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extra partition... =/ that sucks... I`m a lazy bastard and making an extra partition just for w7... nope. i`ll stay with xp for now...
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Leftos
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Aug 2009 11:17 Post subject: |
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Or, you could install Windows 7 and use a VM for all your XP-only needs.
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Karmeck
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Aug 2009 11:40 Post subject: |
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But windows 7 have "xp mode", google it
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vna
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Aug 2009 13:56 Post subject: |
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| Karmeck wrote: | | But windows 7 have "xp mode", google it |
But not everybody have a virtualization capable processor.
BTW, XP mode=XP SP3 image file + Microsoft Virtual PC. It's not even pre-installed because of several reasons.
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Aug 2009 13:59 Post subject: |
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Exactly. Also VMWare is faster than VPC even with the CPU assisted virtualization, but differences are very small in these occasions. 
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Aug 2009 16:29 Post subject: |
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so does that orbit activator actually work? Is it a bios emulator? A crack?
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Karmeck
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Aug 2009 17:24 Post subject: |
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No, unless we're talking DOS games, and even then, DOSBox is faster.
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Aug 2009 18:05 Post subject: |
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wouldn't it be possible to change the key when this happens?
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Aug 2009 18:39 Post subject: |
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Karmeck - for basic gaming that doesn't rely too heavily on direct 3d you can do that in vmware on pc. it's pretty basic so don't expect too much.
the unity feature is like the xp mode in vpc. where you run vmware app outside of vmware window. it will appear like a regular app running in the host os environment. except it's really, really laggy and slow.
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Frant
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Aug 2009 18:55 Post subject: |
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Gaming in VM's won't satisfy anyone until they've virtualised the GPU as well unless we're talking about old classics that doesn't require powerful 3D capabilities. And for obvious reasons 3D gaming isn't a priority for VPC or VMWare, they're 99% aimed at desk-work (legacy apps, compatibility checks, virtual apps etc.).
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Aug 2009 19:02 Post subject: |
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They should do quite the opposite, actually. What they currently do is emulate a really crappy graphics card; obviously that's not helping. Actually, what they need to do is find a way to pass the GPU calls as transparent as possible, to the host machine's GPU. But this opens up a lot of problems, so I assume that's why it hasn't been implemented yet.
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Aug 2009 23:16 Post subject: |
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Ok, something freaky is going on with this OS. I've installed 7 yesterday, used orbit's loader thingy and it went swell for while. Until suddenly it just freezes on the black Windows Loading screen. That animation keeps running but the HDD LED stops flashing and nothing happens. So after a reset and running this repair wizard I manage to restore and load windows again, but then it happens again after another restart. It seems kind of random...
Anyone have any ideas?
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tere911
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Aug 2009 00:27 Post subject: |
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sorry..
edit: i have a problem with cookies probably.. (i think) anywhere i log in etc this forum, or some other forum or site, i have to log in each time, windows dont remember my username and pass... any ideas?
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Aug 2009 05:40 Post subject: |
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tere911, we established that on the previous page.
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Aug 2009 22:17 Post subject: |
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Several of my Nic/Wireless cards just dont work with Windows 7. After much google searching, it appears my FA310TX Netgear Nic card is not supported in Windows 7 (only XP). I also cant get my US Robotics 54G wifi card to work in it.
I dont know. It seems like the same old story. New OS, your old parts wont work no more. Ill stick with XP until I become rich to update everything else.
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vna
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Aug 2009 13:15 Post subject: |
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| todd72173 wrote: | Several of my Nic/Wireless cards just dont work with Windows 7. After much google searching, it appears my FA310TX Netgear Nic card is not supported in Windows 7 (only XP). I also cant get my US Robotics 54G wifi card to work in it.
I dont know. It seems like the same old story. New OS, your old parts wont work no more. Ill stick with XP until I become rich to update everything else. |
Well, for the parts you mentioned the latest driver is from 2003 (pre XP SP2).
But seriously, these network parts are the cheapest in any PC, you can get twice as fast versions of them for ~$15 + ~$25 (gigabit lan, 108Mbps wifi).
I've got a ~5 year old Realtek card that works with windows 7 without installing any drivers for it.
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Aug 2009 14:30 Post subject: |
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I was wondering, I have an old PC (Pentium 4 2.4ghz, 1gig ram, 7600gt) at home and I would like to install windows 7 instead of XP. The problem is that the motherboard drivers (Asus p4s8x) are available for XP only and not even vista. What can be done? Can vista handle XP drivers?
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Aug 2009 14:52 Post subject: |
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Did you guys get passed the activating process?
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Aug 2009 15:17 Post subject: |
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Realtek RTL8168B/8111B Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20)
^^ my onboard one works flawless with windows 7, i have a netgear NIC on my other networked machine to the router and that works as well.
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vna
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Aug 2009 16:03 Post subject: |
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| KGen wrote: | | I was wondering, I have an old PC (Pentium 4 2.4ghz, 1gig ram, 7600gt) at home and I would like to install windows 7 instead of XP. The problem is that the motherboard drivers (Asus p4s8x) are available for XP only and not even vista. What can be done? Can vista handle XP drivers? |
I've got a P5K Pro yet there are no drivers for it, so you're not alone, but it doesn't cause any trouble.
Drivers for motherboards usually consist of this: memory controller drivers, on-board chip drivers (sound, lan, wlan, RAID), ACPI drivers.
You can get audio and lan drivers from realtek for your mobo, but SiS doesn't offer any vista/7 drivers, except for RAID. If you're lucky windows will install memory controller drivers (probably), for ACPI you can probably get drivers via windows update. Normally I don't install drivers from windows update but these worked on two PCs so, if you can't get a driver from the manufacturer you can try windows update.
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Aug 2009 16:08 Post subject: |
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| deelix wrote: | A little ironic that people are so obsessed with XP in this thread  |
People using XP:
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Aug 2009 16:17 Post subject: |
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Nah, wait for the proper OEM keys to get leaked (or risk having to reinstall in 120 days  ). But using XP over Vista -> look above.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Aug 2009 16:35 Post subject: |
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Until MS decides your serial is not genuine anymore. No thanks.
By "or risk having to reinstall in 120 days," I meant him not activating.
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Aug 2009 19:14 Post subject: |
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I never entered in a product key. Hazors crack still works great! Just ran an update today. Still says permanently activated.
Why are people entering in any keys to begin with?
Under my computer>properties - it does not display a key. It just says windows activation>Windows Activated>Product ID: xxxxxxx (is that the key it made up automatically?!??!)
**Also It found my realtek 8185 wifi card fine. So im over my baby time with it not finding my old nic card. Go Windows 7!!!
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| Posted: Tue, 4th Aug 2009 19:17 Post subject: |
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| todd72173 wrote: | I never entered in a product key. Hazors crack still works great! Just ran an update today. Still says permanently activated.
Why are people entering in any keys to begin with?
Under my computer>properties - it does not display a key. It just says windows activation>Windows Activated>Product ID: xxxxxxx (is that the key it made up automatically?!??!)
**Also It found my realtek 8185 wifi card fine. So im over my baby time with it not finding my old nic card. Go Windows 7!!! |
You are using the same key as everyone else who has win7 activated, the loader entered the key for you.
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