Pro Evolution Soccer 2010
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PES 2010 needs...
Better Gameplay
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More Teams & Leagues
14%
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Better Graphic & Animation
36%
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fearwhatnow




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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Aug 2009 13:41    Post subject:
It's early code based on last year's animations.Waiting for Euphoria announcement, i hope..


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ixigia
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Aug 2009 14:08    Post subject:
fearwhatnow wrote:
It's early code based on last year's animations.Waiting for Euphoria announcement, i hope..

I hope that too, but the sensation is that it won't happen this year; if they will simply overhaul all these blocky animations with newer ones it will enough for me. A proper implementation of a new physics engine in a month is a miracle, and I don't believe in miracles.. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Aug 2009 12:50    Post subject:
360 degree control confirmed, lot of new animations, manual Gks and ball request Very Happy...it's going to be awesome! : http://www.pesfan.com/news/8378298/PES-2010:-360-Degree-Movement-and-Other-Features-Confirmed/.
(fearwhatnow, your sensations were right Razz)
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fearwhatnow




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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Aug 2009 15:16    Post subject:
New screens:

http://www.pesfan.com/news/8378371/PES2010-Screenshots-Released/


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PostPosted: Mon, 17th Aug 2009 15:58    Post subject:
fearwhatnow wrote:
New screens:

http://www.pesfan.com/news/8378371/PES2010-Screenshots-Released/

Nice screens Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Aug 2009 15:36    Post subject:
Coming Friday i am at the GamesCom so then i can feel how good FIFA 10 will be Smile


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Aug 2009 13:21    Post subject:
I've watched several PES 2010 Gamescom footages, and I think that there is still a lot of work to do on the animations side. They're surely better than 2009 version's ones, but not so refined as I wished: running and dribbling animations are definitely too rough and blocky, especially if we compare them to those seen in the FIFA 10 console version from the EA conference.
KONAMI hasn't introduced 360 and other important features yet but, I repeat, it's a huge work since FIFA 10 (console) appears really on another planet.

EDIT: Here is the GC2009 PES2010 trailer:

and this is some of the FIFA 10 stuff I was talking about: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gc-09-fifa-soccer/54373
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Aug 2009 16:38    Post subject:
It's from a blurry cam, but it's clear that Pes isn't changed afterall. It's too fast, too arcade, the ball is frictionless and those animations...my hype is lowered a lot. Sad

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escalibur




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Aug 2009 17:56    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
It's from a blurry cam, but it's clear that Pes isn't changed afterall. It's too fast, too arcade, the ball is frictionless and those animations...my hype is lowered a lot. Sad



Gameplay looks like crap even this is next gen version.
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madness




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Aug 2009 17:58    Post subject:
Well..it's not done yet. the 360 degree movement hasn't been implemented, probably new animations either.
Anyway, I don't understand what people see in FIFA's animations, they aren't much better...
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fearwhatnow




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Aug 2009 18:07    Post subject:
Some facts:
- This is early code shown in gamescom.It isn't even a beta demo.
- 360 is not there.It will be on demo and full version.
- Improved animations are there but it's like 20-25% of those.
- Gameplay is good.They need to tone down the pace and i'm sure they'll do it(All the previous years betas and demos had fastest gameplay too and retail was toned down).

I liked what i saw.It is not arcade.The speed makes you think that.It will be improved for sure.


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Aug 2009 18:09    Post subject:
madnessnaab wrote:
Well..it's not done yet. the 360 degree movement hasn't been implemented, probably new animations either.
Anyway, I don't understand what people see in FIFA's animations, they aren't much better...

Look at this video for example: FIFA's animations are smooth, correctly jointed and...realisticly slow. The main problem of PES is that it's way too fast in rendering all the trajectory changes, dribblings are at insane speed and animations are overall more unjointed than FIFA's ones.
But, as you said, maybe some of them haven't been implemented yet; anyway my opinion is still there: it all too fast for being a realistic football game.
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LOGiX




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Aug 2009 18:43    Post subject:
This is an 80% code, NOT AN EARLY CODE, and they haven't implemented the most important aspects yet? Sounds like an excuse to me, which is usually the deal with Konami.

