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 Posted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 11:13 Post subject: [OTHER] Who is going to dominate e3 |
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Who is going to dominate or have the biggest impact this E3?
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 11:14 Post subject: |
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I am waiting for the PSP EU release date and to see which launch games there will be for the xbo 360. If PES5 is one of them, then I am going to buy it on EU launch date.
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 12:00 Post subject: |
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MS will cause the biggest stir but i think a lot of big companies will attract attention too.
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 12:43 Post subject: |
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i m sure sony will get the most attention cuz everyone is excited if the superspecs of the ps3 are really true, also sony has contracts with more game developers than microsoft, so they could show off some really great games.
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 13:00 Post subject: |
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But i don't think it's been annouced that sony will even mention the PS3 at E3 this year. i mean yes they probably will but with the xbox luanch a matter of months away i just don't see sony stealing the attention.
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 14:14 Post subject: |
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| Sublime wrote: | | But i don't think it's been annouced that sony will even mention the PS3 at E3 this year. i mean yes they probably will but with the xbox luanch a matter of months away i just don't see sony stealing the attention. |
actually sony planned to unveal the ps3 even before the E3 at a specific date, but they called that off due to some reasons,
they did say though that the console would be unvealed at this year's
E3 with a very high probability.
well games-wise the 2004 one was the best by far, now sure this 2005 one
will get more attention cuz of the next gen consoles as it was back in 2000
when this generation was shown off.
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 15:57 Post subject: |
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The only reason Sony called off the PS3 at the E3 event is because their graphics card wast ready. If you remember correctly, the XBox came out after the PS2. In this case, its safe to say the PS3 will come out after the XBox. It might dominate the XBox 360, you never know. Microsoft waited for the PS2 to be developed, than went ahead with its XBox for building it on power.
Like I was saying in the other thread, you can expect a Tech Demo from Sony at E3. The only way either one will be dominate is if they unveil the hardware specs and give a sample of what their console can do. I seriouslly doubt either one is ready to give out launch title announcements, and if they did... I think that'd play a major role in dominance.
Well, heres the thing. You can only go so far in graphics now a days. Sony already announced a 4ghz cell. I mean, you know how powerfull that is? They announced it publicly so it isnt a rumor. The graphics bit is however except for the fact they spent 400 million on it. 400 million on research and development is alot.
I see this going two ways. Sony waits for XBox 360 to dominate E3 and shows it off later, or they both show their consoles at E3. Its very hard to tell now and its so close. Also, for the person who said XBox 360 is only months away from a launch, well theres no date or estiminated time for a release of either console. If I remember, Sony said that they were going to start producing their hardware for the PS3 (mainly the graphics) at the end of 2005. Now that doesnt exactly mean you can expect a release date than. Same goes for XBox 360.
I expect the prices for both consoles to reach $500 for what hardware is being used. If you thought the PSP was expensive... well take a look at the PS3/XBox 360 when it comes out. I seriouslly doubt they system value would start off at $300, because both companies would lose money. Kinda like what happened to XBox awhile back. Their hardware was getting too expensive and they started to lower the price of their XBox, so they were losing money on each unit. Pretty much why they didnt want NVidia on their side anymore. I wouldnt expect the systems to sell out when they first come out either because of the prices.
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 17:23 Post subject: |
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I personally beleive Nintendo will be the big hit this year. Instead of simply releasing a new console with better graphics like the other companies are doing, they are releasing a new console with better graphics AND cool new features, then of course you have the DS to spice things up.
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 17:49 Post subject: |
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Yea, but what about the touch screen rumor for the Nintendo Rev? If that rumor holds true, theres going to be a fair ammount of people who wont like it. As long as the console comes with a great ammount of games.
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 17:56 Post subject: |
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People don't like change, but a touchscreen/pad is the only next logical step for gaming control.
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 18:03 Post subject: |
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If done well then Touch screen is good to a certain extent but it doesnt give any touch feedback to the user in the sense that you cant easily tell how much in is the button pressed.
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 20:18 Post subject: |
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| xAiTheHitman wrote: | | Yea, but what about the touch screen rumor for the Nintendo Rev? If that rumor holds true, theres going to be a fair ammount of people who wont like it. |
God that will suck big time if it turns out to be true :/
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 20:29 Post subject: |
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The main complaint with the touchscreen/pad idea is that people don't want to learn how to use, but thats stupid because its like saying learning how to type and use the mouse was stupid.
