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JackQ
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 Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 21:20 Post subject: [OTHER] Console Scene,Then and Now |
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Edit: I changed the title to:
"Console Scene,Then and Now"
it seems the consoles companies manage to secure their consoles hard
and now most of the new consoles are partial hacked to not hacked at all.
DSi - not fully hacked{you still can't pirate DSiware games}
PSP{newest versions like 3000 and GO} not fully hacked and with the newest FW you can't play games with those PSP.
X-box 360- no fully hacked.the Disc drive was the "weak point" to play beckups
but you can only partial play homebrew and you can't play cracked live arcade games.
PS3- Not hacked at all.
what happened?
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 21:30 Post subject: |
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PS3 will be cracked when the bu-ray recorders and disks become cheaper. You can as well get all 4 games for PS3 that are worth playing and not available on x360
11th "Thou shalt not flash"
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JackQ
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 21:30 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | PSP - 3000 has been hacked, |
I have read that with version that above 5.03
you can't hack it yet,and you can't dowgrade it.
| Quote: | | DSiWare are DRM protected and locked to that console. |
| Quote: | | X360-XBLA is DRM protected and are tied to your account. |
like I said,so they mange to secure those games,for now.
and it still "uncracked"
so,I still not considered this as "fully hacked"
"fully hacked" is when you can fully play all games
on the console,no matter if they are on disc or from your hard drive.
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 21:32 Post subject: |
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| Clcancellation wrote: |
| Quote: | | PSP - 3000 has been hacked, |
I have read that with version that up to 5.03
you can't hack it yet,and you can't dowgrade it. |
Just like always; you have "read" and then you come post it on here. That's false. Every PSP with a battery slot allows downgrading via Pandora, then flashing upwards to whatever FW you want.
Latest FWs haven't been cracked yet, which bites, but at least we have the Decrypt app for running 5.55+ titles now.
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 21:33 Post subject: |
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I hope one day the PS3 can be hacked. There are some games for the PS3 that are not available for the XBOX 360 or the Wii that I would love to play. Even if the disks used for burning might be a little more expensive it would still be worth it
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 21:36 Post subject: |
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| Mr_Baggins wrote: | | PS3 will be cracked when the bu-ray recorders and disks become cheaper. You can as well get all 4 games for PS3 that are worth playing and not available on x360 |
Bullshit, that's not how it works. If PS3 also had a weakspot in DVD drive firmware it would be cracked ages ago. Are you that naive to believe that there's a hacker checking prices of bluray media and burners every day and waiting for them to drop under a certain amount and then he'll hack PS3? 
Not to mention blank blurays are pretty damn cheap already, you can buy like 10-20 blank discs for the price of 1 game.
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JackQ
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 21:40 Post subject: |
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this console "gen" his less "hackble" then the previous,
sure,most of consoles games are still crackble,but there is now a full console that has not been hacked yet{PS3} and Arcade/Dsiware games that can't be cracked yet.
if this will be continue,we will see more of this "protections" in the future,and
less and less consoles games will be "crackble"
that's why I'm worry about the future of the console scene.
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 22:46 Post subject: |
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the reason there hasnt been much going on in the PS3 hacking front is because most initiatives within the hacking community have been to get linux running on these machines. With the PS3 linux runs so no need for these types of hackers to circumvent the security to run it. In the early dayss i do beleive a certain scene grp was close to having a loader but a FW patch nixed it
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 22:56 Post subject: |
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| Mr_Baggins wrote: | | PS3 will be cracked when the bu-ray recorders and disks become cheaper. You can as well get all 4 games for PS3 that are worth playing and not available on x360 |
Well they havent actually cracked the ps3's hypervisor yet..neither have they on the 360..well not fully anyways. So we cant say for sure if the ps3 would be cracked right now even if it had a dvd drive instead of a bluray.
As for the poster of this thread - i dont really understand the reason behind the post..the scene is still the same as always..some consoles are cracked and some are not cracked..just because a few werent cracked doesnt mean the scene is falling apart. Its as important today as it was 8 years ago. Believe it or not..there is money to be made with the cracking scene..so as long as there is money to be made..there will be cracked systems.
Also a blu ray burner is almost there as mainstream affordable..can get a bluray burner for around 175 bucks now. Can get bluray blank disc's for 10 for under 100 bucks now...i sure would buy one for a cracked ps3 right now..but there is no cracked ps3 yet, i'd say in 1 year there will be a cracked ps3.
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JackQ
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 23:01 Post subject: |
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I didn't said that consoles games not "cracked" I'm saying
that the situation is quite different then the previous one,
in the previous one all the consoles {expect GC} were fully hacked,
this time the consoles are less "hacked" then before.
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 23:08 Post subject: |
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Actually, Gamecube was fully cracked too - it just had an odd way of loading the backup games if you didn't have the full-size DVD drive/case mod.
As for this generation, they're not "less" hacked. Each console, except PS3, plays backup games. You just don't get EVERYTHING for free like DSiWare or XBLA/PSN titles. That has nothing to do with cracking the "system" but hacking the 128bit++ security in place via DRM.
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JackQ
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 23:25 Post subject: |
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like I mention,just because I want it to be "fully hacked"
it doesnt mean I'm gonna get "EVERYTHING" for free.
like some of the people here,I'm buying some games,
and those people want things to be hacked too.
as for the console DRM,
is there some news about hacking this?
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 23:26 Post subject: |
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Were SNES and Megadrive ever hacked?  [/serious question]
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Ispep
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 23:31 Post subject: |
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...at the time of its release, not now
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 23:38 Post subject: |
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sabin1981
is the N64 was "hackble" too?
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Oct 2009 00:01 Post subject: |
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| bushwacka wrote: |
awesome, never knew about that cartridge backup stuff
you know what's funny about this? nintendo themselves were unable to get out a decent disc-based expansion for the n64 as well as the snes, but some crackers managed to do so
imagine nintendo had simply bought up the v64jr/vdoctor...we would have had final fantasy 64! |
even more funny was sony and nintendo were planning on making the playstation together but through some mumbo jumbo it didn't happen, sony was responsible for making the CD part of it. |
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All 5.50 and 6.00 games right now have been patched/hacked too.
(I kid, I kid..)
Phillips and Nintendo entered into an agreement to make a CD-ROM attachment for the SNES, and eventually their next machine the Ultra 64 (what was originally named in arcades, and eventually came to be known the Nintendo 64) -- but they pulled out of the deal at the last minute, citing that cartridges were still their best option.
