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 Posted: Sun, 27th Dec 2009 17:51 Post subject: |
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yeah ill look at it, but the whole point is the loader has just win7 on it 
i dont get why its asking if i want to run an older version of windows that dont even exist on my HD's anywhere...
just never seen it before..
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Dec 2009 18:02 Post subject: |
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Hm, now that Im ready to install W7, i just noticed that the NFO says "Install to unpartitioned space" - why is that important?
I got the Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Integrated OEM (2009-11)-BIE release.
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Dec 2009 18:03 Post subject: |
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You worry too much. Just install where you had your previous install, and it will even move all your previous files to C:\Windows.OLD.
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Dec 2009 19:53 Post subject: |
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Aaaand im done. I see no need to activate/use a loader though? No activation period is showing, and i've just downloaded 5 updates from Windows Update.
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Dec 2009 20:11 Post subject: |
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What you mean not showing?  Go into Computer Properties.
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Dec 2009 20:38 Post subject: |
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The .iso included a crack and it has been automatically applied. It says windows is activated.
| Quote: | Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Integrated October 2009 OEM DVD โโ
โโ (C)2009 Microsoft Corp. โโ
โโ โโ
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โโ โโ
โโ HowTo: โโ
โโ ------ โโ
โโ Extract Files โโ
โโ Burn Image to DVD โโ
โโ Boot from DVD โโ
โโ Install to unpartitioned space without serial โโ
โโ โโ
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โโ ... have fun! No Serial and no Activation needed! โโ
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โโ Notes: โโ
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โโ When UP2DATE was UP2DATE, your mom was UP2DATE me.... โโ
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โโ ....so for now my son, just STFU!!! โโ |
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Dec 2009 20:44 Post subject: |
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Yup, just as the Vista BIE release I used on my PC since 2007. No problems whatsoever.
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Dec 2009 20:55 Post subject: |
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Haha, didn't know. 
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| Posted: Tue, 29th Dec 2009 05:16 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Why do people hate Windows Vista so much ? Why has 7 done so much better?
On November 8th 2006Microsoft released Windows Vista the 6th Major release of the windows operating system to computer manufacturers globally. who at the time began offering it as an option on their computers alongside the 5 years mature Windows XP. Immediately Vistaโs โfirst impressionsโ began to destroy its reputation forever, by giving millions of people a horrible first experience.
Lack of affordable powerful hardware:
During this time RAM prices were higher than today and as a result a typical computer would be bought with 1gb of RAM, meaning that the increasingly popular budget computers were sold with just 512mb of RAM.
When windows Vista was designed Microsoft wanted to take advantage of the hardware accelerated graphics, and powerful components that were becoming more common in standard computers. However the budget computers of the time didnโt have these components.
As a result of its feature rich and innovative design Vista had become what many people would describe as bloaty, Windows XP is a much lighter operating system, it will run quite happily on just 512mb of RAM, where vista struggles even on 1gb of RAM and barley runs at all on 512mb. This alone isnโt a bad thing, and Microsoft are not to blame for innovating and looking to the future. However they should have set the minimum requirements to run the operating system much higher than they did.
So here is the first problem, the most commonly sold computers at the time which were bundled with Windows Vista were the cheaper ones which did not have nearly enough RAM or processing power, this caused millions of users worldwide great frustration, and all they could see to blame was โthat Vistaโ. Even the mid range ones didnโt run Vista to an impressive level, only the less popular high end expensive computers ran vista well, and even these had their problemsโฆ..
OEM Bundled Software
When OEMโs (Original Equipment Manufacturers) such as HP, Dell, Acer etc sell a pre configured laptop or desktop computer, they often bundle trials of paid software, or revenue generating software. Most commonly Mcafee Antivirus (30 or 90 day trial) Norton Antivirus (30 or 90 day Trial), Google Desktop and toolbar, Ask toolbar and many others. These applications arenโt just sat on the computer waiting to see if you want to use them , they are resident in your precious and sparse RAM as soon as your computer boots, grinding your already poorly performing brand new (in 2006) Vista computer to a halt. the incentive for the OEMโs is that if and when you activate that trial software into a paid subscription (which happens all to often) they get a cut of the sale. also because you are running google desktop and google toolbar, ask toolbar and possibly others, the OEM generates revenue from your searches. It does allow them to sell the computers cheaper, initially saving the end user money, which is attractive, but once again contributing to the end users poor Windows Vista experience.
