How do you know that the pic in the background isn't the shopped one?
edit: Sabin has a point
I CAN TELL FROM SOME OF THE PIXELS AND FROM SEEING QUITE A FEW SHOPS IN MY TIME
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
How do you know that the pic in the background isn't the shopped one?
edit: Sabin has a point
I CAN TELL FROM SOME OF THE PIXELS AND FROM SEEING QUITE A FEW SHOPS IN MY TIME
Spoiler:
And how do you know that the guy in the second pic is not trying to imitate his hero Gabe forcing the girls to maintain the same expression as the original pic?
I must say, thumbs up to Valve for being able to keep a lid on any Episode 3 related, not even Wikileaks had anything on the subject.
I'm wondering what a professional PR worker would say about the joking attitude of Valve when it comes to HL3. Any person with half a brain will know that there is certainly a huge demand for the product.
"I got into hacking by being infected myself," Gembe says today. "It was a program that pretended to be a Warcraft III key generator and I was stupid enough to run it. It was an sdbot, a popular general purpose malware at the time."
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"While I have a €2000 Steam account nowadays, at the time I couldn't afford to buy games," he explains.
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"This server had a publically writable web root where I could upload ASP scripts and execute them via the web server. Valve didn't firewall this server from its internal network."
Gembe had found an unguarded tunnel into the network on his first attempt.
"The Valve PDC had an username "build" with a blank password," he explains. "This allowed me to dump the hashed passwords for the system. At the time the Eidgenössische Technische Hochschule Zürich offered an online cracker for hashes, so I was able to crack the passwords in no time."
"Once I had done that... Well, basically I had the keys to the kingdom."
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"The game didn't run on my computer. I made some code changes to get it to run in a basic form without shaders or anything, but it wasn't fun. Also, I only had the main development trunk of the game. They had so many development branches that I couldn't even begin to check them all out."
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"I was very naïve back then," he says. "It was and still is my dream to work for a game development company, so I just asked. I hoped that they could forgive what I had done, mostly because it wasn't intentional."
Good luck convincing a game company to trust you On the other hand, you can probably work on data security
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He recalls the phone interview being conducted by Alfred Reynolds, developer on Counter-Strike and Steam, and Portal writer Erik Wolpaw, but says he could be wrong. (In fact, Wolpaw says he had yet to join the company at this point.)
"At first they wanted to know how I hacked into the network. I told them in full detail. Then they asked me about my experience and skills. I still remember they were surprised that I spoke fluent English without much of an accent."
The trio talked for 40 minutes. Any sense of guilt dissipated for Gembe in the presence of his heroes. But that was nothing compared to the adrenaline rush he felt when he received an invitation to a second interview. This one would be face-to-face at Valve's headquarters in Seattle, on American soil.
[quote]What of the man he stole a game from? What would Axel Gembe say to Gabe Newell today?
"I would say this: I am so very sorry for what I did to you. I never intended to cause you harm. If I could undo it, I would. It still makes me sad thinking about it. I would have loved to just stay and watch you do your thing, but in the end I screwed it up.
"You are my favorite developer, and I will always buy your games."[/quote]
That's great, now how about leaking Ep3 pl0x
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
Did you know Postal 3 began development with the leaked Source code?
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[+Ago]: damn cops took all my stuff
[+Ago]: except hl1 goldsrc.... i still have that somewhere
[&ScarT^]: Including the engine src?
[&ScarT^]: I'm gonna go ahead and take that as a no
[+Ago]: well, yes Wink
[&ScarT^]: The HL1 Goldsrc can be found on Valve's ftp
[+Ago]: full cs 1.5 without steam
[+Ago]: i once hacked a steam server shortly after the leak, only to find a warez ftp server on there and the goldsrc
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[&Junk]: so i heard rumors that you made some changes to hl2 when valve wasnt looking
[&Junk]: is that true?
[+Ago]: yes
[~Essel]: Never heard that before.
[&Junk]: what did you do?
