Gaming Ultrabook?
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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Feb 2014 15:35    Post subject: Gaming Ultrabook?
So I was looking for a nice ultrabook for my wife and from the design only the new Sony Vaio and some Lenovo are viable.

The Sony Vaio Flip 15 is available with the following config
i3-4005U (1.7GHz dual core haswell) or i5-4200U (1.6GHz dual core haswell with turbo boost up to 2.6GHz)
4GB RAM (this should be enough)
HD 4400 or GT-735M
128GB SSD or 512GB HDD with 8GB SSD

Now the prices vary a lot but I'd go with the i5, GT- 735M and the 512GB HDD with 8GB SSD.

As far as I can see the HDD + SSD combination should be quite fast, right? OK not as fast as the SSD but tbh the prices they want for bigger SSD is ridiculous and 128GB might not be enough for her :/

BTW will it make a big difference if I take the i3? Or are 1.7GHz just too slow?


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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Feb 2014 15:42    Post subject:
Don't expect a lot of gaming, but for daily usage should be OK.

I have Lenovo with i7-720(clocked at 1.6 and has turbo boost to 2.6) with AMD 5730 and all my games run on lowest settings imo Sad

I just ordered 8gigs of ram@1333Mhz and will order Seagate Hybrid Drive 1TB(its regular hdd with 8gb of ssd) in a near future to help with performance.


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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Feb 2014 16:15    Post subject:
laptop gaming Crying or Very sad well if you don't mind playing games on low settings and 30fps...

isn't it better just to wait until you get home and enjoy all games maxed out on a nice and comfy PC?
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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Feb 2014 16:34    Post subject:
8Gb SSD seems worthless, you can't even boot the system from it. I'd get the 128Gb ssd and add another drive later (if there's room for it, but in a 15" laptop that weights over 2kg there must be).

And from what I've seen the i3 is really slow.

Now the obvious question: Does the system have to be mobile? And if so, isn't 15" too big?


Edit: If the keyboard is important, I would avoid samsung, LG, Acer and HP. All the keyboards I tested from these brands suck. Dell and lenovo have some very decent ones, but mostly on corporate/pro models (lenovo T and X series are awesome, dell latitude is pretty good, XPS is ok). Not sure about sony Fit, I do know that the current pro model sucks though (the tiny light 13" one).
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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Feb 2014 17:24    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Feb 2014 17:32    Post subject:
It has a 512GB HDD with internal 8GB SSD for performance, it's just nand memory, so no, it's not a seperate HD or partition with just 8GB Smile

And the i3 in the ULV (ultra low voltage) segment is from a feature point of view almost the same as i5s and i7s. Actually after reading a bit I saw that the i5 and i7s turbos almost never kick in because of thermal throttling (or maybe it's because of power consumption limits?). http://bit.ly/LyHoUk

And because of the thermal throttling I'm actually thinking of ditching the GT 735M also. I mean on paper it is a much better graphics chip than the HD 4400 but if it is throttled down when it gets to hot, which benefit do I have over the 4400?!


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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Feb 2014 12:05    Post subject:
Operation cancelled, wifey says she doesn't need one now, as we already have two notebooks at home Sad

Got her an LG G2 instead, now at least she has a proper phone again Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Feb 2014 12:22    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Feb 2014 12:47    Post subject:
Actually I am glad, because after some more looking I found the Lenovo U430 Touch, which is not a convertible, but better in any aspect (except for screen brightness) than the Sony. And it is actually silent, fast and cheaper Surprised

@Inter: Well fuck, that thing is faster than my desktop pc xD


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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Feb 2014 18:35    Post subject:
garus wrote:
Ultrabook and gaming doesn't really go together. Not when 90% of them have only integrated intel graphics.

Invasor, I have a Samsung ultrabook and its keyboard is glorious to type on. http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/pc-peripherals/notebook-computers/ultra-portable/NP900X3C-A05UK


Dell XPS is so freaking ugly it's unbelievable (IMO IMOO)

I don't care about ugly, to be honest the design I like the most is the square black box from lenovo (T430, X230..) Laughing

About the keyboard, I tried the Samsung 9 (np900x3F or something) and really didn't like it, the keys don't have enough travel/depth. Also the touchpad was getting stuck when I pressed the left button Crying or Very sad but the weight of the thing is glorious.


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8Gb SSD seems worthless, you can't even boot the system from it. I'd get the 128Gb ssd and add another drive later (if there's room for it, but in a 15" laptop that weights over 2kg there must be).


Ultrabooks are sealed shut most of the time. Plus how do you want to put ANOTHER drive in a laptop anyway? They don't come with empty bays.


Many laptops have one sata bay and one msata slot, and the model he was looking at is a 15" so it most likely has it. Some have 2 msata slots, like the lenovo yoga.
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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Feb 2014 19:51    Post subject: Re: Gaming Ultrabook?
Dual core for gaming.



...or do we have quad core Ultrabooks atm?


ps. Dont forget that Ultrabooks don't have that good cooling performance so if your hardware is suitable for gaming be prepared for some hot gaming. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Feb 2014 09:58    Post subject:
There really aint gaming ultrabooks, closest what you can get is custom 13" Clevo W230ST laptop, it has full HD screen, you can put i7 to it and it has GTx 765M (XMG and many others sells these with their own logo). Its very good performing small laptop, you can get it with about 1000€ (includes SSD aswell).



Looks pretty sexy aswell Apparently it has some throttling issues, but still very nice small laptop (thinking to get one myself).
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Feb 2014 11:17    Post subject:
I'd never aim for highest graphic settings, so when I say gaming ultrabook I was not referring to those beasts you are posting Smile

@G2 order: Wow they were fast, it already arrived o_O


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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Feb 2014 19:41    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
custom 13" Clevo W230ST laptop, it has full HD screen, you can put i7 to it and it has GTx 765M (XMG and many others sells these with their own logo)

This is literally the laptop I got.
Got the schenker/xmg branded version from mysn.
http://www.mysn.eu/xmg-p303
I did my oculus rift global gamejam game with it and it performed fine.
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Feb 2014 22:58    Post subject:
Buying a "gaming" ultrabook with high end GPU and CPU is a waste of the ultrabook, because these two kill the battery life. Not only does the hardware tax the battery a lot, but also because it runs a lot higher, ventilation also takes more power, and it is noisier.
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Feb 2014 23:31    Post subject:
nope
nvidia gpu essentially shuts down when no 3d is used. (unless you set it for 'prefer high performance' in nvidia contrl panel, as you should when you game)
and the intel cpu stretches pretty far when power saving profile is used.
i get a bit over four hours from mine.
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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Feb 2014 01:17    Post subject:
i heard drivers are a bitch and it never works properly this shut down 3d thing
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