Lock On: Flaming Cliffs addon
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Boilerman




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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Apr 2005 02:04    Post subject: Lock On: Flaming Cliffs addon
It has a starforce protection that requires a serial number and then a loggon to Starforce's website for it to generate a key. Activation is limited to 5 times per reinstall or 40% of hardware changes. The protection is for the downloaded version that cost $35.00 per download at the Eagle Dynamic website http://lockon.ru/ The cd version is distributed only for the russian version of the addon. Since its a download and not on CD, has this type of protection been worked on before or is this something new for Starforce? Can't imagine paying for a addon for $35.00 when the its nothing more than a patch that should have been given for free.
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nerrd




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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Apr 2005 02:50    Post subject: Re: Lock On: Flaming Cliffs addon
Boilerman wrote:
Can't imagine paying for a addon for $35.00 when the its nothing more than a patch that should have been given for free.
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Agreed. I dont even touch LOMAC anymore, can't stand the fact that I have to tweak it way down to get decent fps. It's really a shame since it's a really good sim. However, I would like to see this addon craked.
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Boilerman




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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Apr 2005 03:10    Post subject:
Not too many starforce protections have been cracked. I hear they don't have a big distributer and an english download version is only available for the west but Naturalpoint, the trakir people will sell a english version on cd with the normal starforce cp at end of the month. I wonder which is harder to crack, a starforce cd protection or starforce serial number and keygen protection? They have some pretty cool screenshots and I hear the addon centers around the new flyable SU-25T with a advanced flight model. People who bought it say the SU-25T has the best flight model out of any sim to date. It still should have been free since the realease had all kinds of bugs and it required a high end rig just to get decent FPS.
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Oddmaker
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Apr 2005 03:33    Post subject:
Yup its new, Its called SFActive (StarForce Active) so when you run the game it connects to the internet and grabs a key or makes sure your key is invalid then it activates your game so you can play Smile


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sergyy




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Location: Originally from Barcelona
PostPosted: Sun, 17th Apr 2005 10:50    Post subject: Re: Lock On: Flaming Cliffs addon
Boilerman wrote:
It has a starforce protection that requires a serial number and then a loggon to Starforce's website for it to generate a key. Activation is limited to 5 times per reinstall or 40% of hardware changes. The protection is for the downloaded version that cost $35.00 per download at the Eagle Dynamic website http://lockon.ru/ The cd version is distributed only for the russian version of the addon. Since its a download and not on CD, has this type of protection been worked on before or is this something new for Starforce? Can't imagine paying for a addon for $35.00 when the its nothing more than a patch that should have been given for free.
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You d better get your story straight before requesting Flaming Cliffs, because parts of your post are completly false.

A few facts:
1) Activation number is limited to 15 and not 5. Each time 40% of hardware is change, an activation is used, so the game can be reinstall on the same computer as much as people want without using an activation.

2) Once bought, the game can be download from ED site as much as customers want (only activation count).

3) When all activations are used, people need to contact ED with their transaction numbers and they will be given a new serial for 15 new activations

4) the add on is 35$ because it is not a patch. There are fix for bugs in the addon indeed (also FPS are much better, no need to have a high end rig), but the main focus are ALL the new feature added in FC1.1 for the different planes PLUS the new SU25T model. Do you really think a company would release a simple patch and ask gamers to pay for it ? Rolling Eyes Laughing Like someone said before there is nothing in life as a free lunch. If you want or love something,...


Everybody has his own reason for lurking around the warez scene, but you sir are just a vulgar thief.
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FakeBitchKillah.inc




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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Apr 2005 12:05    Post subject:
wow wow wow !!!!

sounds like a hard copy protection !!!

time to kill the developers of starforce................


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Boilerman




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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Apr 2005 16:12    Post subject: Re: Lock On: Flaming Cliffs addon
sergyy wrote:
Boilerman wrote:
It has a starforce protection that requires a serial number and then a loggon to Starforce's website for it to generate a key. Activation is limited to 5 times per reinstall or 40% of hardware changes. The protection is for the downloaded version that cost $35.00 per download at the Eagle Dynamic website http://lockon.ru/ The cd version is distributed only for the russian version of the addon. Since its a download and not on CD, has this type of protection been worked on before or is this something new for Starforce? Can't imagine paying for a addon for $35.00 when the its nothing more than a patch that should have been given for free.
Evil or Very Mad



You d better get your story straight before requesting Flaming Cliffs, because parts of your post are completly false.

A few facts:
1) Activation number is limited to 15 and not 5. Each time 40% of hardware is change, an activation is used, so the game can be reinstall on the same computer as much as people want without using an activation.

2) Once bought, the game can be download from ED site as much as customers want (only activation count).

3) When all activations are used, people need to contact ED with their transaction numbers and they will be given a new serial for 15 new activations

4) the add on is 35$ because it is not a patch. There are fix for bugs in the addon indeed (also FPS are much better, no need to have a high end rig), but the main focus are ALL the new feature added in FC1.1 for the different planes PLUS the new SU25T model. Do you really think a company would release a simple patch and ask gamers to pay for it ? Rolling Eyes Laughing Like someone said before there is nothing in life as a free lunch. If you want or love something,...


