the vibrations from the tires and brakes
when you tear through the roads. And it's actually feels like you driving in high speeds.

This game lacks all that, instead you'll find youself looking on the speedometer all the time to find out if you driving to fast to take the next turn.
And by doing that, you easily loose control of the car.
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5A63




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jul 2004 18:26    Post subject: blah blah blah blah
ALL YOU KIDS JUST USED TO ARCADE TYPE RACING GAME..
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makev80




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jul 2004 19:58    Post subject:
I have played a lot of all kinds of rally and track simulations. I like games like Colin McRae Rally, Rallisport Challenge2, Project Gotham Racing, Gran Turismo series, Live For Speed, GTR mods, so I have some experience of car games, and I can tell that this game is plain shitty crap. I have never seen as bad handling as Richar Burns Rally has. It's almost impossible to keep your car straight in this game. You move thumbstick a 0.0000001 millimeters to left or right and your car spins or rolls. That's just crazy. This game gets 55/100 from me.

LOL, some people say that it's just part of the simulation that hadling is difficult, but when you go 200 km/h in this game and it feels like 80km/h and you fear to touch your controller so that your car won't go out of track, that's not simulation. It's very far from it.
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Phinor




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jul 2004 20:43    Post subject:
makev80 wrote:
It's almost impossible to keep your car straight in this game. You move thumbstick a 0.0000001 millimeters to left or right and your car spins or rolls. That's just crazy. This game gets 55/100 from me.

LOL, some people say that it's just part of the simulation that hadling is difficult, but when you go 200 km/h in this game and it feels like 80km/h and you fear to touch your controller so that your car won't go out of track, that's not simulation. It's very far from it.


Err, thumbstick? You can't play this game with a pad, try wheel or quit commenting, really
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makev80




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jul 2004 21:12    Post subject:
Oh well, they could have at least optimized it a bit for normal controller. I mean, how many console player has a wheel? I don't know anyone who has. Wheels are for computer simulations.
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Phinor




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jul 2004 21:16    Post subject:
This is a PC rally _simulation_, released to XBox&PS2 as well just for the console players that love simulations too.

Oh and CMR4, Rallisport Challenge 2 etc. are not simulations, they are arcade games for consoles Smile
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makev80




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jul 2004 21:20    Post subject:
Phinor wrote:
This is a PC rally _simulation_, released to XBox&PS2 as well just for the console players that love simulations too.

Oh and CMR4, Rallisport Challenge 2 etc. are not simulations, they are arcade games for consoles Smile


Well, I wasn't talking about them as simulations. They aren't simulations, but they are good fun. Richard Burns Rally may be a good computer game but as console game it is pure crap.

Edit: Well, my original text made it look like I was talking about them as simulations, but I wasn't. Still good fun anyway.
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