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| Cheez-It wrote: | Consoles will always be short of PC's. Occasionally, they will debut at a comparable performance level, but arguably never ahead. After this, they just stay the same, and the morons who were jumping up and down claiming consoles are better (performance wise) sit their asses down.
In the future, (now in fact) they care coming closer and closer to acting as PC's (not vice versa). The death of the console will be the release of MRAM, or some sort of RAM that can store memory without power, allowing instant boots. When this happens, there will be no advantage to console games.
PS: If you don't like a keyboard/mouse, GET A CONTROLLER.
PC's are the best, and I believe they always will be. but wait! Apparently this "cell" chip is coming out from sony! oh wait, that's in months and months. And if it does what they say it can, then getting the console will be like getting a decent computer... that you can't upgrade. They will be continuing to develop this chip so why restrict yourself to its slowest incarnation. People people...
I hate the rabid console fans who tell me all about the specs of the upcoming consoles. how they're going to blow PC's out of the water... as if they even know what the specs mean and as if PC gamers don't know what they are. idiots. |
Well when the playstation 3 comes out it's processor will be comparable to the PC processors of the time. That, coupled with the fact that all consoles are capable of graphics way beyond a PC of comparable specification will mean the graphics will be fantasmogorical!
Don't get me wrong, I love PC's and have an up to date computer, but I like all good games, console titles included. I'll be looking forward to the future consoles.
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 00:33 Post subject: |
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| woozap wrote: | hey xbox media center is the first step to get 1 system to control the entire house.
Like the 'lights on' in Demolition Man. Your xbox media center will eventually be able to make coffee when you come home on demand. Its the 'easy to use package for people who dont like pc's or hate to spend alot of time to play games on a pc smoothly'. The reason why people use the console is because its so easy to use, you see alot of examples already in this thread. (i dont need to configure the game etc etc)
Some ppl think its only for console games, the xbox and the next generation xbox will be used for alot more then only console... mark my words thats the future vision of bill gates and companions. And Guess what, its again microsoft getting the monopoly on that!  you get neat TV's, lights, aquariums etc which are only compatible with the microsoft media centre if they have a MICROSOFT CERTIFICATION of authencity rofl. we'll be fucked..
So yes, eventually the console will become more important then the PC. Not because the PC is not able to handle it, but because of the simplicity of the console and the easy install.. |
man you gotta be kdding right? tell me you are please! thats the most freaktastic shit i've heard about consoles! lol man... see, how are you gonna control your house? with a gamepad? or a xbox HousePad? man i will have hard time sleeping tonight cause of this until u tell me its a joke!
whats ironic in your statement is that you say that xbox is for peoples that dont wanna configure it to play games and things... what you expect, an 'intelligent xbox' that you wont even have to do anything, just out of the box u plug it and u ask for a coffee??
make a search on google for DOMOTIC. thats what its called what you are trying to say... nothing for the xbox..... yet.... cmon!
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Cheez-It
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 01:32 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | Well when the playstation 3 comes out it's processor will be comparable to the PC processors of the time. That, coupled with the fact that all consoles are capable of graphics way beyond a PC of comparable specification will mean the graphics will be fantasmogorical!
Don't get me wrong, I love PC's and have an up to date computer, but I like all good games, console titles included. I'll be looking forward to the future consoles. |
Well, considering that the Xbox 2 is using the latest incarnation of whatever nvidia or ati is making (ati i think) they aren't ahead at all in graphics department! as for processing, it might be similar to a CPU of then, but the cell can supposedly be used in computers, in which case as it's developed more, the ps3 will be more and more out of date...
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 01:43 Post subject: |
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| Cheez-It wrote: | | AnimalMother wrote: | Well when the playstation 3 comes out it's processor will be comparable to the PC processors of the time. That, coupled with the fact that all consoles are capable of graphics way beyond a PC of comparable specification will mean the graphics will be fantasmogorical!
Don't get me wrong, I love PC's and have an up to date computer, but I like all good games, console titles included. I'll be looking forward to the future consoles. |
Well, considering that the Xbox 2 is using the latest incarnation of whatever nvidia or ati is making (ati i think) they aren't ahead at all in graphics department! as for processing, it might be similar to a CPU of then, but the cell can supposedly be used in computers, in which case as it's developed more, the ps3 will be more and more out of date... |
Well I don't know any of the specs for the xbox 2, but i'm guessing that will be mega powerful too. It was just an example of the type of power we can expect in the next generation consoles.
