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ainatar77




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 04:37    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
The "+65% damage" has already been calculated and shown in the damage category. If you want to get technical, then you can work out like this;

Gun A does 145 damage with a single shot, but can fire 2.4 times in a second.
Gun B does 180 damage with a single shot, but can only fire 0.9 times in a second.

Ergo, Gun A - while having a lower damage out per single shot - can subsequently inflict greater damage due to the fact that it fires 2.4 shots every second.


As for doing "1.65x damage with every shot" - where did you get THAT from? Confused The gun does 145 damage with every shot, but can shoot faster than the other gun, meaning greater overall damage every second.


I thought so because of the +65% damage. I thought you added that percentage to the base damage.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 04:39    Post subject:
Nah, as far as I'm aware; that bonus is calculated in the shown damage output.
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ainatar77




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 04:41    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Nah, as far as I'm aware; that bonus is calculated in the shown damage output.


Ok, anyone else knows for certain?
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 05:04    Post subject:
The +damage is included in the damage of the weapon. It makes you wonder why they even show you that stat, as it's pretty much useless to know.

Well, I started playing this on PC now, level 14 Mordecai. Add dezztroy49 on GameSpy if you want to play.
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 05:59    Post subject:
And here's the link explaining thid person that Sabin posted screens of on the previous page.

http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=80533
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 06:30    Post subject:
23hrs 01min. Lv36 Soldier. Finished ^_^

Fuck me that was a seriously epic game. I loved every minute of it Very Happy
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wrathamon




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 07:29    Post subject:
Finished the game in 20 hours.

Level 36.
With the sniper fellow.
Game was very good.

I can now see the addiction of MMO games.
My resolve to never ever play an MMO has now been strengthened even further.
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 08:08    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
23hrs 01min. Lv36 Soldier. Finished ^_^

Fuck me that was a seriously epic game. I loved every minute of it Very Happy


Now start your second playthrough and get ready to enjoy it even more.
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wrathamon




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 08:21    Post subject:
What exactly is a second playthrough?

Do you start the game from the beginning with all your stats n gear ?
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FISKER_Q




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 08:53    Post subject:
wrathamon wrote:
What exactly is a second playthrough?

Do you start the game from the beginning with all your stats n gear ?


Just like Nightmare mode for Diablo, and when you're done playing through the second playthrough i believe all mobs just level to 50.
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Nec




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 09:09    Post subject:
Are the enemies and loot dependent on your level or the area? Assuming I go back to the start area after leveling up a couple dozen times, will the loot be low level and enemies weak?


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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 09:19    Post subject:
Depend on the area.

Second playthrough is just a new game with the same character and equipment, except enemies are harder and drop better loot. And after you finish playthrough 2, all enemies will be around level 50 (48-51 are what I've seen).
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wrathamon




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 09:49    Post subject:
Those dudes in metal armor were awesome.

Awesome when I pwned them with my Toxic Revolver.
Boom Headshot. BOOM HEADSHOT !!!
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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 09:56    Post subject:
at least the mob names are changet on the second play Very Happy
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Citrone




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 10:26    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
The +damage is included in the damage of the weapon. It makes you wonder why they even show you that stat, as it's pretty much useless to know.


o'rly? stupid me....Sad
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ClaudeFTW




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 10:46    Post subject:
The second playthrough has like, insane amount of loot compared to the fist one.

This is what I found in the first two hours in my second playthrough.

 Spoiler:
 


The revolver is ownage, I kill everything from one shot. Good thing it loads fast, it only has two shots per magazine.
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 10:48    Post subject:
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 12:44    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Ah, well - it's not just me (I'm not going crazy! Stop talking to me!!) there's a lot of people, on here too, getting the same glitchy shitty UI - there wouldn't be a NEED for ini tweaks if there wasn't, would there? Razz Razz Razz Razz

Any way; just found an Alien Cannon and it does 850dmg Laughing


i don't think they know what you were talking about (and anyone else for that matter). they read "mousewheel not working" and stopped reading.


Obviously Mousewheel works for changing Weapon. It doesn't, however, work for quest text etc. where you have to use pgup and pgdn ...
But quite frankly. that didn't annoy me much, i hardly read quest text anyway lol...
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 12:56    Post subject:
Goddammit, I dropped alot of great guns because the lesser counterparts had stats like "+200% damage" Sad
The "x7" stat means the gun shoots seven bullets at a time right? Or is that "damage times 7" with criticals? I had some guns with that stat shoot several bullets in one shot, but others do not. It's a bit confusing. Shotguns also seem to be useless, thouh I'm only lvl 16 atm. The spread is so damn wide, it's hard to hit anything unless you can see the blood in their eyeballs.
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 13:01    Post subject:
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 13:03    Post subject:
Tested binding a few of the debug commands as normal keys, worked fine.
(Notarget really helps if you just want to explore without killing everyone.)
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 13:10    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
And here's the link explaining thid person that Sabin posted screens of on the previous page.

http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=80533


meh, i cant move anymore when I add those commands in the Documents/MyGames/Borderlands/WillowGame/WillowInput.ini ...


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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 13:14    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
Goddammit, I dropped alot of great guns because the lesser counterparts had stats like "+200% damage" Sad
The "x7" stat means the gun shoots seven bullets at a time right? Or is that "damage times 7" with criticals? I had some guns with that stat shoot several bullets in one shot, but others do not. It's a bit confusing. Shotguns also seem to be useless, thouh I'm only lvl 16 atm. The spread is so damn wide, it's hard to hit anything unless you can see the blood in their eyeballs.
The x7 isn't exactly 7 bullets at once, more like 7 projectiles from one piece of ammo. So in one shot, you'll still use up one bullet, but you'll shoot out 7 separate projectiles, all doing the damage indicated.

I once found an SMG with a x7 damage. It was essentially an auto-shotgun with insane fire rate. But it was only effective at very close ranges so I stayed with my old one, even though the overall damage was better on the "x7" one.
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 13:14    Post subject:
Add them under "[Engine.PlayerInput]" instead. Smile
(To add to the above the command togglehud really helps with screenshots.)
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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 13:29    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
Add them under "[Engine.PlayerInput]" instead. Smile
(To add to the above the command togglehud really helps with screenshots.)


Thanks again JB. Got it working now.


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Citrone




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 13:36    Post subject:
Guys have a question. I found a class mod with +3 grit, but I didn't spec for Grit so in my talent tree I have 0/0 grit. Will this mod give me +3 to this stat even if I don't have any point at talent tree?


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Belsameth




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 13:39    Post subject:
Nope. Needs 1 point in ot to work. It won't show up inm the talent tree tho (and you can go over 5 this way)
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Citrone




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 13:47    Post subject:
Belsameth wrote:
Nope. Needs 1 point in ot to work. It won't show up inm the talent tree tho (and you can go over 5 this way)


thanks for answer. So if I have +3 on item I can just have 2/5 on tree to have 5/5. Now I understand. Thanks
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 13:56    Post subject:
ha found my first "pearl" colored gun (and a pistol which is perfect, since im a gunslinger Hunter ^^)

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Big_Gun




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Oct 2009 14:05    Post subject:
aeonfast wrote:
3 play trougsh? Can you explane that a little better? After you finished the game once, there is a way to play it a second time, but then harder?


Thats what i am told. There are 3 difficulties that unlock ala Diablo II.

I dunno myself as I havent had time to finish it once yet. I work too much.


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