FIFA 10 is wayyyyyy up ahead in terms of just about everything.


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fearwhatnow




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Aug 2009 19:18    Post subject:
LOGiX wrote:
This is an 80% code, NOT AN EARLY CODE, and they haven't implemented the most important aspects yet? Sounds like an excuse to me, which is usually the deal with Konami.

FIFA 10 is wayyyyyy up ahead in terms of just about everything.


I guess you don't know some things.This is a 20-25% completion as i mentioned above.PES2010 started as a project WITHOUT 360 movement.Seabass said that pes2011 will have 360.When EA announced 360 control there was only one way for the pes team.The animations WITH 360 movement are not finished yet.These 2 must be reworked together.Even if there were 90% new animations now they are completely useless without the 360 control testing and arranging.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Aug 2009 20:01    Post subject:
LOGiX wrote:


FIFA 10 is wayyyyyy up ahead in terms of just about everything.


PES wins in graphics! At least on PC Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2009 03:39    Post subject:
LOGiX wrote:
This is an 80% code, NOT AN EARLY CODE, and they haven't implemented the most important aspects yet? Sounds like an excuse to me, which is usually the deal with Konami.

I can confirm this, Konami has stated that the GC build is an 80% code. Crying or Very sad
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madness




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2009 10:01    Post subject:
Well..get FIFA then Razz
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xyzg




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2009 15:10    Post subject:
was reading on a few PES forums which stated 2010 will include 360 dribbling like Fifa (although it is only implemented on the PS3's DS3.. due to technical restrictions supposedly), as well as authentic motion capture from Barca's Lionel Messi.

All the haters that think PES animation is shit... you now know who to blame!.

anyway, article source of info here

The revamped Master league is looking interesting judging from the various screenshots.
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Aug 2009 18:27    Post subject:
By the way, do any of the latest FIFA games include team and player customization options?
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Aug 2009 02:09    Post subject:
Looks like some guys tested the latest build of PES 2010 (newer than the GamesConference's one):

http://vimeo.com/6331277

The good news is that the game finally seems slightly slower, maybe still too much fast for my taste, but it's definitely better. 360 looks good, and since it's in a wip developement stage we could expect some improvements on movements and players collisions.
The bad news is that the animation system (though surely improved from the 2009 version) is still far from perfect, some old heritages contribute to worsen the visual realism (90deg dribblings, running and long pass animations etc.)

Anyway, comparing this PES 2010 build to the FIFA 10 PC one, well, judge for yourself:

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Soul_Caster




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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Aug 2009 12:45    Post subject:
the gameplay looks exactly like the old pes. same movements, dribblings passes and so on


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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Aug 2009 14:28    Post subject:
How often do you play pes09? And when was the last time you played it? I'm playing it on a daily basis and this gameplay looks alot more interesting then pes09. But I really need to play pes 6 again. I really miss it's gameplay Sad


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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Aug 2009 14:47    Post subject:
PumpAction wrote:
How often do you play pes09? And when was the last time you played it? I'm playing it on a daily basis and this gameplay looks alot more interesting then pes09. But I really need to play pes 6 again. I really miss it's gameplay Sad

I uninstalled Pes09 months ago, but I have pes6 installed on my laptop and it still owns pes09 badly in terms of gameplay and fun Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Aug 2009 15:04    Post subject:
I can't play PES 06 anymore.. the player database is way too old for me Sad
but it is the best soccer game in a long time
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Aug 2009 15:54    Post subject:
http://downloads.gamingaccess.com/index.php?cat_id=426<<here you can find some database updates
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seppovich




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Sep 2009 09:20    Post subject:
http://www.taringa.net/posts/downloads/3260166/pes-2010-download-demo.html

is this real? i mean, did someone hear of a leak?
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Sep 2009 09:26    Post subject:
Well, it says demo ...
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Sep 2009 10:01    Post subject:
Creado el: 26.08.2009 a las 09:53:39 hs.

sure it's Fake ...
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ByteR4cer




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Sep 2009 10:15    Post subject:
fake ... there is a batman movie inside the files :/
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Sep 2009 12:34    Post subject:
woow i want the batman moovie :<
fuck pes

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