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 21:53 Post subject: |
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| Mchart wrote: | | The main complaint with the touchscreen/pad idea is that people don't want to learn how to use, but thats stupid because its like saying learning how to type and use the mouse was stupid. |
Well hey, thats your opinion. I mean I just dont see how all these people dont like the touchscreen pad because they dont want to learn it. I mean was it such a bad transition going from graphics like SNES to PS1? Thats like saying at the time alot of the old school gamers didnt like the new graphics and would prefer to stay back to old style because they were afraid for their fav gaming series. Not everyone is going to like something.
I mean a touch screen pad isnt hard to use... its not like saying remap 'a' key to punch and 'p' key to jump while using your mouse. I dunno about you, but that would suck. I think when it comes to touch screens... gamers should have options. They shouldnt be limited to one control method. All I'm saying is maybe they should give the gamer a choice with the new console. I mean saying that all these people dont want to learn a touchpad is rediculous because Nintendo has a huge fanbase.
My opinion is they should have two controllers. How fun would a touchpad be with a game like Zelda or Star Fox? If their going to do that, why not actually put someone inside a video game. Yea, I know thats probably thousands of years off.
I'd hate to touch a screen all day just to play a game. I'd probably get so mad i'd smash the hell out of it in 2 shots.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2005 00:06 Post subject: |
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what i dont like about the ds touchpad is that its actually a game screen,
see if it was like a separate part with no screen on it it d be ok, but you know a touchscreen gets scratched like hell if used for a longer time, also it gets dirty if ppl touch it often. i sure as hell dont wanna have to replace the screen every week or so, and also the graphics on the ds are pretty cheap, mario 64 isnt up to the n64 version while psp almost manages ps2 graphics.
another bad example is warioware touched, that game looks absolutely the same as the gba version, the funny thing is that theyre actually using both screens together as a single gameplay screen, whats up with that?
its like after they released the ds they said "oh wait this dual screen thing is crap, lets just go the psp way and use em both as a single big sreen".
also the games themselves are pretty uninteresting on the ds for now.
well i m interested in how katamari damaxy will turn out, but so far the psp is way better.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2005 01:03 Post subject: |
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i think the touch screen on the Ds is great, so much so i sold my PSP, as i wasn't using it as much - maybe something to do with it not being as fun or seen it all before on PS2. i also hear it isn't selling too well in USA and the delayed release in Europe till possibly Autum will do Sony no favours what with Xbox360 release as well.......mmmm PSP with ps2 graphics or xbox360 with next gen graphics. Think Sony has totally fluffed up on the way they have handled things with the PSP , it'll still do well but could of been so much more.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2005 02:31 Post subject: |
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I was about to post the same thing Pallebrun. Since when does a handheld compete with a console? The question is which to get... the XBox 360 or the PS3?
Well since the fanboys of "graphics" are here... might as well go with the new 4ghz cell and the 400 mill invested into graphics. I mean lets be honest, there is nothing in development now beyond that.
Yea, the touch pad is great in your opinion... but its useless if the handheld system doesnt have the games to go along with it. The DS doesnt have many 3D games and why would you put Mario 64 on there? It doesnt even come close to looking as good as the N64 version. I'm not sure many people want to buy a downgraded Mario 64. In my opinion, I think Nintendo would be better off without the touchpad, or atleast if they gave ya a choice to use/not to use it. And what about writing messages on the DS? Hell, if I wanna do that I'll use a fuckin' cell phone.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2005 02:40 Post subject: |
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The PSP does indeed compete with a console - the PS2. The PSP is priced like a console system, and has games which are almost exactly the same as PS2 games.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2005 02:41 Post subject: |
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| xAiTheHitman wrote: | I was about to post the same thing Pallebrun. Since when does a handheld compete with a console? The question is which to get... the XBox 360 or the PS3?
Well since the fanboys of "graphics" are here... might as well go with the new 4ghz cell and the 400 mill invested into graphics. I mean lets be honest, there is nothing in development now beyond that.
