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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2009 14:48    Post subject:
Ah well, this way they wont sell their retail dvd version at all. Atleast there is D2D version and Steam which will run from HDD.
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2009 14:49    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Ah well, this way they wont sell their retail dvd version at all. Atleast there is D2D version and Steam which will run from HDD.



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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2009 14:50    Post subject:
Yeah I just re-read it, seems it won't install at all from the disc, HDD's are faster than DVD's as well so it's a pretty useless feature.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2009 15:01    Post subject:
A. Having NO install option is a ridiculously stupid thing to do, copy-protection be fucking damned. All Capcom are doing with this pathetic choice is harming the legitimate customers - because this WILL be cracked.

B. Can somebody PLEASE edit the fucking thread title? Seriously, (Rumour)? This has been confirmed for five months now, ffs.
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2009 15:06    Post subject:
Steam or similar digital distribution method would work as well, not like copying the files over is that difficult either and it's not that much work aside from taking some time to do.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2009 15:06    Post subject:
Aye, definitely a D2D/Steam release would be the best version to get. I mean.. what the hell were Capcom thinking? Did they really believe having it as a "Can't Install" option would be beneficial for players? Ickk..
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2009 15:34    Post subject:
I didn't think PC's where even capable of running a game straight from a DVD like that due to the way the hardware works with your OS, it's kind of interesting but ultimately useless, and pretty much unheard of in the PC world. I mean even some console games have to install some of the game data to hard drive these days, but I guess it makes sense that a PC can do it, after all, an xbox is more or less a PC in itself.


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2009 15:40    Post subject:
Guys, I think the "play with a disc" is just an option, I'm pretty sure you can install the game if you want...
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2009 15:49    Post subject:
But why they let you install Street Fighter IV then? It doesn't make any sense to make one port like a normal PC game, and a second like a console ripoff.

EDIT: also:

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if you guys check the pc requirement for RE5, it saids 8gb free of hdd space. Doesn't that mean there will be installs?


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rhagz
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2009 15:50    Post subject:
It's probably just some shit lost in translation.

And even if not, who cares? Just mount the image and play it like it's a disc.. except faster.
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2009 15:54    Post subject:
If the news turn out to be true, this game has a real possibility to be the most downloaded game ever (remember what happened to Spore? Laughing)
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2009 15:56    Post subject:
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Guys, I think the "play with a disc" is just an option, I'm pretty sure you can install the game if you want...


But it's promo time! :

"are you jelous of your friend's powerful blurayded PS3? are you tired of all the annoying complex installations ruining your brand new HDD and of those endless 5min waiting times?
GET rid of them! Buy RE5 PC DVD and you won't need a console anymore! Just insert your cd, plug in your shiny gamepad and you can finally trash your stupid mousen'keyboard!"


/end of promo.
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2009 15:58    Post subject:
suprman wrote:
I didn't think PC's where even capable of running a game straight from a DVD like that


It was actually common practice back in the DOS/Win31/Win95 days. Games would install only the tiniest amount of data (usually just a few meg at best) and the rest would be run from CD. Slowly more and more games started losing the "Install Small (40MB), Medium (100MB), Large (400MB)" styles and just became pure "full install" setups.

This worked fine when games just loaded sprites or basic 3D effects, but I shudder to think what it would be like on games with 1024x1024 textures and tons of 3D data.
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2009 16:00    Post subject:
lhzr wrote:
why wouldn't it be possible? the saves and settings will be kept on the harddrive as usual, all you need is a shortcut to the .exe and it's done.


Dunno I just assumed PC's worked sligtly differently to consoles.

I also assumed installers did more than just dump/unpack the files to hard disk what with adding registry entries and such to help your OS recognise the software is there. Perhaps I'm showing my ignorance here but tbh it's something I haven't spent alot of time trying to work out.
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2009 16:03    Post subject:
suprman wrote:
lhzr wrote:
why wouldn't it be possible? the saves and settings will be kept on the harddrive as usual, all you need is a shortcut to the .exe and it's done.


Dunno I just assumed PC's worked sligtly differently to consoles.

I also assumed installers did more than just dump/unpack the files to hard disk what with adding registry entries and such to help your OS recognise the software is there. Perhaps I'm showing my ignorance here but tbh it's something I haven't spent alot of time trying to work out.


you know that the 360 is a pc, right?
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2009 16:04    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
suprman wrote:
I didn't think PC's where even capable of running a game straight from a DVD like that


It was actually common practice back in the DOS/Win31/Win95 days. Games would install only the tiniest amount of data (usually just a few meg at best) and the rest would be run from CD. Slowly more and more games started losing the "Install Small (40MB), Medium (100MB), Large (400MB)" styles and just became pure "full install" setups.

This worked fine when games just loaded sprites or basic 3D effects, but I shudder to think what it would be like on games with 1024x1024 textures and tons of 3D data.


Ah now that you mention it I do remember a few installers with that kind of install, S/M/L, but like you say these days there is massive amounts of data in games that need to be processed quickly, can a DVD cut it on PC, probably not Confused
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2009 16:08    Post subject:
Well, I guess from a technical standpoint; yes, PC DVD drives can cut it - seeing as how most standard PC drives have at least 16x speed, whereas 360 one has 12x max. Would it be optimal? HELL no.
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2009 16:39    Post subject:
lhzr wrote:
suprman wrote:
I also assumed installers did more than just dump/unpack the files to hard disk what with adding registry entries and such to help your OS recognise the software is there.

yeah, they do more, they usually save settings to the registry, install whatever 3rd party components the game needs (physx, acrobat reader..), etc. all that can be done by the game when you run it for the first time, though, so it doesn't really matter.


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Edit:(before it was just assumption ) Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2009 16:57    Post subject:
even if you could run from DVD without installing (not an easy feat, considering modern games load a lot of data in realtime, such as textures, sounds, voices, etc...) why would you WANT to?

Why would you want to hear the fucking drive spinning all the time in your ears? Why would you want to have longer load times and constant stutters waiting for the drive to spin-up every time a line of dialog is loaded? Why would you want to shorten the life-time of your drive for that matter?

To save 5 minutes of installation? That doesn't make sense... optical medium is made for copying data/linear access, not for fast direct access.

Consoles remedy to this by having the data placed carefully on the disc surface and the streaming the data constantly while keeping the disc spinning all the time, plus having long loading times at the beginning of each level to cache data... have you ever compared consoles load time in, say, Devil May Cry 4 to the pc? Then you know WHY hdd is much better...
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2009 17:24    Post subject:
im putting my money as an option and a seriously shitty lost in translation episode

Games for windows includes an option to play the game off the disk while it''s installing and was only ever done wiht Halo 2 to show it could be done.

And now here's half the world nerd raging over nothing.

Capcom isn't stupid enough to pull a move like this.


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2009 18:10    Post subject:
Looks like it was running well enough, no skipping or load times and I guess they have the same preview code as the swedish magazine had.


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2009 18:15    Post subject:
yay, mouselook =)
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2009 18:51    Post subject:
KainXVIII wrote:
yay, mouselook =)

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