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 01:46 Post subject: |
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Ok console ppl can u play on any console on high resolution like 1600*or 1280*
guess what noooooooooooo,anything that below 1024* looks like crap don't forget AA & AF,i bet even so called NG consoles PS3,Xbox2 or whatever else comes out will NOT support those HZ & AA like PC do & don't forget that in europe console games cost 15% more than pc & u can't upgrade your console with new gfx if u see some fps dropes below 25, there is nothing u can do simply,thats why i got rid of my ps2 long time ago.try to play GTAVC on ps2 after playing it on middle range pc with 1024*+2AA u will know what i'm talkin about
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 02:02 Post subject: |
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the technical specifications of the console compared to the pc don't matter to most people. We geeks want the best specs for our games, most people want decent games to play.
Consoles as in media centers are going to take over. And just like your vcr, you don't want to wait while your media is powering up. So pc's as they are now, are out. People will want media centers because they are easy to use unlike configuring pc"s.
Xbox 2 is the next step in the MS circus and it will be able to do what xbox media center does now. More & more people will use media center to record tv programmes, play a game once in a while, connect to the net to download regular films or music etc...
The ease of use will be the key factor for their succes.
It is not a question if it will come, but when...
Sure, the pc does it all now as well, and does it better. But not as simple for the regular consumer. There you go
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 02:51 Post subject: |
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| winny wrote: | the technical specifications of the console compared to the pc don't matter to most people. We geeks want the best specs for our games, most people want decent games to play.
Consoles as in media centers are going to take over. And just like your vcr, you don't want to wait while your media is powering up. So pc's as they are now, are out. People will want media centers because they are easy to use unlike configuring pc"s.
Xbox 2 is the next step in the MS circus and it will be able to do what xbox media center does now. More & more people will use media center to record tv programmes, play a game once in a while, connect to the net to download regular films or music etc...
The ease of use will be the key factor for their succes.
It is not a question if it will come, but when...
Sure, the pc does it all now as well, and does it better. But not as simple for the regular consumer. There you go |
sorry but you're soooo wrong... lemme say that at 7, yeah 7 years old i started playing with computers and my dad that was 27 at that time had no idea what i was doing. At 13 i was doing some basic animations (basic as in basic and in basic language)... this was back in 1985. Now, its not weird to see a kid at 13 doing what i was doing at that time, not weird at all. Youre probably using a 5 buttons TV remote control, while i use one to control everything and it has like 25 buttons. I aint saying im better than you, no no, but what im telling is that in the future, OS will be EVEN MORE FRIENDLY and kids at age 5 will be able to do alot more than what 20 years old can do now. Kids of new generations arent going to have any problems doing what you consider a task.
and fyi, media center, as it is, its a LOT MORE closer to a computer than to a console my friend, ALOT. So saying that "pc's as they are now, are out. " is ridiculous. Think about it for a second man, what's the ultimate console for you? A PC. Cause in the end, CONSOLE are going down and media center as you call them (I use PC its shoter) are already there...
can you name one thing a console has that no PC has ?
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 02:58 Post subject: |
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So what you're telling us 'Glish' is that you've never had, and never will have, a life in the social sense.
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 02:58 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 03:03 Post subject: |
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Do you know the specifications of the Xbox 2?
It kicks the ass of current PC's.
It will have a 7-8 Ghz processor, a graphics card with a core speed of over 1ghz and probably RAM to match.
Now compare that to the current Xbox, and you can imagine the type of graphics it'll be capable of.
It's due out before the end of the year.
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 03:03 Post subject: |
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This war will never end like war between Palestina & Israel
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 03:12 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | So what you're telling us 'Glish' is that you've never had, and never will have, a life in the social sens. |
erm.. i'd like you to elaborate on this please? Do I sound like I'm anti-social? Maybe thats cause my primary language is french and you might heard things not the way i meant to say it...
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 03:14 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | Do you know the specifications of the Xbox 2?
It kicks the ass of current PC's.
It will have a 7-8 Ghz processor, a graphics card with a core speed of over 1ghz and probably RAM to match.
Now compare that to the current Xbox, and you can imagine the type of graphics it'll be capable of.
It's due out before the end of the year. |
you compare future with today man.... do you think technology evolves around console or around computers? rest assure, computers will ALWAYS be equal and most often faster than any EXISTING console
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 03:16 Post subject: |
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It doesn't really matter though, considering what the current generation of consoles are capable of with their pathetic specifications these new consoles should have mindblowing graphics.
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 03:23 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | Do you know the specifications of the Xbox 2?
It kicks the ass of current PC's.
It will have a 7-8 Ghz processor, a graphics card with a core speed of over 1ghz and probably RAM to match.
Now compare that to the current Xbox, and you can imagine the type of graphics it'll be capable of.
