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LeoNatan
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 Posted: Tue, 15th Oct 2013 19:58 Post subject: [PS4] The Order: 1886 |
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 04:38 Post subject: |
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@headshot : this game is developed by Ready At Dawn studio, I think Santa Monica is only helping them.
Ready At Dawn is known for the decent PSP versions of God of War, although they were far from being as good as proper God of War.
This trailer didn't seem that amazing to me, but I hope I'm wrong...
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 13:06 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 13:13 Post subject: |
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i have no doubts that sony will bring something new, after playing some ps3 exclusives
m$ can pretty much gtfo with their lame exclusives
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 13:19 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 13:35 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 13:47 Post subject: |
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+1, sadly console exclusives will always be here, and IMO Sony has the best ones. I don't think either any MS game came closer to these, and I own both consoles.
| Mortibus wrote: | | Yondaime wrote: | Consoles overall can pretty much gtfo with their lame exclusives, to be honest.  |
u obviously didn't play heavy rain, gow series, last of us, beyond two souls 
not a single game on 360 looks even remotely close to those games, so yeah i'd rather play those on pc but it aint gonna happen, so |
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 14:06 Post subject: |
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MS aren't even trying. Well, i expect them to do something in the start, but it will die down. What has MS released lately? Nothing i can recall while Sony keeps creating pretty damn awesome games.
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Werelds
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 14:14 Post subject: |
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Butbutbut...GEARSOFHALOL AND STUFF!
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 14:20 Post subject: |
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| Yondaime wrote: | | I wasn't saying the games were lame, I was saying having games be console exclusives is lame and that they could have been so much better had they been on the PC... |
that doesn't make sense whatsoever. we have tons of multiplatform games between pc and consoles, i just don't see how PC makes them better? yes PC has better res and framerate and sometimes more eye candy, but core gameplay is almost always the same on pc and consoles.
let's take bioshock infinte. how is it better on pc? better res, textures and framerate. core gameplay, levels, voice acting, cutscenes are all the same as on consoles. did we get to carry all the guns in PC version? no. did we get any pc exclusive features except higher res and textures? no.
i just don't see how having let's say Uncharted 2 on PC would make it a whole better game.
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 14:31 Post subject: |
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| rgb#000 wrote: | | let's take bioshock infinte. how is it better on pc? |
You can opt for KB/M, that's how.
It's just one little choice (because you don't _have_ to, can still use a gamepad on PC if you want), but one that makes a world of difference for a lot of people (myself included)  |
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 14:37 Post subject: |
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if i was able to use kb+m in uncharted and landed a few more headshots don't think that would of made game any better or worse tbh.
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 14:51 Post subject: |
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i can live with a gamepad instead of kb+m for gaming, even though its inferior in many genres (unless its strategy, then its unacceptable), but what really pisses me off is the framerate.
games fucking need 60 fps, hell 30 fps are still acceptable for me as long as its rock solid, but anything below is unplayable shit and shouldnt even be released in that state.
give me 60 fps @1080p and sacrifice everything else if necessary, fuck off with motion blur on top of a 20 fps game, thats like spraying a turd with an air freshener.
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 15:10 Post subject: |
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| rgb#000 wrote: | | if i was able to use kb+m in uncharted and landed a few more headshots don't think that would of made game any better or worse tbh. |
Uncharted, not really.
RDR? Yes. The lack of KB/M support destroys that game's gameplay for me; it's also why I have not bought or even downloaded GTA V. I *know* the controls will annoy me insanely, so I'm just not gonna put myself through that again, regardless of how great the game may be.
Graphically I don't really give a shit either way, other than the framerate. Like The_Zeel says, a perfectly steady 30 I can live with, but very few games really do maintain that. And no amount of motion blur fixes that or makes it acceptable. TLoU is one of the best looking games of the past 5 years, despite the platform limitations - I would buy any "HD" version if we got one, simply because that's what the game deserves, but it was damn fine to look at already. |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 18:35 Post subject: |
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Paul again you with the controls?  This is on PS4, don't like it, don't play it. "Oh no, can't shoot a head shot so lets not enjoy a great story [RDR] omg not gonna play the next gaem fuick them"
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 18:49 Post subject: |
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| Werelds wrote: |
RDR? Yes. The lack of KB/M support destroys that game's gameplay for me; it's also why I have not bought or even downloaded GTA V. I *know* the controls will annoy me insanely, so I'm just not gonna put myself through that again, regardless of how great the game may be.
