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| Pashtet wrote: | | Sin317 wrote: | | Pashtet wrote: | | And someone is already a game, even if it is not passing activation? I could not upload anywhere? |
say what ? Who's a game ? you cant upload yourself anywhere ? damn, thats some nice engrish right there. Almost Bundlish hehe |
I ask, has anyone a copy of the game?
Sorry for my English =( |
No, no one has a working copy of the game. There is no release out there yet, only the Xbox 360 version is out on the net.
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OchoBits
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 18:07 Post subject: |
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Someone should clone that thing, even if it's not working. A pirate can dream.
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Epsilon
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 18:12 Post subject: |
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| OchoBits wrote: | | Someone should clone that thing, even if it's not working. A pirate can dream. |
That would also allow interested parties to mess with the protection. |
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OchoBits
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 18:15 Post subject: |
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Also, just found this about the lack of serial:
| Quote: | Electronic CD-Key for secure online gaming
Electronic CD-Key is a new SecuROM™ function based on n-CD technology. The application replaces serialisation codes on stickers applied on retail games boxes, saving games publishers material and handling costs, and users inconvenient manual input. Each disc is assigned a unique invisible identification number. The code is read by the computer drive and initiates an automatic access to online gaming. As the technology is backwards compatible, virtually any computer drive can read the data. Ensuring that codes are safe, Electronic CD-Key lets the widespread method of unauthorised access to codes in stores come to an end, as they can't be seen anymore. JoWooD Productions Software AG will be the first games publisher to apply this convenient technology to the global games release "Soldiers" which will hit stores in May. |
I've never heard of this before...
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Sin317
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 18:30 Post subject: |
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| OchoBits wrote: | Also, just found this about the lack of serial:
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Whoa... that's actually really impressive! It's a pain for pirates, obviously, but a real boon for legitimate gamers. Typing in cd-keys was always a pain in the arse, lol. So is that the protection used for Borderlands, you reckon?
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 18:31 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 18:44 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | OchoBits wrote: | Also, just found this about the lack of serial:
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Whoa... that's actually really impressive! It's a pain for pirates, obviously, but a real boon for legitimate gamers. Typing in cd-keys was always a pain in the arse, lol. So is that the protection used for Borderlands, you reckon? |
It'll be exploited in seconds. Borderlands doesn't have activation limits so all you need is a 1:1 disc image and you're set. I imagine they'd catch on to one key being used too many times rather quickly however.
Anyway.
Retail: SecuRom CD check + Unique serial used for whatever + Online activation (using that key).
Steam: Steam + Unique serial above is used for MP maybe?
/shrug. I'll be playing on LAN anyway.
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 18:56 Post subject: |
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There is a serial, it's imbedded in the game disk, new feature of secrurom
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 19:01 Post subject: |
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Always funny to see e-lawyers talk about lawsuits and other inane nonsense. Equally funny to see people blame Gearbox for something that is 100% entirely the retailers fault.
Here's a solution. Don't ship games to stores early to have on the shelves first thing release day. Ship them at launch so you can wait several days for them to get them. Betcha'd love that!
The game doesn't release until it releases, for whatever reason. That is not Gearbox's or 2k's fault. Blame the store who sold it early. Get over it.
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 19:05 Post subject: |
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| rhagz wrote: |
Here's a solution. Don't ship games to stores early to have on the shelves first thing release day. Ship them at launch so you can wait several days for them to get them. Betcha'd love that! |
Or just learn2logistics like everyone else, though my guess is they just shipped it together with console versions to save, but it's entirely within the realm of possibility to have the copies arrive at the retailer the day before release, and logistics is also the publishers responsibility, so if they would, they could.
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 19:06 Post subject: |
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| rhagz wrote: | | The game doesn't release until it releases, for whatever reason. That is not Gearbox's or 2k's fault. Blame the store who sold it early. Get over it. |
It'd be fine if that release was at the same time as the console version but that's not what happened now is it? It should be of no surprise to you that people are angry about the delay and the fact that retailers (pretty much everywhere) have copies only makes the situation more annoying.
I'm sure even with shipping worldwide they could have the release date a lot earlier than the 26th.
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 19:06 Post subject: |
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| rhagz wrote: | Always funny to see e-lawyers talk about lawsuits and other inane nonsense. Equally funny to see people blame Gearbox for something that is 100% entirely the retailers fault.
Here's a solution. Don't ship games to stores early to have on the shelves first thing release day. Ship them at launch so you can wait several days for them to get them. Betcha'd love that!
The game doesn't release until it releases, for whatever reason. That is not Gearbox's or 2k's fault. Blame the store who sold it early. Get over it. |
I agree. But imagine the peeps that dont go to forums and stuff and just pick it up on a whim only to get home and fine it wont install.
I can understand the frustration. And it makes me sad for a really good game developer to have a really good game that might be tarnished on the PC because of this release fiasco.
