Command & Conquer 4
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Dec 2009 09:07    Post subject:
wasnt it supposed to be different roles, i.e. attack, defense and support, each with its own stack of units ? Including the defense being able to build bases as usual ? At least wiki said so ^^
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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Dec 2009 15:49    Post subject:
There is. Support has nothing but air units, which makes it entirely shit as it can be countered by one type of unit. Defense has decent units, mostly zone troopers (as GDI, haven't played NOD defensive yet) and can build turrets. Offense has mostly just heavy ground units. Oh, and units take about 30 seconds to die when getting shot by their counter. There is also no such thing as money in this game, everything is free to produce.

It's pretty shitty in its current state.
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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Dec 2009 18:43    Post subject:
Does anyone have a key left?
I was too late as usual Sad
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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Dec 2009 19:30    Post subject:
It isn't based on keys, it ties to the email account you sign up on EA with (Then used in the game to "log in") although the EA site is reached via a identification key if you are accepted which can be visited once.
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Dec 2009 09:40    Post subject:
registration on gamespot is opened again
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Dec 2009 15:33    Post subject:
game is crap. nothing left of CnC ...
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Dec 2009 15:43    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
game is crap. nothing left of CnC ...

Well it's only multiplayer beta, and as we know pretty much all RTS games that aren't from blizzard are crap in multiplayer. Not saying that CnC4 will be great but at least I'll play single player for cheesy cutscenes Smile


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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Dec 2009 15:44    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
game is crap. nothing left of CnC ...


I agree. Beta is awful
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Dec 2009 19:35    Post subject:
Glottis wrote:
Sin317 wrote:
game is crap. nothing left of CnC ...

Well it's only multiplayer beta, and as we know pretty much all RTS games that aren't from blizzard are crap in multiplayer. Not saying that CnC4 will be great but at least I'll play single player for cheesy cutscenes Smile


Everything up to and including Generals were great RTS games, in multiplayer too. Also, saying that everything not made by blizzard is crap in mp is pretty fucking dumb.

But yeah, this game is pretty damn terrible. My first match I went into went like this:
Me: "So how do I build my Refinery?"
Teammate: "You don't."
Me: "Fuck This."
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Dec 2009 19:56    Post subject:
"you've got consolized, bitches"
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Dec 2009 20:01    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
Everything up to and including Generals were great RTS games, in multiplayer too. Also, saying that everything not made by blizzard is crap in mp is pretty fucking dumb.

Good thing I wasn't saying ALL RTS games not made by blizzard are bad in MP. Not knowing what "pretty much all" means is pretty dumb.

Also, just because you had played 10 or so matches in C&C Generals and had fun doesn't mean it's good, balanced and competitive RTS multiplayer. Is anyone still playing that? I doubt it. There are like 100k (not counting private servers) people playing WC3 and SC online every day for a reason.


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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Dec 2009 20:29    Post subject:
Glottis wrote:
dezztroy wrote:
Everything up to and including Generals were great RTS games, in multiplayer too. Also, saying that everything not made by blizzard is crap in mp is pretty fucking dumb.

Good thing I wasn't saying ALL RTS games not made by blizzard are bad in MP. Not knowing what "pretty much all" means is pretty dumb.

Also, just because you had played 10 or so matches in C&C Generals and had fun doesn't mean it's good, balanced and competitive RTS multiplayer. Is anyone still playing that? I doubt it. There are like 100k (not counting private servers) people playing WC3 and SC online every day for a reason.


Played hundreds of hours on Generals and I still enjoy the occasional match.

Anyways, arguing with the largest troll on this forum is no use.
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Dec 2009 20:45    Post subject:
Yes, because disagreeing with someone by using coherent arguments, logic and common sense is trolling. Copyright (c) 1995 - 2004 NFOrce Entertainment


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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Dec 2009 20:56    Post subject:
You're saying that your own personal preference of games is logic and common sense? Troll somewhere else.
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Dec 2009 21:38    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
You're saying that your own personal preference of games is logic and common sense? Troll somewhere else.

