[XBOX360] Anyone been banned from live lately?
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RMFX




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2009 15:32    Post subject:
How was it banned if it never went online?
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kryon




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2009 15:38    Post subject:
RMFX wrote:
How was it banned if it never went online?


well, I meant i never played multiplayer, always single.


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Grale
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2009 15:44    Post subject:
I just got one of my old boxes back, it's still on an older firmware can't remember which one, but i have to patch all the games to wave2 for it to work on it.

mw2 wouldn't play it needed to do an update on the console as it never gets connected to live, but the update from the mw2 disc refused to work, it just said disc dirty unable to update...

I connected the box to live and updated that way, but now i won't be able to go back online with it, as it will 100% be flagged for the next ban wave!

My question is did patching the game to wave2 disable the update somehow??


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RMFX




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2009 15:46    Post subject:
kryon wrote:
RMFX wrote:
How was it banned if it never went online?


well, I meant i never played multiplayer, always single.


Well that doesn't mean that it wasn't online. You don't need to play a multiplayer game for them to catch you and it's quite naive to think that you do. If anything, I'd say that whatever check they use to determine the state of your firmware either takes place when you boot the machine or as soon as you log into live via the dash. Not when you are in the middle of a team deathmatch on COD6 or any other game.

Plenty of silver members got the chop aswell BTW, so you're not telling us anything new here either.
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killabyte




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2009 18:05    Post subject:
i get the whole "you modded your console and we reserve the right to keep you off live". that makes sense. disabling the HD install feature also makes sense, because they gave it to us free (i use that word lightly) of charge. in other words it wasn't guaranteed to you at purchase.

i can also see them doing the corruption thing on the profile. that way there's non of the super safe play copies offline and update your achievements on a legit system. sucks, but makes perfect sense also. what i DON'T get is the corruption of your save game files. wouldn't that classify as personal data and wouldn't that make altering it unusable wrong? sure you can still use it on the banned console but what about going legit with a new one and playing online. oh that's right you can't, you'll have to start said game over. i realize it's not that big a deal for most games but think of something like crackdown with the orb collection, or hell any massive RPG type of game for that matter.

aren't they breaking the law on some level or another?
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killabyte




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2009 18:08    Post subject:
oh that's nice as i post that i get an email from microsoft. more spyware or is this the update that's on the recent wave 4 stuff?


Information about the upcoming Xbox Live Service Update
There will be a mandatory service update on November 17th, 2009. The update will occur automatically when you start your Xbox 360 video game and entertainment system. Read on to find out what you'll have access to on November 17th.

http://www.xbox.com/en-us/live/update
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Kommando




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2009 18:14    Post subject:
That update is to activate facebook and twitter but maybe theres something else hidding in it
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armando99
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2009 18:36    Post subject:
me also banned. will sell it and keep the hdd and buy an arcade

screw u m$ i will flash my new arcade also and fuck urrrr mothers
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2009 19:14    Post subject:
Anyone seen the latest round of bullshit? "C4EVA Unban DVD" followed by the obligatory "PROOF!! IT WORKZ!!!" videos on Youtube Laughing

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armando99
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2009 19:29    Post subject:
lol..how idiots
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manu_xl




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2009 19:42    Post subject:
no way... it works Smile
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Ihump4nfos
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2009 20:07    Post subject:
it works...it unbanned my banned console, and banned my unbanned console...


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2009 20:14    Post subject:
*coughbullshitcough*
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2009 20:23    Post subject:
If only it were real..
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2009 20:30    Post subject:
If it were real, Microsoft would send a hitman after c4eva Laughing
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2009 20:34    Post subject:
What makes you think they haven't already? Cool Face
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RMFX




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2009 22:58    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
What makes you think they haven't already? Cool Face


He's still alive.
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felixen21




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2009 00:42    Post subject:
maybe he killed the hitman. How can you guys be certain it doesnt work? and for real, wont my saves work on a new xbox when my current one just got banned?
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killabyte




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2009 01:30    Post subject:
as long as didn't access those game saves on that banned xbox. they will only work on that console if you have.

you can pull your tag off live but it won't read those save files. that's what i was saying, somehow seems wrong for them to fuck with the save file, like altering personal data that they have no right to.
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javlar




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2009 02:45    Post subject:
Well I bought it now. Yet again. For some reason I thought they had missed me cause I lasted this long and most people seemed to have been banned a week or so ago.

What really sucks is that I bought this new box pretty much only for Live!, decided to be as "safe" as I thought I could be with abgx and what not and three months later I get this Razz

Oh well, not like I didn't know the risks. Think I'll buy yet another console and keep it legit for the few games I do want to play online like MW2.