[+Ago]: i fixed some dx bug i had with my geforce2
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[+Ago]: pawnstick: there were so many builds i didn't have time to check em
[+Ago]: they had > 100 branches
[+Ago]: ScarT^: yes, the one that was their main trunk
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[+Ago]: what i always though was funny was that alfred always knew they had a hacker in the network
[+Ago]: he cleaned my stuff off of a few linux boxes
[&ScarT^]: lol
[+Ago]: i always had other ones at my disposal though
[+Ago]: and that damn sourcesafe
[~Essel]: Lol
[+Ago]: thats like the worst version control ever
[+Ago]: and they speed really suxx
[~Essel]: You coded shit.
[&Junk]: $250,000,000 ??
[+Ago]: i had to code my own sourcesafe client to locally check the md5sums to determine which files to update and tranfer them over a socket
[&Junk]: how did they come up wtih that number
[+Ago]: exagregated
[&ScarT^]: Indeed it is
[+Ago]: maybe lost revenues on engine licensing ?
[+Ago]: because other peoples stole their source Wink
[&Blake]: lol
[+Ago]: i remember talking to the rws guys
[&ScarT^]: Well nobody used it ;D
[+Ago]: the postal guys
[&ScarT^]: lol?
[+Ago]: they had the hl2 source way before ti was on the internet
[&ScarT^]: They actually used the leaked source?
[&ScarT^]: Ah
[+Ago]: well, they learnt a bit from it
[+pawnstick]: that's what postal 3 is built on, the more you know!
[+Ago]: those guys are really cool
[~Essel]: I wonder if the Bloodlines guys checked it out.
[+Ago]: they were like "no way you have hl2" and then i threw together a 60 mb version of kleiners lab and they were stunned Wink
[+Ago]: it had much stuff missing though
[~Essel]: Lol
[+Ago]: they still wanted me to work for them in their uk offices
[&Junk]: haha rws
[+Ago]: but i dunny if i even could travel there without the cia busting my ass
[&Junk]: i used to hang out in their channel
[quote][+Ago]: pawnstick: last time they left me a msg on their ftp saying "Go away Jackass!" Wink
[+pawnstick]: lol
[&Blake]: lol
[+pawnstick]: makedirhier
[+Ago]: one of my hidden folders was called "hl2roxx" Smile
[+Ago]: and another one "hi_alfred"[/quote]
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
During the investigation police found a different version of the source code on Gembes computer than the one that appeared on the internet as well as the Half-Life gold source, Steam source code, TF2 / HL2 data files and a database of all Steam subscribers with their credit card numbers.
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After this Valve shut down their network for a security audit and shipped some compromised PCs to the FBI. This process took some time, but Valve was back soon. Gembe didn't lose his interest in Valve after this and set out to compromise their network again. He achieved this five times despite heightened security.
In the first instance he found a MySQL server running on Windows with an empty root password and used the MySQL dump capability to dump table contents into a script file in the administrators startup folder, granting him all access the next time he logged in. This was quickly discovered and closed by Valve.
In the second instance, he developed an exploit for the Serv-U FTP Server in use by Valve and notified them about the risk in an email exchange. Valve didn't close the vulnerability until Gembe demonstrated it several weeks later.
In the third instance, Gembe developed an exploit for the then unpatched LSASS vulnerability that was later exploited by the Sasser worm and notified Valve about it. Again it took a demonstration on a Steam server for Valve to close the hole.
The fourth instance was after the first LSASS exploit had gone public and Gembe found another vulnerable system, which already had a FTP server from a warez group installed. On this system Gembe found lots of steam data, a database of all Steam subscribers with their credit card numbers and a newer copy of the Half-Life gold source. He also discovered a copy of PuTTY which he replaced with a password transmitting version he developed. After notifying Valve about the hole, they fixed it very quickly.
In the fifth instance, Valve employees used the compromised PuTTY client to login to another Linux system where the Steam friends database was hosted. Gembe took a quick look around on the system and nearly intruded deeper into their inner network from there. Shortly after this, Gembe was arrested.
