the cost of studying in america (usa,canada)
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bloodian




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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Feb 2014 00:10    Post subject: the cost of studying in america (usa,canada)
I`ve lived in Canada for a year and had a permanent resident card (lost it due to expiration Sad )

I work as a programmer and I'm about to finish my first degree here in Poland.

My dream is to finish my second degree either in USA or Canada (preferably Canada).
In a couple of years of course.

I've heard that second degree is cheaper than the first degree.

Is that true? How much does it cost in average to finish a second degree?
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Przepraszam
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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Feb 2014 00:15    Post subject:
lololol second degree, you mean Masters Degree? Masters is equivalent to Magister in Poland.

Public college will probably be cheaper around $20K-$40K because you would be international student.

Private college would probably set you about $100K. Probably add another $50K for being international student...

not worth it..plus education is shit..take it from somewhere who actually finished his degree last year in electrical engineering ...


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bloodian




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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Feb 2014 00:26    Post subject:
yeah, I meant masters Smile Lost in translation i guess.

so... yeah.. fuck my dreams. I can build a house for that much money or buy an audi and fuck bitches.

Everytime I remind myself that education in USA costs ~50 000$ I realize how much i love our little Poland. Not only did I not spend a dime but also had a scholarship of 500-600 zl(150-200$) every month for 3 years.

Well, I'm just to lazy to finish masters here in Poland and thought of a way to find proper motivation. Spending thousands of dollars isn't it Smile I guess I can still find work in Canada if i'm good enough in future. I'm desperate to live there for like 2-3 years and see some of that beautiful country.
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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Feb 2014 00:35    Post subject:
bloodian wrote:
yeah, I meant masters Smile Lost in translation i guess.

so... yeah.. fuck my dreams. I can build a house for that much money or buy an audi and fuck bitches.

Everytime I remind myself that education in USA costs ~50 000$ I realize how much i love our little Poland. Not only did I not spend a dime but also had a scholarship of 500-600 zl(150-200$) every month for 3 years.

Well, I'm just to lazy to finish masters here in Poland and thought of a way to find proper motivation. Spending thousands of dollars isn't it Smile I guess I can still find work in Canada if i'm good enough in future. I'm desperate to live there for like 2-3 years and see some of that beautiful country.


this is so going to end up in someone's signature lol.
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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Feb 2014 00:39    Post subject:
The cost of education in the states is insane. It's supposed to get you deep into debt so you spend the rest of your life like a rat in a maze trying to pay it back. It's only a viable option if you've got rich parents, otherwise I've seen many shoot themselves in the leg this way.

i'd rather be fucking homeless tbh.
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Feb 2014 00:43    Post subject:
It's modern slavery.
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Przepraszam
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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Feb 2014 01:04    Post subject:
My 4.5yr college degree costed me about $120K. Luckily for some reason I got really high financial aid so I ended up only with ~$30K in students loans which is nothing...some of my friends have on average $80K in loans...

I will probably get masters degree within next 5 years anyway, heh. but i will be a lot smarter in terms of financial stuff Razz


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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Feb 2014 01:20    Post subject:
It opens doors in most countries tho...


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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Feb 2014 01:21    Post subject:
this one says $37K with internships expected to pay most of it
http://web.cs.toronto.edu/program/prospective_gradwhy/mscac.htm

this is much cheaper (looks like maybe ~$6K a year for tuition)
https://uwaterloo.ca/graduate-studies/awards-funding/international-funding

or if Ontario isn't your thing tuition isn't that much in BC either (~$8K a year for tuition)
https://www.grad.ubc.ca/prospective-students/graduate-degree-programs/master-of-science-computer-science#group-tuition

all are good schools (no such thing as public/private schools in Canada as they are all public), and two of those programs have scholarships that pay the domestic/international tuition difference (I paid about $6K a year for tuition for my MSc in Epidemiology as domestic student)


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RatKing




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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Feb 2014 12:00    Post subject:
Thinking about the cost of studying in other countries is staggering. It's easy to take free education for granted.


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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Feb 2014 19:48    Post subject:
Why cant you just take your master in a country where education is free?
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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Feb 2014 19:49    Post subject:
I think foreigners still pay, but small amounts like 5-10k for the whole degree..


Lutzifer wrote:
and yes, mine is only average
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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Feb 2014 20:37    Post subject:
Atropa wrote:
Why cant you just take your master in a country where education is free?


Most likely because they aren't an EU citizen or member of said country.

Edit: Took the 'you' as in general. Anywho, free is like free healthcare... Still costs money Smile


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PostPosted: Wed, 5th Feb 2014 23:30    Post subject:
MORPHINEUS wrote:
It opens doors in most countries tho...


It just doenst pay outside the US. A bachelor IT dude earns 1500 after taxes in belgium, a master 2000. That's 500 more per month. And nobody will give a fuck whether you have a local IT degree or some fancy Stanford degree. If you are good, you are good, if you are bad, you are bad. I mean, it's not USA, so no fancy pancy title flashing.

At a cost of 100k, it takes 20 years to earn back the investment. Knowing that you can study the same master for 500 euros in belgium, or ~1500 euros in Holland, and comparable numbers in France or Italy or Sweden or wherever, you would be stupid to go to the US to earn a master. Just earn it in europe, plenty of good schools around.

Even as non EU, you would pay max 8000 per year...
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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Feb 2014 00:15    Post subject:
It was more about being valid in most countries tho (Without rigorous research of validity). A Belgian one is even a fucking hassle in Sweden while a US one seems to be A-OK Sad (Doesn't matter that we actually spend more years and time in school than they do )

But then again they glorify the US over here for some reason.

Jobs it usually boils down to actual qualification so I agree on that.

Had one of those 'masters IT jobs' without any degree. But yeh those don't come often in one's path and was very rare to start with that salary


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Atropa




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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Feb 2014 08:59    Post subject:
MORPHINEUS wrote:
Atropa wrote:
Why cant you just take your master in a country where education is free?


Most likely because they aren't an EU citizen or member of said country.

Edit: Took the 'you' as in general. Anywho, free is like free healthcare... Still costs money Smile


I think erasmus has a program for non-eu citizens as well. I guess you just have to apply?
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MAD_MAX333
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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Feb 2014 17:11    Post subject:
In canada your education is basically 70 percent subsidized. I pay abouttttttt 1300 per 2 units of university... so about 700 per course plus add maybe 50-150 for books. not too bad man.
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bloodian




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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Feb 2014 20:39    Post subject:
thanks guys Smile I guess it's not THAT bad. I mean there are options.
I guess I'm too lazy now to finish my master's anyway. Got a cozy job for now, and doing stuff for uni seems like such a waste of time... For example this semester i've done a looot of UML diagrams (hours and hours of work) which were just glanced upon by the prof and went straight to thrash. You sometimes do pointless shit at work too, but the difference is you get paid Wink
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