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WTF is this shit
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 19:32 Post subject: |
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| NFOAC wrote: |
WTF is this shit |
What didn't you understand?
| Werelds wrote: |
RDR? Yes. The lack of KB/M support destroys that game's gameplay for me; it's also why I have not bought or even downloaded GTA V. I *know* the controls will annoy me insanely, so I'm just not gonna put myself through that again, regardless of how great the game may be.
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Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, i like console games very much, some find console games not good enough, what's the problem?
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 20:30 Post subject: |
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| Adebisi wrote: | | Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, i like console games very much, some find console games not good enough, what's the problem? |
Fucking finally someone who gets it.
It's not the games themselves that I don't find good enough, it's that *one* mechanic I don't find good enough. TLoU was not an issue for me, because I'm not forced to shoot in most of the game. I can tolerate it up to a point, but when a game consists of 50% (or more) shooting, that's when it becomes a chore.
And yes, Leo, to me that means it may as well be a fucking QTE, as that at least is not a chore. It's equally boring and that's not what I, as in me, want from a game.
I will play GTA V eventually, assuming if it comes to PC. If not, nope. Same goes for RDR2. Unless I can use some input method that suits me better than goddamn sticks, no amount of graphics and story can fix what I find such a fundamental flaw.
Or would you not skip a racing sim, however gorgeous and realistic, if it forced you to play with a joystick using the Y and Z axes? Because that is what stick aiming is like for me. Maybe I'm a retard, so be it, but that is how I experience it. And if you don't have that issue, good for you. I do however. I still value gameplay over everything - if that is not right, I don't care how pretty it is or how good the story is. I'll read a fucking book instead, at least that won't get me frustrated.
Edit: to further elaborate, I'm also the kind of guy that grabs a joystick to control choppers and airplanes in ArmA - in BF3/4 however I don't, because joystick controls in that suck. I play the Batman games with a gamepad because I prefer that over KB/M in that case. I simply do not like stick aiming, period. It takes away from how much I can enjoy a game. I merely gave my opinion on a question someone else asked above. Don't get defensive over a game we know fuck all about yet. |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 21:09 Post subject: |
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Analogy is flawed. Racing game is about racing and nothing more. RDR is not primarily about shooting. And you can disable the autoaiming. So you don't want to aim and you don't want to have the game aim for you. 
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Oct 2013 21:34 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Analogy is flawed. Racing game is about racing and nothing more. RDR is not primarily about shooting. And you can disable the autoaiming. So you don't want to aim and you don't want to have the game aim for you. |
I do want to aim. I just want to aim with something that feels more natural than a little stick resulting in accelerated movement on the screen. I don't expect anyone to understand it. Like I said, maybe I'm a retard, I just can't stand the lack of precision. With that I do not mean head shots per se, I just hate the fact that you can't quickly switch between targets with any precision (without using auto aim that is, which is boring as hell). Or aim at targets further away -especially moving ones- because the acceleration on it will force you to either move at 1 pixel per second or to overshoot your target. Mouse acceleration also annoys me to hell and back, because it's fucking with my movements.
And that analogy isn't flawed. That is exactly what it feels like to me when I have to aim with that silly little stick. It's perfectly doable and I can hit shit just fine most of the time, but I know there are so much better ways of doing it, so that's when it gets frustrating. Might as well start using a tablet or phone instead of a proper keyboard to write code, same thing. Works fine, it's just far, far from optimal.
And how can you say RDR is not primarily about shooting? That is just...what? The core of the game most certainly is. A lot of the side tasks aren't, but the actual storyline for the most part revolves around shooting.
If you don't get why it frustrates me, fine. I don't get what frustrates people about Android either. I don't get what people see in Minecraft or Eve. I don't get what people saw in any of the Killzone or Gears of War games. Their cup of tea, not mine. |
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