It's looong, 25 pages, but it's extremely interesting if you want to learn more about HL2's troubled development, the ambitions Valve had, how the kept lying about the release date, how they discovered they had a hacker in their network, etc.
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"He had the typical hacker mentality," Newell says. "He thinks, 'If I can get away with it, you deserve it!'"
"He's really a pretty evil guy," Newell says. "He built up these distributive productivity tools for hackers so you can send off 100,000 machines to look for unprotected IP addresses."
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
Newell says. "He thinks, 'If I can get away with it, you deserve it!'"
If you can't stand the hackers, get out of the Internet. The guy tells you you have a security hole and you still take your sweet ass time to patch it? Like 5 times? Sounds like you deserved it to me.
Newell says. "He thinks, 'If I can get away with it, you deserve it!'"
If you can't stand the hackers, get out of the Internet. The guy tells you you have a security hole and you still take your sweet ass time to patch it? Like 5 times? Sounds like you deserved it to me.
There are different versions of the story as you can see.
Valve's version (where Gabe was literally pulling cords out of the sockets to shut down all internet activity as soon as possible when he found out about the intruder), Axel's version (where he says he finds it funny that Valve had found out for a while there was somebody inside their systems and they tried to clean their boxes but he doesn't say anything about repeatedly informing them), and the one that was posted on "Grigori's" forum that describes how Axel was notifying them about their vulnerabilities all the time ("Father Grigori's" forum was a forum for projects aiming to recreate and fix the original leaked game either in the retail Source SDK, or by directly editing the leaked 2003 source code).
I don't know who wrote that in Grigori's forum and how they know all that, but by googling it doesn't seem that it is the work of a journalist that was copied there, etc. So who knows what parts of this version are the truth and what parts are fiction.. especially when it was posted on a "pro leak" forum.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
Newell says. "He thinks, 'If I can get away with it, you deserve it!'"
If you can't stand the hackers, get out of the Internet. The guy tells you you have a security hole and you still take your sweet ass time to patch it? Like 5 times? Sounds like you deserved it to me.
it's not always easy to fix an exploit, and as long as it's not known, it's not a priority (time is money), valve, like any other company, need to focus its workforce for the best efficiency
it's not always easy to fix an exploit, and as long as it's not known, it's not a priority (time is money), valve, like any other company, need to focus its workforce for the best efficiency
At least sever the ties to the outside world while you plug the leak FFS.
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Gabe was literally pulling cords out of the sockets to shut down all internet activity as soon as possible
Probably why it took so long. Must have taken him ages to waddle around the whole office.
No, it's literally nothing. All he says is that eventually there will be another HL game. Who would have thought?!
Instead let's remember a real piece of news, from 2008:
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GK: Episode 3, what do we know about it? What can you tell us?
Gabe: From our point of view there's enough new-ness in there that we sorta want to spring it on people and say here is a bunch of things you've never seen before. And have multiple of those.
GK: And that is graphically or gameplay or?
Gabe: There is stuff visually that hasn't been in games before, certainly a bunch of game elements on the border of portal that hasn't been done before.
GK: So even better than the portal gun?
Gabe: Oh yeah.
GK: New game-play para-dimes
GN: Uh-huh.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
Well, it's good news regardless. Stuff changes, and i'm sure they found out they had a bigger project at hand than anticipated in 2008. After all this time i'm expecting a full game rather than a awesome new episode with amazing gfx and previously unseen gameplay elements. I just hope if it's a new game to make the continuation properly as it is quite some years since episode 2.
HL2 + ep1 + ep2 recap set to the "Exile Vilify" song written for Portal 2 by The National:
BEST.LOOKING.GAMES.EVERRR
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
I think they'll cancel Episode 3's development when Gabe dies out of extreme obesity (which happens to be next year) and we'll never witness this game's existence in real life.
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On the other hand, you can probably work on data security 
