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 Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005 02:14 Post subject: |
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Too bad it won't be multiplayer/co-op.
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005 04:30 Post subject: |
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| StarShine wrote: | | Im all for console conversions but being someone who owns both samurai warriors and the latest incarnation of dynasty warriors on the xbox I find it hard to understand why there even bothering bringing this out on pc. |
Well, you made a really dumb (no offense) and huge mistake. You placed yourself as the greatest and only opinion in the gaming community. Like if your needs and taste were the leading needs of the gaming community. Wrong wrong wrong.
There are people who dont have a PS2 nor an XBOX, because many prefer to just have a PC, and some believe owning a console is a waste of money.
There are people that dont even own those games, whether they have a PS2 or XBOX.
So for those guys and girls, they release this version.
I happen to LOVE the samurai warriors/sangoku musou games, but I dont have a PS2 (not anymore, sold it). So this release is for me. Its like Onimusha for the PC, is a pretty cool game on the best "console" of them all, the PC.
Plus, having this game ported to PCs is a breath of fresh air, because no game like this has been released for our beloved computers, except for the lame Joan of Arc game. NOt to mention that the PC version will have higher res, and will expand to the PCgamers market.
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sTo0z
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005 04:55 Post subject: |
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Hey if the PC version can remove the disappearing enemies I'm all for it.
Here's hoping!
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005 05:08 Post subject: |
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I just hope that they release it on nforce, like they did Onimusha.
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005 06:54 Post subject: |
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According to the official site, its release date is April 1st
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005 15:29 Post subject: |
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yea dynasty warriors 2 was amazing when it first came out but after a bit on a horse it got boring 
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005 15:41 Post subject: |
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| starshine wrote: | | Forums are all about opinions TheFreeman, some people will post onto a thread and express positive opinions about a game others will post negative, some just sit on the fence |
Yes, but whether you give a negative, positive, or neutral opinion, you should fundament your praise/accusations or whatnot, so that you truly state the reason of your opinion. That is exactly what I did.
I told you I love the game, Im really happy for the PC release, and I gave you several reasons why I feel this way.
And yes, forums are all about opinions, but as I said, you have yours, and I have mine. You bought the games and found them boring (I wonder why you bought both of them if you didnt like the first one? hmmmmm), and I bought DW 2 and loved it. Thats it. Im just saying your opinion brings NOTHING to this thread, which is about this game and its upcoming release for the PC.
| starshine wrote: | | im interested to know what there is to like about this game irrespective of whether its on the xbox/ps2 or pc. |
Ok, first of all, the type of gameplay it offers. Which is pretty rare on PCs, that is why is so refreshing. Another thing is the whole concept of it, as I told you on my previous post, but seems you havent read it 
| palleburn wrote: | These games suck to be honest. I have played them all on the ps2, and I even have some of them :/
They are incredible repetetive. All you do is roam around and do the same attacks over and over and over again, against a crapload of enemies. |
First, they suck for YOU. I dont know if you are one of those kids that like to play fast and funny games for a while, and get tired quickly, or if you are one of those players that dont like to make an effort to actually play the game. But you are entitled to your opinion.
Yes, it's repetitive, yes you roam around for hours and hours. Yes, there is a crapload of enemies.
All of these thingies I have read on gamespot before I bought the first Dynasty Warrios for PS2, and regardless of what I read, I LOVED the friggin game, couldnt get my hands off the controller for weeks and weeks.
Other facts you didnt mention is that there is TONS of characters to unlock, and tons of things to do.
| palleburn wrote: | | And this is NOT like onimusha, not at all. |
Maybe you should learn to read right, or I didnt explain myself correctly. I didnt say this is LIKE onimusha, I was referring that is like Onimusha in the sense that Onimusha is a PS2 game ported to PC only released in Japan, and then released on Nforce. Understand?
Regardless of what the two of you may say, I have spent countless hours playing these games, and I have enjoyed every minute.
Just the sheer feeling of being in a battlefield, commanding your army, saving other generals from a sure defeat, in my opinion, it provides the player with a really epic and larger than life feeling, like you are ON the battlefield, and you see hordes of enemies coming your way, with amazing war screams and great battle sounds.
Plus, you have a unique strategy element, that whether you may or may not like it, its there. If you play your cards wrong, you may loose many men, and your strategic position on the whole mission.
And on top of that, while you are battling, you battle along your fellow generals, side by side, that gives also a really great feeling of being part of an army. Even more, while you battle, you get several messages on the screen letting you know about the status of your allies, how the battle is going.