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 19:08 Post subject: |
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They don't ship one game at a time, the distributors ship many games at once. Also other things, controllers, hardware, etc. The stores place orders and the distributors they get everything from handle that. 2k doesn't send the boxes directly to the stores.
It's not hard for a store to see 'don't sell until date X' and not fucking sell it, yet they still manage to fuck up on a colossal scale.
| Quote: | I agree. But imagine the peeps that dont go to forums and stuff and just pick it up on a whim only to get home and fine it wont install.
I can understand the frustration. And it makes me sad for a really good game developer to have a really good game that might be tarnished on the PC because of this release fiasco. |
I'm sure it is frustating, but a rational consumer would say 'well, the store fucked up. Maybe I should do business elsewhere. Either way I can't blame the developer for something they didn't do!'
Irrational ones go to forums and start e-petitions and threaten e-lawsuits. Or come here and beg for fucking e-clones.
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 19:10 Post subject: |
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| rhagz wrote: | | It's not hard for a store to see 'don't sell until date X' and not fucking sell it, yet they still manage to fuck up on a colossal scale. |
There is meant to be some form of punishment for a store breaking a street date but it never happens. No risk of punishment means everyone will do it.
| rhagz wrote: | I'm sure it is frustating, but a rational consumer would say 'well, the store fucked up. Maybe I should do business elsewhere. Either way I can't blame the developer for something they didn't do!'
Irrational ones go to forums and start e-petitions and threaten e-lawsuits. Or come here and beg for fucking e-clones. |
I'd like to know what crazy world you live in because the majority of consumers are going to be the irrational ones. You buy something you expect it to work. Bah why do you even bother bringing this up?
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 19:12 Post subject: |
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| Kyorisu wrote: | | rhagz wrote: | | It's not hard for a store to see 'don't sell until date X' and not fucking sell it, yet they still manage to fuck up on a colossal scale. |
There is meant to be some form of punishment for a store breaking a street date but it never happens. No risk of punishment means everyone will do it. |
The punishment should be to not send that store any more new releases, but that would kill the developers as they need their games out there as much as possible. So Gearbox/2K are the ones being fucked over. They get bad publicity for something they didn't do and yet they have to take it if they want big chain stores to keep ordering their shit.
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 19:14 Post subject: |
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If it was that big of a deal 2K could easily remedy the situation but clearly they don't think it is or simply don't care. They rightfully deserve any bad publicity they get anyway. Street dates are fine but making your product completely unusable until some random date knowing your product is being sold to consumers is just stupid.
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 19:19 Post subject: |
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Except it's not a random date. It's the release date.
How would it be fair to other retailers who don't get the product in early? Or distributors who honor the street date?
If you let one company get away with it then people flock to them and the others stop stocking your shit.
Release dates aren't made to piss people off, they are there to give an equal and fair opportunity for everyone to both sell AND buy the product at the same time.
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 19:23 Post subject: |
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Now you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. The release date for PC Borderlands was not set so they could make sure every retailer got the game and was set entirely for other reasons. You know this. Now retailers are leaking the game early and 2K has the option to remove the restriction and turn on their activation servers but they don't.
| rhagz wrote: | | Release dates aren't made to piss people off, |
Oh I think in this case it is designed to piss people off. Piss them off enough to make them want to buy the available console version. We could continue arguing about pointless things all night we really could but that doesn't interest me.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 19:28 Post subject: |
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| Kyorisu wrote: |
Oh I think in this case it is designed to piss people off. Piss them off enough to make them want to buy the available console version. We could continue arguing about pointless things all night we really could but that doesn't interest me. |
Anyone that gets pissed off about 6 days needs some perspective, plain and simple. No point in arguing that nonsense at all.
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 19:30 Post subject: |
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I just found that cool ignore user button in case you wonder why I don't respond.
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 19:37 Post subject: |
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OchoBits
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 19:40 Post subject: |
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Say goodbye to an early release:
| 2K Elizabeth wrote: | Hey guys,
Yesterday we learned that a fraction of the PC copies of Borderlands were accidentally sold to consumers in some countries but that gamers could not activate their copies yet. Since we learned of this problem, we have been looking into the issue to find the best possible solution for everyone.
I'm going to be completely honest with you guys right now. It is not possible for us to move the planned release date of the game forward. We could not possibly get the games into stores worldwide and out for digital distribution any earlier than planned. Less than 1% of all copies were sold, and if we unlocked the game today, illegal versions would most likely appear on torrents by the evening. I am sure all of you want our PC launch to be as successful as possible, and we simply won't be able to manage that any earlier than already planned.
I want to apologize for those of you who have gotten the game ahead of our release date, and ask for your patience and understanding. The game will be ready in the US and Canada at midnight eastern standard time on Monday, October 26th, and internationally by Friday, October 30th.
-Elizabeth |
As many of you said, same thing as Bioshock: A big fuck you we decide when to release our shit.
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Oct 2009 19:41 Post subject: |
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since they dont burn each copy just stamp them .. how can they integrate diffirent cd key on each dvd ...