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sid1608




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2009 02:56    Post subject:
im curious has anyone gotten there modded console banned that has never played a game online, or played a game before its release date then signed online to get dlc?

also if u have a game installed to the hard drive and u sign on it shows the date the game was installed on the hard drive. it might also log the times it was played.

im thinking thats why i was banned because i never played online but i did sign in with games installed to the hard drive that were installed before they were released. i just like to get dlc.

im wondering if u use a different hdd to login and get dlc will i still get banned on my new hacked console? we dont know for sure if they can check the drive itself for the hacked firmware. even if u never put a game in it while online.
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deelix
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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2009 02:56    Post subject:
lol now I believe those 600k-1mill bans in the other thread, one of my uuuber careful friends also got banned Cool Face
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FroggerFragger




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2009 10:12    Post subject:
They seem to be really serious this time. Wave 5 now wave 6 will be there very shortly ...

// Wonder why they waited this long to sort it out.
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Glottis
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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2009 10:40    Post subject:
FroggerFragger wrote:
They seem to be really serious this time. Wave 5 now wave 6 will be there very shortly ...

// Wonder why they waited this long to sort it out.

waves are not protections, simply xbox updates put on game disc. we wouldn't even be talking about them if ixtreme didn't check them. New ixtreme LT won't care for any waves.


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felixen21




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2009 13:54    Post subject:
Is it still unknown how they detect modded consoles? It's funny that nobody have tried finding out by using a few consoles differently. For instance it would be interesting if somebody had a modded console that had NEVER had a backup game in it and only played originals and see what happened.

Also, its the drive they detect being modded, right? And the drive has a unique ID? if thats the case then why cant people just change the drive? I'm guessing because the 360s serial number gets banned too but Im not sure
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defre




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2009 14:07    Post subject:
And yes , always survived the ban waves (think 3 years now ). But this time ...
Just wanted play modern warfare 2 , tried to login on my account , and i get " this console has been banned for violations of the terms of use. To protect the xbox live service and its members microsoft does not provide details about console bans. There is no recourse for terms of use violations .


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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2009 15:00    Post subject:
Microsft thinks they are gods now,
I will buy a 360 and Pirate their games,the "Hell and back"
what they are gonna do?,ban Me? Laughing
I will just not use Live Very Happy
I have my PC for online Gaming anyway,and most of the worthable online games
are coming to PC already.


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linnx88




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2009 15:49    Post subject:
felixen21 wrote:
Is it still unknown how they detect modded consoles? It's funny that nobody have tried finding out by using a few consoles differently. For instance it would be interesting if somebody had a modded console that had NEVER had a backup game in it and only played originals and see what happened.

Also, its the drive they detect being modded, right? And the drive has a unique ID? if thats the case then why cant people just change the drive? I'm guessing because the 360s serial number gets banned too but Im not sure


C4Eva released a statement saying that he did just that and has 3 360s running under different config and he didn't get 1 of them banned. C4 says that his biggest suspicion is that people used pre-released P2P game releases and/or used abgx360 incorrectly (like not setting the autofix level to 3, etc).

I haven't gotten banned and I played all these games recently with ix1.6 on live: DAO,Forza 3, Halo 3, Tekken 5, Borderlands, MW2.

Make proper backups, don't use p2p, know how to use abgx360, DO NOT PLAY pre-release games on Live[/b]

c4e also said that he's working on iXtreme Lite Touch FW, NO ETA, but the most exciting feature is the absolute undetectability of it, c4e claims. Can't wait Smile, until then i'm using activate.iso in offline mode and then turn to live once i'm in the game already, game running off of HD.


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dangerouseddy




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2009 15:53    Post subject:
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[?????] <+c4eva> ixtreme LT is coming along nicely, it has been a GREAT day! hang in there!
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[12:57am] <+c4eva> ixtreme LT does not care about waves, as per orig fw
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[1:01am] <+c4eva> LT will assume disk has correct stealth!
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[1:01am] <LinkK> MS will be able to detect LT also
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[1:02am] <+c4eva> linnk:no!
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[1:05am] <+c4eva> behaviour of ixtreme is detectable on backups!
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[1:07am] <Major> Back to Xtreme, Xtreme 5.4?
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[1:06am] <+c4eva> xtreme wont help!
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[1:08am] <+c4eva> i cant say any more for obvious reasons!


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linnx88




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2009 15:59    Post subject:
[quote="dangerouseddy"
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Hmm c4e didn't say 1.6 iXtreme is detectable on live....this is new, is there confirmation that all Ixtremes are detectable on Live when playing good backups?
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