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nerrd
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 Posted: Fri, 8th Jan 2010 04:53 Post subject: Mobile AMD Turion 64 X2 idle temperature? |
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Working on a friends laptop. The idle core temp is @ around 67*C. Seems damn high to me. Anyone know what the idle temp should be for that cpu?
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Jan 2010 15:18 Post subject: |
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45 on desktop 58-67 when in stress
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Jan 2010 15:48 Post subject: |
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god knows it shouldn't be 67C!!
Change that thermal paste or see if the fan is even running.
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Jan 2010 16:00 Post subject: |
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for mobile amd it's ok, was reisntalling os on laptop with same cpu it was idling at 61-63
heck my c2d 1.6ghz idling at 55, laptops have reasonably crap cooling so don't expect much less, main problem of mobo and pretty much everything failing in a laptop
all those cooling pads are rubbish and useless just in case u want to get one
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nerrd
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Jan 2010 19:50 Post subject: |
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Alrite, tnx for input. I already took it apart, cleaned the fans and took the old thermal pad off. Will run out today to get some Arctic Silver and see if that helps.
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nerrd
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Jan 2010 00:08 Post subject: |
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Replaced the grease, cleaned the fans and everything around it. After about an hour of installing apps it crashed when it hit around 92C. Any suggestions how to remedy this? If it was a PC I would upgrade the cooling, but what the hell can I do his laptop?
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nerrd
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Jan 2010 04:18 Post subject: |
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The only reason I replaced the thermal compound was because the laptop was obviously running hot and it would crash frequently at above 90C. It had a very thin layer of solid silver film. Took time scraping it off and cleaning both the chip and heatsink. I couldn't get my hands on Arctic Silver since the closest store that has it for sure is about 30 miles away, but I did get something similar. I'm certain it's not a contact issue, since I made sure to apply a proper layer of the thermal greese and both cores seem to be running about 5C cooler. Also the fan is much more quiet since I cleaned it.
The only thing that I can think of is to try to speed up the fan using software, if possible, since the bios doesn't have any option to do that. Also perhaps I can throttle the cpu down permanently. Anything else? Those cooling pads suck? Never used one, since non of my laptops had any overheating issues ever. Anything else?
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Jan 2010 12:28 Post subject: |
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difference between ac and any other thermal grease will be couple degrees so it doesn't really matter what u use, about your current problem, i think it could be heatpipe not doing it's job right
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Jan 2010 12:40 Post subject: |
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try to get a thin copper plate. cut it, so that it fits the cpu and put it between the cpu and the cooler(with a very very thin layer of thermal paste).
Like one mentioned above, it seems that the cpu doesnt have proper contact with the cooler.
maybe that fixes your problem (most likely it will).
Its at least much better than using a pad.
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nerrd
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Jan 2010 00:54 Post subject: |
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I was thinking of modifying the whole cooling setup, but after couple of days tinkering with this thing I'm running out of will. Not my laptop, not my problem. I like the guy, but I've already put more effort into this laptop than worth my time. Tnx to everyone for your input.
btw. My final, although admittedly a ghetto solution, was to turn down the clock multiplier and make sure the air inflow isn't obstructed. Now its very stable at full cpu load.
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Jan 2010 00:59 Post subject: |
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lol you shouldn't be working on peoples hardware if you dunno what your doing.
If you accepted the task of fixing it then it's your problem.
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nerrd
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Jan 2010 01:05 Post subject: |
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Wait, wait a second. First of all, I'm doing this for free, for somebody I know. What I was supposed to do was to do a cleanup (backup, new window etc.) He never mentioned the frequent crashes untill I called him asking about it. If this was my job perhaps you would have a valid point. Second, don't try to make me look stupid since you don't have decent solution for this problem yourself. Anything else you would like to say?
Last edited by nerrd on Sun, 10th Jan 2010 01:07; edited 1 time in total
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Jan 2010 01:06 Post subject: |
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Ya, I don't mess around with what I don't know about. So back to my point, fix his laptop since you took on the responsibility.
How would you feel if you got head for free, but he did a lousy job at it cause it was just that...free.
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nerrd
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Jan 2010 01:07 Post subject: |
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Yeah, whatever. Tnx for nothing you dick.
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Jan 2010 01:08 Post subject: |
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I AM NOT A DICK
If you took a "pad" off and replaced with a thermal compound, your going to have to make up for the difference of thickness that pad once had. So either try the copper piece as stated above or have your acquaintance go get a new thermal pad.
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nerrd
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Jan 2010 01:41 Post subject: |
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| SpykeZ wrote: | | I AM NOT A DICK |
So stop acting like one.
| SpykeZ wrote: | | How would you feel if you got head for free, but he did a lousy job at it cause it was just that...free. |
I would feel great, a shitty BJ is better then no BJ, especially since its free. Unless he/she would render my dick useless, which is not the case.
Honestly man, I'm not trying to start anything, but that was a horrible analogy.
I'll give you another shitty one. How would you feel if you were starving and somebody gave you a free sandwich, although it wasn't tasting very good.
As mentioned before I don't think the contact is the issue. The heat pipe is sitting directly on the chip itself. I tried to squeeze a gap probe between the heatsink and the cpu and couldn't fit the thinnest part, around .2mm. So its pretty tight.
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nerrd
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Jan 2010 02:01 Post subject: |
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Gateway M-1624 Notebook, Mobile AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-60 (2GHz, Tyler). The whole fan heatsink/fan assambly is really poor compared to my other laptops. I wonder if the whole series doesn't have the same issue.
btw. like i said it was idling at around 67C, now after about 24 hours its in 43-46C range. So I didn't completly fuck this thing up.
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Jan 2010 02:05 Post subject: |
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well, google tells me your not the only one having such a problem with that model. Most send it back into gateway as it's still under warranty. My best advice is try to get it back to how it was stock but with a new thermal pad.
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nerrd
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Jan 2010 02:16 Post subject: |
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We'll see, I'll ask the guy what he wants do do with this thing. He seems content with the lower clock speed, since all he does is browse the net etc. But If hes willing to throw in a case of beer or two, I might try the copper plate/new pad. Either way, once again, I appreciate you trying to help.
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Jan 2010 02:28 Post subject: |
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good that multiplier actually unlocked, usually bios is locked in laptops
and lol@SpykeZ, usually if i take a free job i'm ether trying to fix the problem or send it to a pro, that is if it requires some serious soldeiring parts i don't have, i don't intend to jump over my head unless if it's someone close to me with the problem
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nerrd
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Jan 2010 02:51 Post subject: |
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Actually the cpu settings in the bios are locked. I have no intention on looking for custom bios, so a quick fix was to use Windows7 processor power management feature. Yes, ghetto, but works like a charm, taking down the multiplier from x10 to x8.
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