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005 16:15 Post subject: |
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| TheFreeman wrote: | | starshine wrote: | | im interested to know what there is to like about this game irrespective of whether its on the xbox/ps2 or pc. |
Ok, first of all, the type of gameplay it offers. Which is pretty rare on PCs, that is why is so refreshing. Another thing is the whole concept of it, as I told you on my previous post, but seems you havent read it
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Nah, I read your post I just didn't find much content in regards to why its such a great game. Putting concept and the novelty of playing it on a pc aside for me the type of gameplay that it offers was perfectly summed up by pallebrun your most recent post explains a little further what you liked about the game which is all I was asking.
| StarShine wrote: | The game in my opinion was pretty stale on its initial release, four sequels later and a spinoff game in the form of samurai warriors and its no longer stale its practically mouldy.
I guess I just didn't get this game at all, the hack and slash element gets repetitive and the strategy element (if you can call it that) isn't as clever as it likes to think it is. Also for a game thats supposed to have largescale epic battles the battles feel anything but and the levels lack atmosphere or a sense of genuine size about them. You can see from the screens as well looks as dated as it did when it came out on Xbox. |
That was the line of text from my earlier post that backed up my negative opinion of the game "TheFreeman" as I said dude, just opinions. 
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005 16:19 Post subject: |
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sTo0z
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005 20:44 Post subject: |
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I thought 5 was going to be the saviour of the series, but reviewers are saying same old rehash... pity.
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005 21:15 Post subject: |
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I really like the concept of these games, but it seems that the same mistakes keep being made.
You don't feel like you're part of a large battle at all because of the terrible view distance and the constant pop up of characters.
Rise and fall: civilizations at war, looks set to implement all the functionality of dynasty warriors except being far superior in every way, as well as being a strategy game!
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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| Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005 22:53 Post subject: |
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Rise and Fall is not an action game.
Well, Im sorry that you guys dont like this game. I do. And I dont care about the drawing distance and such, its still an amazing game to me.
Anyway, this thread is not intended for bashing the game, its intended for those that are hoping for its release.
I hope it gets released soon, even better if its released on Nforce.
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005 02:03 Post subject: |
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Great... more USEFUL posts...
Why are you people so negative about this game?
Anyway, I hate to tell you are wrong, but the PC version contains both the "empires" and "xtreme legends" upgrades and new characters. I repeat, the PC version is all the versions in one.
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005 03:06 Post subject: |
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Why do you feel that negative posts are less useful than positive ones? You don't need to take it personally that other people think games you like suck, they're just games...
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005 04:18 Post subject: |
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Lol, I dont take it personally man, come on, I was just saying that this is a thread about how cool it will be to have this game released on PC, as it will be.
Its pretty lame and useless to come here and say "this game sucks". I mean, in THIS specific thread context, where is the point in posting here if you hated the game?
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005 04:52 Post subject: |
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| TheFreeman wrote: | Rise and Fall is not an action game.
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Yes but in case you didn't know you can take control of a hero and go around anywhere on the battlefield fighting it out dynasty warriors style.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005 04:55 Post subject: |
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Great. I just downloaded a gameplay video, and I almost slept through it, it appears to be really boring and slow-paced.
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sTo0z
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005 09:02 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | I really like the concept of these games, but it seems that the same mistakes keep being made.
You don't feel like you're part of a large battle at all because of the terrible view distance and the constant pop up of characters.
Rise and fall: civilizations at war, looks set to implement all the functionality of dynasty warriors except being far superior in every way, as well as being a strategy game! |
Actually 5 is running a new/improved engine with near unlimited draw distance and no more popping guys (supposedly). |
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005 16:55 Post subject: |
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How do I change benchmark settings? :/
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005 18:07 Post subject: |
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UPDATED
- BENCHMARK direct link was not working, updated to main link and added instructions on how to download.
- Added link to e-shop.
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| Posted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005 21:39 Post subject: |
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UPDATED
The Path to Enlightment is as Thin and Narrow as the Blade of a Sword...
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Apr 2005 00:52 Post subject: |
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| TheFreeman wrote: | | Anyway, I hate to tell you are wrong, but the PC version contains both the "empires" and "xtreme legends" upgrades and new characters. I repeat, the PC version is all the versions in one. |
Actually, I'm quite glad that I'm wrong. It's not like I paid a considerable sum for DW4 or anything. I wish I'd known about this a month or so ago, though.
Rob
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