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 Posted: Wed, 19th Aug 2009 22:50 Post subject: |
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The unit path finding in this game is fucking atrocious.
I just did an offensive fort battle vs. AI in which I blew two chunks out of the frontal fort wall (why they only let you attack 2 sections of the wall is beyond me) as entrance points. Then, I decided to send a unit up on the front corners of the fort via grappling hooks so they could fire down in support of my men on the ground, big mistake. The guys get there, throw their hooks up, half of the men start climbing up the ropes, the other half start running through the gap to be slaughtered. Special.
Also, why is it that when I'm running a unit of linemen around, I order them to fire, and the first 3 lines are formed and ready, but the last line of the unit has a few stragglers behind not in formation. The entire fucking unit waits until the two fuckwits in the back of the line catch up before firing
Are there any mods that successfully address this dimwitted pathfinding without altering other ingame things such as unit stats?
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Aug 2009 15:25 Post subject: |
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did you order them on TOP of the wall or TO the wall?
if you clicked on the top, the AI finds the fastest path there..
walking around the wall for the stairs is usually faster for some AI in the back
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Aug 2009 11:10 Post subject: |
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the climb command orders them to go a distance relative to unit size to left and right of the click point
i guess there wasn't enough space for them all to climb there so they went around
silly still
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Aug 2009 09:27 Post subject: |
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Hey guys, I have a problem running Empire with all the patches applied. I have Razor's release (the Special Forces edition).
The game runs fine without any patch applied but when I try to install Razor's update 5, I keep getting stuck at the splash screen (the one with all the game info, with the publisher's logo and all; the first screen you see when you run the game in fact...).
I tried to install Update 5 then Update 6 without running the game in between, no luck. I tried running the game in between, still no luck.
What seems to be the problem ?
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Sin317
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Aug 2009 11:46 Post subject: |
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you not reading the nfo ...
for latest update (7) :
- Clean Razor1911 install (incl. content from Crack dir!)
- Razor 1911 Update #5
- Razor 1911 Update #6
then update 7.
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HubU
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Aug 2009 15:41 Post subject: |
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I bought the game but my DVD player is muerte, so I downloaded Razor's version and fuck! No steam!
How do I use darth mod with Razor's version?
Thanks =)
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Aug 2009 15:49 Post subject: |
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| HubU wrote: | I bought the game but my DVD player is muerte, so I downloaded Razor's version and fuck! No steam!
How do I use darth mod with Razor's version?
Thanks =) |
If you bought the game you can use cd key on steam and download your game through it, no DVD needed.
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HubU
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Aug 2009 19:16 Post subject: |
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| fawe4 wrote: | | HubU wrote: | I bought the game but my DVD player is muerte, so I downloaded Razor's version and fuck! No steam!
How do I use darth mod with Razor's version?
Thanks =) |
If you bought the game you can use cd key on steam and download your game through it, no DVD needed. |
Steam says that that key is already registered to another account, but I just have one :s
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 02:15 Post subject: |
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Do you guys read the forums ? CA has gotten into a "debate" with Paradox, this is fucking epic
"Will Hearts of Iron 3 use Goal-Oriented Action Planning (or a variant thereof)?......AFAIK, Empire: Total War uses this concept to great success"
Johan (Paradox head honcho and all round guru) replies with:
"Sorry, I don't have time to talk about our AI atm, but I was not aware of there being an AI in Empire Total War."
Then on Page 3 CA attempt to defend that they "do have an AI"
"Originally Posted by TW Rehab
Hi there Johan. This is Kieran from the Creative Assembly, the chaps behind Empire.
Forgive me if I cut to the chase, It's not particularly sporting (Or accurate) to suggest Empire 'has no AI'.
I appreciate I may have misread your remark, but I note several other readers have taken it the same way and in two subsequent posts you havn't bothered to correct them, so I can only assume it was your intention to take a swipe at Empire.
If I'm wrong, please do let me know. Otherwise meet me on Hang Man's Hill at midday, the weapon is swords.
Originally Posted by Johan
Sorry.
Just was irritated after paying for the game at releasedate and basically winning every single battle first try.
Then having the AI being unable to build armies that were challenging (even if you had no clue about the gamemechanics, which the manual did not explain.)
Basically I was able to knock out denmark in 1 year as Sweden by just marching the troops i had at start to christiania and kobenhavn.