Everybody has his own reason for lurking around the warez scene, but you sir are just a vulgar thief.


Wow, sound like the developer just walked in to check up on his game. I bet you were just waiting for someone to post about your new addon just so you could call them a vulgar thief. If you will notice, I was just giving some info about the addon that in my opinion should have been given for free because of the problems lock on always had. Did I say I was going to steal it, i don't even play the game anymore because of all the bugs and I'm sure as hell not going to spend $35.00 for an addon that fixes alot of those bugs. Asking for requests are not aloud here, read the rules. Thanks for setting me straight on the info, its good to know if the developers go bankrupt in 2 years, I'll never get to activate my game when the first 15 run out due to starforce asking for reactivation just by plugging in your joystick or someother minor non-sense. Don't try to sugar coat it, I went to the russian website and in the english forum, all kinds of people were having starforce related problems. The devs sure did screw the pooch when decided to install starforce as there cp.
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sergyy




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Location: Originally from Barcelona
PostPosted: Sun, 17th Apr 2005 17:03    Post subject: Re: Lock On: Flaming Cliffs addon
Boilerman wrote:


Wow, sound like the developer just walked in to check up on his game. I bet you were just waiting for someone to post about your new addon just so you could call them a vulgar thief. If you will notice, I was just giving some info about the addon that in my opinion should have been given for free because of the problems lock on always had. Did I say I was going to steal it, i don't even play the game anymore because of all the bugs and I'm sure as hell not going to spend $35.00 for an addon that fixes alot of those bugs. Asking for requests are not aloud here, read the rules. Thanks for setting me straight on the info, its good to know if the developers go bankrupt in 2 years, I'll never get to activate my game when the first 15 run out due to starforce asking for reactivation just by plugging in your joystick or someother minor non-sense. Don't try to sugar coat it, I went to the russian website and in the english forum, all kinds of people were having starforce related problems. The devs sure did screw the pooch when decided to install starforce as there cp.




you said Lock On has a lot of problems ?!
Are you aware that there is a patch 1.02 for LO ?!!! If you have LO1.02 installed on your comp, i challenge you to show me one bug in this build that is a show stopper and that should have required a free patch.
LO 1.02 IS perfectly playable and enjoyable on 95% rigs and there are no hardcore bugs in this build.

you also said you are not going to steal it, however you come here and you ask if the CP of FC has already been dealt with...

If you dont play the game anymore because of the *so called* bugs in LO1.02 why show any interest in the addon.

I already told you, even though it contains fix the addon is not a patch, it is an addon, which means new content has been added (but i am sure you already know that if you visit the different boards) : there is absolutly no need to have FC 1.1 to enjoy LO1.02. Only people that want the new features should get 1.1.

Why do you believe that in 2 years ED will go bankrupt ? why the pessimism ? Actually this negativity is something good for you, it gives you a false argument for obtaining cracks...
Dont worry in 2 years ED will still be alive with the sequel of Lock On released, and in 2 years you will probably playing another sim or another game.


The devs didnt screw anything when choosing SF. Currently starforce is the best copy protection for devs that want to protect their hardwork from greedy teens, unfortunately it causes some problems with some people. But in case you dont know there is a support board On ED site and on SF site. Nobody is left behind with their problems.
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Boilerman




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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Apr 2005 17:55    Post subject: Re: Lock On: Flaming Cliffs addon
sergyy wrote:
Boilerman wrote:


Wow, sound like the developer just walked in to check up on his game. I bet you were just waiting for someone to post about your new addon just so you could call them a vulgar thief. If you will notice, I was just giving some info about the addon that in my opinion should have been given for free because of the problems lock on always had. Did I say I was going to steal it, i don't even play the game anymore because of all the bugs and I'm sure as hell not going to spend $35.00 for an addon that fixes alot of those bugs. Asking for requests are not aloud here, read the rules. Thanks for setting me straight on the info, its good to know if the developers go bankrupt in 2 years, I'll never get to activate my game when the first 15 run out due to starforce asking for reactivation just by plugging in your joystick or someother minor non-sense. Don't try to sugar coat it, I went to the russian website and in the english forum, all kinds of people were having starforce related problems. The devs sure did screw the pooch when decided to install starforce as there cp.




you said Lock On has a lot of problems ?!
Are you aware that there is a patch 1.02 for LO ?!!! If you have LO1.02 installed on your comp, i challenge you to show me one bug in this build that is a show stopper and that should have required a free patch.
LO 1.02 IS perfectly playable and enjoyable on 95% rigs and there are no hardcore bugs in this build.

you also said you are not going to steal it, however you come here and you ask if the CP of FC has already been dealt with...

If you dont play the game anymore because of the *so called* bugs in LO1.02 why show any interest in the addon.