Mis Educated Upgraders
In January 2007 Microsoft put Windows Vista and Windows Vista Upgrade retail boxes on the shelves worldwide, this caused a flurry of early adapters to go out and purchase Vista for their current machine running Windows XP. the minimum requirements for Windows Vista is an 800mhz CPU, 512mb of RAM and a 20gb Hard Drive. this is by Microsoftโs specification and is very low, whilst Windows XP would run fairly nimble on a machine of this specification, Vista would run at a crawl. some of these upgraders had 3-4 year old machines built in 2003 and they were going out buying Vista upgrade and installing it. they got a terrible experience of the OS and as it wasnโt cheap they made sure they told everyone just how poor Vista was, when realistically their view of the OS was jaded by their hardware limitations.
Bad Initial Driver Support
In 2006 a lot of hardware manufacturers werenโt interested in making their hardware work on Windows Vista (32 or 64 bit), and most of the ones that did only made a tiny effort to make them work, meaning the hardware functioned much better in XP than it did in vista. an example of this is the very popular Creative Labs Audigy2 Sound card. It is popular because of its brilliant sound quality compared with other cards, however for someone moving from XP to Vista this was nto the case. Creative took months to release any kind of driver at all, and when they eventually did it was very poor with crackly sound and none of the configurable features the XP driver had.
Initial Bugs
Unlike Windows XP (a derivative of 2000 and NT) the majority of Windows Vista was brand new, and brand new developed software will have glitches and bugs.
Extensive beta testing was carried out before the final release of Vista, but some little problems slipped through to damage its first impressions on users, and these users shouted about it.
The biggest problem in my opinion which could only be blamed on the OS itself was the file reading / writing speed bug. There was some kind of bottleneck which reduced the speed files were written to and read from discs massively. This effected how the whole machine ran, and made the OS feel bogged down, it meant copying files from one drive to another was a very long winded job. This bug was so prominent that people were replacing the file copy function of vista with third party software called Terracopy. You can read more about this here.
This bug was eventually fixed witha hot fix issued from Microsoft in March 2007, however this had to be manually installed, it was not automatically fixed until Service Pack 1 in February 2008, 16 months after vista reached the public.
Vista Today, The Conclusion
Windows Vista is over 3 years old, it is a mature operating system, well tested, well used and well patched. On March 5th 2009 Vista service Pack 2 was released, compared with the original RTM the OS is very stable, and if installed on modern hardware, even modern budget hardware which is much better than the budget hardware of 2006, then it runs quick and efficient. Hardware support is improved as manufacturers have found the time to develop good drivers.
However the damage is done. Vistaโs reputation is ruined by its first 12-18 months of existance, being ran by miseducatedusers on poor hardware, being swamped with crapware by the OEMโs and having unpatched bugs for months on end has frustrated plenty of people and the outdated but unmovable opinion I hear every day is โthat Vista is a load of rubbish isnt itโ
The more recent Windows 7 which is built on Vista seems to be having a better run, but then it has noneof the barriers Vista had, its built as an improvement on already mature software, and is released in a market with much more powerful hardware available cheaply, unfortunately the OEM crapware problem still does reard its ugly head quite often though. |
http://www.yourlocalcomputerguy.co.uk/blog/2009/12/why-do-people-hate-windows-vista-so-much-why-has-7-done-so-much-better/
"Why do people hate Windows Vista so much ? Why has 7 done so much better?"
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| Posted: Tue, 29th Dec 2009 05:42 Post subject: |
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Excellent read, thank you. I also happen to agree with pretty much everything. I guess that's why my Vista experience were far better than most people's; even back in 2006 I had a PC that was considerably above-average, so I never felt the supposed "bloated" nature of Vista. Sure the file copy bug was horrific (damn, something like that should NEVER have gotten passed QA) and the file transfer dialogue was borked .. but the OS on the whole? An amazing experience, one I thoroughly enjoyed for 2 years before Win7 came along.