It felt like "build something random, and move armies randomly at weak positions". The AI in eu1 was a bigger challenge and that one could not handle more than 2 targets per country.
We've been slaughtered for bad ai in games as well, but I'd expect that if you got a budget over 1M USD you'd be able to have at least 1 guy at AI for a year
First, thanks for buying Empire.
Second, if I may, as we know the fans will have their say and are the last, and most critical line of judgement. Rightly so as they're our customers.
So, as a player, we appreciated your feedback and interest in Empire.
Hopefully you'll feel more challenged with the upcoming release of the new Multiplayer Campaign beta. I'm sure one of our many AI programmers would be up for a game if you're looking for opposition...
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=268065
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 03:52 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 04:04 Post subject: |
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Multiplayer campaign BETA?! Fuck YES! About fucking time they announced something about that. Maybe I will end up having to buy napoleon after all.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 05:12 Post subject: |
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but its true, total war games dont have AI, until modders add it (free of charge) ...
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 07:40 Post subject: |
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Paradox isn't really in a position to criticize...
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Aug 2009 09:26 Post subject: |
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| tainted4ever wrote: | | Paradox isn't really in a position to criticize... |
actually, they are, as the paradox guy correctly hints at.
the budget for the Total War game is just so many times larger than that of comparable paradox games like Hearts of Iron and Europa Universalis, which are really just niche titles, while the Total War series are huge blockbuster games.
so while paradox strategy games might not have a better AI, at least they have an excuse for having to rush out an unfinished game (out of money).
Don't get me wrong, I love Total War and bought every game so far, but the AI has had the same damn problems in pretty much every game and it's true that it's pretty damn easy to beat most of the time.
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Aug 2009 14:56 Post subject: |
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Ok, right now I think it´s the time to get to install this game. I´ve been reading this topic with great interest, but I still don´t know the exact, correct way of installing this game with all patches applied.
Can anyone explain me the best way to install this game with all the patches up to date? I' ve both the RZR and the prophet rls, as well as RZR updates 5 and 6.
When I try to install the game, it asks for .sid files and I tried to point out to the files the way someone described earlier in this topic (_0, _1, _2, _2 or something). But that doesn't work: i'm left with an incomplete install. I' ve read that you need to copy files from image 1 to a directory, is that necessary?
So can anyone please help me with installing this properly? Thanks!
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Aeon
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Aug 2009 15:17 Post subject: |
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You can browse to select those .sid files. So you browse to youre mounted game and there they are.
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Aug 2009 15:21 Post subject: |
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| aeonfast wrote: | | You can browse to select those .sid files. So you browse to youre mounted game and there they are. |
That's what I do, but when i' ve done that a couple of times the installer crashes and i'm left with an incomplete install of the game. Plus i' ve tried it with the method described earlier in this topic (_0, _1, _2, _2 or something), didn't work either.
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Aug 2009 15:23 Post subject: |
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Hmm i didnt read anything of that method. Maybe you can make some screens or make a video.
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Aug 2009 16:40 Post subject: |
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You can fix an incomplete install by applying razor's first patch I think.
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Aug 2009 19:20 Post subject: |
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| Cyber2003 wrote: | How long do I have to wait after executing the update files (for example rzr-etw5)? Nothing happens...
Anyone knows? |
You have to put the patch where game exe is (game dir) and wait for some time until confirmation appears that patching was complete. It can take a long time but you have to wait.
Probably you messed up patching and that's why you get that error.
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Aug 2009 20:49 Post subject: |
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| Surray wrote: | | tainted4ever wrote: | | Paradox isn't really in a position to criticize... |
actually, they are, as the paradox guy correctly hints at.
the budget for the Total War game is just so many times larger than that of comparable paradox games like Hearts of Iron and Europa Universalis, which are really just niche titles, while the Total War series are huge blockbuster games.
so while paradox strategy games might not have a better AI, at least they have an excuse for having to rush out an unfinished game (out of money).
Don't get me wrong, I love Total War and bought every game so far, but the AI has had the same damn problems in pretty much every game and it's true that it's pretty damn easy to beat most of the time. |
But, but, CA now has that guy that works full time on AI now! Didn't you watch pre release videos?
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Aug 2009 21:28 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Aug 2009 12:10 Post subject: |
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Any other option? Damador's files or something? Can't get the rzr dox to work...
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