Yea, the touch pad is great in your opinion... but its useless if the handheld system doesnt have the games to go along with it. The DS doesnt have many 3D games and why would you put Mario 64 on there? It doesnt even come close to looking as good as the N64 version. I'm not sure many people want to buy a downgraded Mario 64. In my opinion, I think Nintendo would be better off without the touchpad, or atleast if they gave ya a choice to use/not to use it. And what about writing messages on the DS? Hell, if I wanna do that I'll use a fuckin' cell phone. |
You obviously have not played SM64 DS then, because the SM64 DS looks a tad better then the N64 version. Not to mention the fact that SM64 DS has more levels and all the mini-games. And do not argue with me on this, even though the DS is not capable of any sort of texture filtering SM64 DS does not have any pixelated looking textures anywhere, and looks better because of the use of higher polygon models.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2005 05:03 Post subject: |
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| Mchart wrote: | | The PSP does indeed compete with a console - the PS2 |
No it's not.
If I want a handheld system I sure as hell wont buy the PS2..............
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2005 05:19 Post subject: |
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*sigh* You completly fail to grasp what Im saying.
The PSP costs $250, the PS2 costs what, $100? All the PSP games except a small majority are direct ports, and cost the same as a console game. Hence why the PSP and PS2 are competeing. I sure as hell would rather buy the PSP then the PS2, when i'm getting almost the same exact games and its within the same price range as the PS2, but portable. Basically - If you go out and are looking to buy the PS2 I would bet almost 95% that person would also be comparing it to the PSP, because there is nothing different besides the fact that the PSP is portable.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2005 05:39 Post subject: |
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No I dont fail to grasp, it's you that fail to realise how we humans work (or atleast most of us).
We buy what we need and want.
If you want a home console-system why on earth would you buy a PSP?? It has a way smaller game library, a tiny screen, not so great controls compared to the gamepad etc etc.
The ps2 (or the xbox) has a HUUUUGE game library with a shitload of top titles and you get a sweet gamepad together with your huge tv.
Your reasoning just doesn't make any sense................
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2005 06:04 Post subject: |
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Plus you can play DVD's and music CD's on the Xbox and PS2.
You're right pallebrun.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2005 06:11 Post subject: |
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1.) Because the PSP is just as good/better then the PS2
2.) Have you even bothered to look at the PSP's game library?
3.) You can play movies and music on the PSP to.
4.) They are about the same price
If you didn't own a PS2, and then decided you want to go out and buy it. Then were confronted with the PSP, I don't think there is any question in the fact that you would rather purchase the PSP. The PSP is not a true console, but because of the fact that it is the same/better then the PS2, even game wise, and its about the same price, well do the math.
Its like if the nintendo DS came out only a few years after the N64 came out, and N64 was still selling as a normal console. I think *most* people would choose DS/PSP because of the fact that graphically/game wise its the same as its console counterpart, for basically the same price, yet its portable.
You also have to remember that most people buying a game system dont keep track of whats what like most people on this forum do. So all they see is -
#A big console which you must plug into the TV, plays the various PS2 games
#A portable unit which in all said and done plays games which are the same/similar to its console counterpart (notice how I say console counterpart, because it in a real sense it is), and is the same price.
Not to mention there is the "Urban Cool Yo Dawg Hype Factor" (For lack of a better word), and most people like that I can guarentee that they would rather have the PSP. Then once again you look at the price differences, and there isnt much difference hardware or software wise.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2005 06:20 Post subject: |
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I would like to see the GBA2, even tho i love nintendo i think its a kick in the balls for those who already have purchased a DS.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2005 06:22 Post subject: |
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| Flark wrote: | | I would like to see the GBA2, even tho i love nintendo i think its a kick in the balls for those who already have purchased a DS. |
That was a rumor started by IGN which was recently debunked by Nintendo.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2005 07:41 Post subject: |
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Yea by IGN who we know are psp fan boys. Still we'll see at E3. one thing i was disappointed about was diddy kong pilot on the GBA a few years ago. what the hell happened to it? it was looking so damn cool with it's own tilt and turn adapter. i hope we're gonna see it on the ds 
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2005 08:25 Post subject: |
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I said microsoft just becuase everyone knows they are showing something but if sony has the ps3 there and running they will steal the show, but noone knows what nintendo has up there sleaves
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