It's due out before the end of the year. |
lol dont believe everything you read on the internet is the first thing you should know buddy... those specs are fake (leaked). There havent been ANY disclosure from microsoft if its that its going to be a 3.5ghz intel cpu. Do you really think they can sell 7to8ghz for under 1000? wow there would be an awesome market for that
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 03:27 Post subject: |
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| - Glish - wrote: | | AnimalMother wrote: | Do you know the specifications of the Xbox 2?
It kicks the ass of current PC's.
It will have a 7-8 Ghz processor, a graphics card with a core speed of over 1ghz and probably RAM to match.
Now compare that to the current Xbox, and you can imagine the type of graphics it'll be capable of.
It's due out before the end of the year. |
lol dont believe everything you read on the internet is the first thing you should know buddy... those specs are fake (leaked). There havent been ANY disclosure from microsoft if its that its going to be a 3.5ghz intel cpu. Do you really think they can sell 7to8ghz for under 1000? wow there would be an awesome market for that |
Its a triple core 3.5ghz.
Well I wouldn't expect any less considering the playstation 3 will have a 4Ghz CPU, and I'm guessing microsoft will want to outdo them.
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 03:38 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | - Glish - wrote: | | AnimalMother wrote: | Do you know the specifications of the Xbox 2?
It kicks the ass of current PC's.
It will have a 7-8 Ghz processor, a graphics card with a core speed of over 1ghz and probably RAM to match.
Now compare that to the current Xbox, and you can imagine the type of graphics it'll be capable of.
It's due out before the end of the year. |
lol dont believe everything you read on the internet is the first thing you should know buddy... those specs are fake (leaked). There havent been ANY disclosure from microsoft if its that its going to be a 3.5ghz intel cpu. Do you really think they can sell 7to8ghz for under 1000? wow there would be an awesome market for that |
Its a triple core 3.5ghz.
Well I wouldn't expect any less considering the playstation 3 will have a 4Ghz CPU, and I'm guessing microsoft will want to outdo them. |
well i dont know what a triple core 3.5ghz is but the fastest clock speed i saw for the xbox 2 is 4ghz ; and it might be available only in 2006. By that time, im pretty confident in saying that there will be same speed cpu for PC.
i dont want to be seen as a "my father is stronger than yours", I was just stating my opinion on the future of the consoles...
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 06:48 Post subject: |
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I don't think power should be the issue, as someone said before the quality of the games is the biggest issue. Unfortunately for PC bound users like myself who don't have the extra money for a console, most of the best adventure, fighting and platform games are solely built for the console, as they aren't met with very much success on PC's (there is a smaller demographic of PC controller owning gamers)... Also Consoles have one set standard for hardware, resulting in developers maximizing the graphics (this is limited by the hardware, but you have to admit, you can't get a game that looks as nice as say... the gran turismos or some other graphically amazing games to run on the equivolent PC's... Anyways, I think there will always be consoles and PC's, up until we see the advent of instant-booting PC's, which is a long way off (Once this happens I predict that consoles will die out...
What I'm looking for in technology (asides from mere speed, not really in order)
1.) Wireless, intereference free video and audio
2.) Instant boot PC's
3.) global broadband (not cable or DSL, something between the speed of t3 and oc3 that would support streaming dvd quality movies).. accessible to anyone, with the cost and widespread use similar to the telephone today... this is a stretch 
and some more stuff that I can't get into because im late for sleep!
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 06:53 Post subject: |
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I don't understand why people are so quick to take sides in the PC vs. Console war. Honestly, if you can afford an expensive (i.e. gamer) pc, you should be able to afford a decent console too. I think everyone here made some good points...PC games generally look nicer and have games that can be modded, but consoles are more user-friendly and are more fun with friends around.
My own view is that PC gaming is dying simply because developers make more money by developing for consoles. Its cheaper and easier to develop for a console than a PC. The developers can even estimate what their user base will be with any given console, and its on a machine dedicated for gaming (whereas we all know that every PC is not a gaming PC). With that in mind, how long before most of the PC games have switched over to console, or are just console ports? When the Xbox 2 or PS3 come out, how many more of your typical PC games will switch over to the console market? As the games keep switching, how many of you will be willing to pay the big bucks to have a nice gaming PC when there are fewer and fewer games to play? That is the dilemma that gamers will face over the next several years.
When I have time, I enjoy both console and PC games but the handwriting is on the wall.
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| Posted: Wed, 9th Feb 2005 06:57 Post subject: |
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XBOX ALL THE WAY!!! (Good with FPS games when i have a mouse and keyboard connected)
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