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| Posted: Tue, 29th Dec 2009 11:28 Post subject: |
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Lame. The excuses are that people had bad hardware and a lot of bugs. While I have to agree that Vista really had some annoying bugs, SP1 for Vista pretty much fixed the most important ones. And my hardware is the same for >4 years. But Vista didn't perform well, but Win7 does.
In this article they just try to blame the users which did not like vista instead of blaming the os for having such a shitty performance and usability.
7 is the better vista. The only one that I would like to use
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Jan 2010 13:00 Post subject: |
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Does the loader affects windows performance?
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Jan 2010 13:53 Post subject: |
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| streetunder wrote: | | Does the loader affects windows performance? |
Nope, it's just a modified boot sector that's all.
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Jan 2010 15:08 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | streetunder wrote: | | Does the loader affects windows performance? |
Nope, it's just a modified boot sector that's all. |
Nice.
Thanks for the answer.
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Jan 2010 17:05 Post subject: |
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Should I make the move and upgrade from XP to 7? XP so far has been running fine..since I reinstalled few months ago. I hate to format until I get some fatal error/virus which I tend to get often. I also hate to reinstall all my games including MW2.. Should I just take the plunge? I have all my apps/games on harddrive anyway for easy re-install so I have the process down pat. Just want to make sure its worth the few hours of my life. Running E6550 chip, Dual Core- so installing the 64BIT version supposedly would be beneficial to me.
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Jan 2010 18:04 Post subject: |
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@NecroViolator
85hz is moooore than enough, get serious. The problem must be something else.
@todd72173
Well, I used to be a XP fanboi, but Win7 x64 rocks.
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Jan 2010 18:55 Post subject: |
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| NecroViolator wrote: | OMG !!!
85 Hertz only ???
Damn picture is SO blurry it looks like I put on someones glasses...
Any way to change this ???
Ive googled but couldnt find a dang thing about it...
Anyone know ???
(Dont feel like skimming through 71 pages, sorry)...
OMFG !!!
I just "uninstalled CPU Meter" in the Gadgets... How do I get that back ???
Thought that was to remove from Desktop... |
get coretemp + it's sidebar gadget, it's hell of a lot better as it does the same thing, but shows a lot more information as well. |
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Jan 2010 19:33 Post subject: |
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Hey Mates,
i just came home from work to find a blank (black) dekstop and the bottem right corner sais:
windows 7
Build 7600
This copy of Windows in not genuine
plus i get pop ups saying i dont have a genuine windows and to go online to fi it.
untill now ive been getting updates no problem.. im using :
Microsoft.Windows.7.ULTIMATE.x64.Integrated.October.2009.OEM.DVD-BIE
anyone have any sugguestions??
Cheers
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Jan 2010 20:02 Post subject: |
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| todd72173 wrote: | | Should I make the move and upgrade from XP to 7? XP so far has been running fine..since I reinstalled few months ago. I hate to format until I get some fatal error/virus which I tend to get often. I also hate to reinstall all my games including MW2.. Should I just take the plunge? I have all my apps/games on harddrive anyway for easy re-install so I have the process down pat. Just want to make sure its worth the few hours of my life. Running E6550 chip, Dual Core- so installing the 64BIT version supposedly would be beneficial to me. |
Not should you, but why haven't you already??
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Jan 2010 20:03 Post subject: |
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Ok..OK. Im downloading all my apps to the latest 64-bit versions,. You've convinced me..
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Jan 2010 20:10 Post subject: |
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you know, the 32 bit versions of them work just aswell on a 64 bit OS ^^
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Jan 2010 20:15 Post subject: |
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Did not know that.
Im also grabbing the windows7 version (as opposed to XP versions). Does that make a difference any too?
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Jan 2010 20:21 Post subject: |
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Use the latest versions, and x64 if available. The 32bit proggies work fine, too.
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Jan 2010 20:39 Post subject: |
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I had installed the original loader(made by some 12 yr old) for windows7 back in July and worked.
I remember it installed a 'system reserve partition' - and I then deleted it. Do I still have to delete this system reserve partition with the latest BIE release?
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Vista + SP2 very rarely gave me problems.