I already told you, even though it contains fix the addon is not a patch, it is an addon, which means new content has been added (but i am sure you already know that if you visit the different boards) : there is absolutly no need to have FC 1.1 to enjoy LO1.02. Only people that want the new features should get 1.1.

Why do you believe that in 2 years ED will go bankrupt ? why the pessimism ? Actually this negativity is something good for you, it gives you a false argument for obtaining cracks...
Dont worry in 2 years ED will still be alive with the sequel of Lock On released, and in 2 years you will probably playing another sim or another game.


The devs didnt screw anything when choosing SF. Currently starforce is the best copy protection for devs that want to protect their hardwork from greedy teens, unfortunately it causes some problems with some people. But in case you dont know there is a support board On ED site and on SF site. Nobody is left behind with their problems.


Sorry, I'm still not going to buy FC because IMHO it should of been given for free for all those that bought the buggy original sim v1.0 for $50.00 and yes I have tried v1.02 and still a bunch of bugs. You sound alot like this Stormin guy who floats around the different sim sites and act all high and mighty who use to work with ED. Why are you here to begin with, cuz you sound like you hate crackers? You're just another dev who released a crappy sim the first time around and want other people to pay for an addon that fixes alot of things that should have been fixed already. Sorry, I'm not going to give my money to people trying to fix their past mistakes.
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robertmor
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Apr 2005 19:22    Post subject:
torrent of this addon please


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wildwing
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PostPosted: Sun, 17th Apr 2005 19:33    Post subject:
robertmor wrote:
BAN for this post please


thanks


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sergyy




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Location: Originally from Barcelona
PostPosted: Mon, 18th Apr 2005 15:03    Post subject: Re: Lock On: Flaming Cliffs addon
Boilerman wrote:

Sorry, I'm still not going to buy FC because IMHO it should of been given for free for all those that bought the buggy original sim v1.0 for $50.00 and yes I have tried v1.02 and still a bunch of bugs. You sound alot like this Stormin guy who floats around the different sim sites and act all high and mighty who use to work with ED. Why are you here to begin with, cuz you sound like you hate crackers? You're just another dev who released a crappy sim the first time around and want other people to pay for an addon that fixes alot of things that should have been fixed already. Sorry, I'm not going to give my money to people trying to fix their past mistakes.


i am not part of the dev team and i am not stormin either.
I dont hate crackers, i hate people like you : greedy teenagers waiting that some food fall into their mouth fully opened. And if you think cracker groups have a better opinion of people like you, you are greatly mistaken.

I asked you to show me bugs in the 1.02 build that prevent you to enjoy the game and your answer is “still a bunch of bugs”. Are you kidding me ? this is not an acceptable answer, it just shows that you have absolutly no clue of what you are speaking about. I played LO 1.02 daily before FC was released and there was no show stopper bugs in this build. Just stop trying to find excuses.

Quote:
“Sorry, I'm not going to give my money to people trying to fix their past mistakes.”

I dont know what kind of weed you are smoking, but dood ! i want some that looks pretty mean !
FC is not a message from ED saying : “sorry guys, forgive us for the bugs in original release”. Most of the bugs were already corrected in 1.02 patch, FC is an improvment for those who want to push the simulation further more.



Also if you think that the release of version 1.1 is going to correct all the previous bugs without adding new one, once again you are greatly mistaken. I can already see the situation in 6 months when Lock On 1.2 will be released, you are going to post something like :
“Huh guys, has the CP of LO 1.2 already been dealt with ? Huh, just wanna know, you know. There was bunch of bugs in 1.1, no way i am going to pay for something that correct bugs for a buggy crack, huh. I heard 1.2 has the Ka50 in it, but i still think it should be free, i paid 50$ for LO when it was released” Hilarious !





My goal is not to make you buy FC. Honestly even if you wanted to buy FC, i doubt your mommy would let you use her credit card over teh internet. One situation or another you would still be waiting for a torrent.

But what pisses me off is your attitude : you are trying to make excuses in order to obtain a crack.
If you want a crack just say that you want a crack, end of the story. Dont try to put gloss on yourself, you are not a victim. You have as much arguments as an 8 year old boy, each time you use one : bugs, 5 activations limits, it is only a patch that should be given for free, etc... i debunked it.
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$en$i
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Apr 2005 14:55    Post subject:
Lock on is great, have no bugs (only a few drawbacks with AA on my 6600gt), and sergyy pwned u.
Get a way to earn money, go buy your games, then you can complain about your hypothetical bugs.

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EBMS




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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Apr 2005 16:47    Post subject:
damn starforce... beaches =[
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crazy8




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PostPosted: Sun, 1st May 2005 00:36    Post subject:
I cant make working image of this cool game...
I am used alcohol 120(RMPS,SUB,DPM) and starf*ck(there are no version of protection that has game).
it dont works man!
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Ispep
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st May 2005 00:50    Post subject:
What is the deal with this addon - what does it provide?


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