Stuttering movies whilst browsing.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010 14:17    Post subject: Stuttering movies whilst browsing.
Ok, this has been bugging me for a few days now and I haven't got a goddamn clue what's happening or why, but for the last few days my movies have been stuttering to fuck whenever I'm browsing the net at the same time. Scrolling pages, clicking links, etc all cause the film to hitch and hiccup for a second. It stops once I stop clicking stuff.

I'm using MPC-HC (x86 1.3.1489, but it also did it on my old 1.2.1008 version too. Using the x86 version because I remember having issues on the older x64 ones) on Win7-x64. I know for damned sure it's not my proc (E7200 @ 3.6Ghz) so what the hell is it? Sad

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NVM. I think I just figured it out! I opened up taskmanager whilst I was playing/browsing, just to see if clicking links caused CPU spikes. It did, but only on the 2nd core (Core1) - so, on a whim, decided to check to make sure Chrome was running on both cores.

Don't ask me how because I sure as fuck don't know, but Chrome was only running on Core1. Grrrrrr. Set the affinity back to both and now the stutter has gone Very Happy

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.... FML? I just checked and EVERY SINGLE application loaded is set to run on Core1 only. How in the goddamn hell did THAT happen!?
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010 14:36    Post subject:
7 is fucking with u Cool Face
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010 14:40    Post subject:
Certainly seems that way Sad A quick reboot later and everything back to normal, all processes back using both cores, no more stutter with MPC-HC or anything. What the shit caused everything to lock to one core in the first place? :\
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010 15:20    Post subject:
affinity is inherited from parent
so if you for one reason or another set a process to cpu1 and then launched chrome and mpc from it (like by opening .avi or .html files) they will be on cpu1 aswell
have you run any apps that might claim 'optimization' or such nonsense? or done any deeper compatibility mode stuff that might try to counteract multiprocessing bugs?
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010 15:29    Post subject:
No, I never use that snake-oil bullshit. I knew about the parent affinity, but the thing is; EVERY process was set to Core1 only, and not both cores. I checked each and every one, it didn't matter what it was, it was set to Core1 only.

Damned weird :/
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010 15:32    Post subject:
Did you by mistake put the Explorer process to 1 affinity?
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010 15:37    Post subject:
how do you, accidently, set a process to 1 affinity?


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010 15:40    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Did you by mistake put the Explorer process to 1 affinity?


*laughs* No, I assure you I did not Razz Very Happy

Seriously, it's the damnedest thing I've ever seen. Each and every single process; set to Core1 affinity. Nothing else.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Jan 2010 19:29    Post subject:
one way i can think of by 'accident' would be to use a hacked together compatibility patch like they have for older games made by some cowboy who didn't know what he was doing
fixes the game and everything still works.. mostly...
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 00:57    Post subject:
I'm having the same problem the last couple of days Sad

I just putted on a different player... i normally also use MP HC 64b.... and it improved a bit.

Funny that i see your post now cause i didnt pay really attention it but now i read this maybe it's a windows update whats fucking up Sad
My computer got 2 upgrades the last couple of days....

Edit ... off course i didnt read you edit before i posted Very Happy
Checked my processes and all on single core Scratch Head .... weird.
I'm also using w7 64b and my computer runs 24/7 ... the only thing what restarted my computer twice the last couple of days where the windows updates (still forgot that option off). Restarting my computer now to see if it's still single core

Edit 2 Lol... problem gone Very Happy ... it has to do with the windows updates or my windows doesnt wake up that well after it fall asleep.

Let me know Sabin if you used the updates or using the sleep mode a lot cause i would like to know the cause.


Empty again Sad
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 04:23    Post subject:
Same thing here! I JUST had a critical Windows update day before yesterday, I didn't reboot for a while, and had that weird 1core only thing. After a reboot, it was gone and everything was back to normal.

So yeah, the only thing I can think of - because it happened to BOTH of us (too goddamn coincidental) was the Windows updates.
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 16:37    Post subject:
It's back again Sad

Noticed an episode of Outer Limits stuttering and pausing whenever I used the net, so I checked... and every single app and process is back to using Core1 only (instead of both, or Core0+Core1)

What in the blue fuck is going on????
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 17:14    Post subject:
I have Windows Update pending a restart for 3 days now. No problems. Confused
Even encoded a video in the morning. 100% CPU.
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 22:45    Post subject:
just shut down the windows update service and it won't nag you anymore
it'll reappear on your next startup
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 05:20    Post subject:
It's not a Windows update. That's all done now, this "only on Core 1" just started happening again right out of the blue Sad

FFS.
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 06:12    Post subject:
When all else fails, do the usual. Reinstall Windows. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 06:14    Post subject:
What bugs is me is that I can't find anyone else via Google that is having the same issue. Why on earth would Windows, seemingly at completely random times, suddenly set each and every process to use only one core.

The only thing I can think of is that one of my cores is dying, but if that was the case; surely the machine would be exhibiting some sort of issues? :\
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 09:25    Post subject:
I FOUND IT! I found out what's causing it; VENETICA! Very Happy

Every time I load Venetica, my entire machine gets locked into using only one core (could explain the poor performance of the game too...) and the only way to recover back to full functionality is to reboot the machine.

http://www.screentoaster.com/watch/stWUNdQkZIR19bSFldWl9cX1Zc/venetica_causes_issues_with_dual_core_processors
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 09:57    Post subject:
one ctrl-c and ctrl-v later I realize that's some nerdy crap Wink


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 09:58    Post subject:
I recorded a vid using ScreenToaster (god that app is crap.. Java is the devil!!!) See my edit above. Bloody game Sad
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 11:02    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I FOUND IT! I found out what's causing it; VENETICA! Very Happy

Every time I load Venetica, my entire machine gets locked into using only one core (could explain the poor performance of the game too...) and the only way to recover back to full functionality is to reboot the machine.

http://www.screentoaster.com/watch/stWUNdQkZIR19bSFldWl9cX1Zc/venetica_causes_issues_with_dual_core_processors


LOL... well that explains a lot since i also have venetica Wink

Thanks for searching ... saves me some trouble later on Very Happy
As i said in the venetica thread i keep the game on hold for the moment ... but i'll keep this in mind. Did you try to run venetica on dual cores ?? Did it improve ?

Cheers
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 11:14    Post subject:
No, because sadly the game crashes if you alt-tab (it taskswitches just fine, but going BACK to it gives nothing but a black screen with a flickering mouse cursor)
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 14:31    Post subject:
What a piece of shit. Now that's what I call worst piece of software in years. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 14:33    Post subject:
German and Russian coders mate, they SERIOUSLY screw shit up. They make great games, but absolutely SUCK at the execution and coding. No biggie, I'm about 2 maybe 3 hours off finishing the game anyway =)
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 14:38    Post subject:
crappy crack?
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 14:43    Post subject:
Did you use that "hack" patch for it?
(Might be worth trying.)

http://forum.dtp-entertainment.com/viewtopic.php?f=207&t=13992
http://forum.dtp-entertainment.com/viewtopic.php?f=207&t=14316
(First one, second one is more of a small script fixer.)
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Jan 2010 15:01    Post subject:
Yes, it's the multicore "patch" I'm using. It increased framerate by about 5-10, depending on the scene ... and yes, I tried it without the hack too and still got the Core1 glitch.
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