I was saying that pretty much all RTS games that aren't from blizzard are crap in multiplayer. Then you said you liked Generals multiplayer and called me a troll cos I didn't. Way to pull "iNatan" on me.


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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Dec 2009 21:54    Post subject:
Generals was and still is great, especially MP. Only bad thing was that back then the game would really slow down when many units were built. But it was an engine problem AFAIK.

I saw a presentation of this game, it lookes a bit consolised, but then at least they try something new.


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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Dec 2009 21:58    Post subject:
bringiton wrote:
Generals was and still is great, especially MP. Only bad thing was that back then the game would really slow down when many units were built. But it was an engine problem AFAIK.

I saw a presentation of this game, it lookes a bit consolised, but then at least they try something new.

Believe it or not this game is still using same old Generals (SAGE aka RNA) engine. 30 fps cap and all that, meh.


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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Dec 2009 04:34    Post subject:
its pretty obvious that it is still the same engine, modified sure, but you see it clearly. I agree tho, generals was awesome and it was the last CnC i fucking enjoyed 8(p wise) alltho for me, i never considered it a CNC game (because it wasnt in the cnc universe). Sure enjoyed MP tho, played for like 1-2 years in a competitive league, being in top 20 and several times top 10 in 1vs1 laddder (forget the name but it was the major ladder back then). CnC4 seems just to be some sort of "spam units slash capture the flag (tiberium) mess ... and quite frankly i enjoy R.U.S.E. way too much to give cnc4 any real attention ...


anyway, rts whores out there ... get a ruse invite !
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Dec 2009 10:26    Post subject:
no more keys at gamespot Sad


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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Dec 2009 16:21    Post subject:
Sin317, is it still possible to get keys for RUSE? I'd love to get a friend or two in it.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010 18:18    Post subject:
Epic, nice one thanks!
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once you tried it, you won't say epic anymore
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010 18:42    Post subject:
They revised it quite a bit in the latest beta I played. (RC10 or what it's name was.) now you rank up to get units and the game engine was overhauled a bit, haven't played much lately though so it might be different now.
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omg that site is layed down to the max Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010 19:21    Post subject:
I got a key but site is so busy you cant even do anything.


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 15:38    Post subject:
Just played for about 10 minutes and uninstalled it right away. What a piece of crap. This isnt C&C !! The whole idea is gone Sad

If they wanted to make a game like this, ffs don't call it C&C ... cause it isnt. Everything important to C&C is completly gone. No base building... no harvesting ... only some points to spawn all your units in one go not even with a building queue Sad

Pfff if i preordered this game i would feel raped after playing this shit...

Wtf is wrong with the people who design games ?? Didnt they play the old titles ?? Don't they understand where the real games are all about ??

I hope this isnt the new way of gaming cause i simply can't get used to it Sad
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 15:43    Post subject:
so it's closed to Ground Control which i liked, sounds interesting, gonna need to try it out
harvesting got kinda old anyway
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 16:12    Post subject:
Lathieza wrote:
Just played for about 10 minutes and uninstalled it right away. What a piece of crap. This isnt C&C !! The whole idea is gone Sad

If they wanted to make a game like this, ffs don't call it C&C ... cause it isnt. Everything important to C&C is completly gone. No base building... no harvesting ... only some points to spawn all your units in one go not even with a building queue Sad

Pfff if i preordered this game i would feel raped after playing this shit...

Wtf is wrong with the people who design games ?? Didnt they play the old titles ?? Don't they understand where the real games are all about ??

I hope this isnt the new way of gaming cause i simply can't get used to it Sad
Gaming is kinda dying on me .... allmost all games are a dissapointment lately
It's called mainstreaming or consoling, they don't have a keyboard so the less stuff to do on screen the better.
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