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LeoNatan
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Feb 2010 15:34    Post subject:
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Is it really that dumbed down

Hasn't this been evident from the start, though?
They were looking for a quick buck, and decided Big Daddy and plasmids were the most iconic things people remember from the first game, so there you play as Big Daddy with plasmids, as if Big Daddy alone is not overpowered already. But there is a problem, splicers are weak. So we make it more action oriented. Still something missing. Yeah, OK, Big Sisters will now hunt the Big Daddies. Let's also throw totally out of place MP and have the complete package.
The original wasn't anything unique in gameplay, but at least it had good ideas behind it and atmosphere was fantastic. The art design and the story was what made it unique. Take away most of that and you are left with a silly shooter. Ken Levine was criticized for doing this and that with Irrational, but at least his art direction made BioShock a good game despite its flaws. Here he is greatly missed.

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Compare this:

With the first game's introduction. Just listening to the crap the guy says is enough to see what they wanted with this game.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Feb 2010 15:47    Post subject:
Well Oxm gave it a 9.5 Official Xbox Magazine

BioShock 2 isn't a groundbreaking follow-up that rewrites all the rules laid down by its predecessor. No, think of it as a sequel that fills in the gaps, adding exciting new dimensions to what's come before... You will be utterly absorbed. [Mar 2010, p.68]

More of the same which is good enough for me.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Feb 2010 15:58    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:

The original wasn't anything unique in gameplay, but at least it had good ideas behind it and atmosphere was fantastic. The art design and the story was what made it unique. Take away most of that and you are left with a silly shooter.


My feelings exactly. And as I said, it held up enough halfway through, then it became more of apretty game to look, but not very interesting to play. IMO.

Similar with ME2, ugh...


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Feb 2010 16:40    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Deadpool66 wrote:
Is it really that dumbed down

Hasn't this been evident from the start, though?
They were looking for a quick buck, and decided Big Daddy and plasmids were the most iconic things people remember from the first game, so there you play as Big Daddy with plasmids, as if Big Daddy alone is not overpowered already. But there is a problem, splicers are weak. So we make it more action oriented. Still something missing. Yeah, OK, Big Sisters will now hunt the Big Daddies. Let's also throw totally out of place MP and have the complete package.
The original wasn't anything unique in gameplay, but at least it had good ideas behind it and atmosphere was fantastic. The art design and the story was what made it unique. Take away most of that and you are left with a silly shooter. Ken Levine was criticized for doing this and that with Irrational, but at least his art direction made BioShock a good game despite its flaws. Here he is greatly missed.

Edit:

Compare this:

With the first game's introduction. Just listening to the crap the guy says is enough to see what they wanted with this game.
Well, even tho the MP is out of no where it looks like decent fun People should stop complaining, play the games and stfu. People that don't pay for games that is Cool Face
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Feb 2010 16:45    Post subject:
Ah yes, the tired dumb old argument, "if you didn't buy it, can't criticize it". Rolling Eyes

Some of us have standards you know, like to spend out time better than playing every game out. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Feb 2010 17:05    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Ah yes, the tired dumb old argument, "if you didn't buy it, can't criticize it". Rolling Eyes

Some of us have standards you know, like to spend out time better than playing every game out. Laughing
Indeed, im pretty sure its against Israeli law as well!
Standards... pfft, stop being so precious Leo Razz Life is short, and we all know playing lots of game is the only real purpose in life Cool Face
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Feb 2010 17:21    Post subject:
The game looks cool Im sure it will help pass the time until god of war at the very least. The fact is now games cost hundreds of millions dollars to make. So in order to make money back and continue making games it has to apeal to wider audiences. I know many people whom wont play a game if its even slighlty complicated which leads devs dumbing them down for all of the whiners which there are many. Now for me I grew up playing pc games that had the steepest of learning curves fa18 hornet, zork, Fallout, Marathon, Privateer, kings quest and so forth. Heres the way I see it the seasoned veterans like myself and othesr yearn for somthing akin to the heyday of gameing where there were independent studios willing to try new things and or cater to their hardcore audience ignoring the mainstream.

To backup my claim take mass effect 2 for example becuase of people complaing they removed the mako and most of the rpg elements its a great game but could have been even better had they not fucked with the formula.

Just my opinion now where is Bioshock Im bored.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Feb 2010 17:33    Post subject:
hmm, if you haven't completed dantes yet, do so
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Feb 2010 17:34    Post subject:
Cant beat lucifer is there a trick to it? I can get his second form half down and then I die. Doesnt help that my character is holy and he deflects most the crosses back onto me.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Feb 2010 17:35    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
hmm, if you haven't completed dantes yet, do so


Which means? you've seen a release?
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Feb 2010 17:45    Post subject:
m0dm0use wrote:
deelix wrote:
hmm, if you haven't completed dantes yet, do so


Which means? you've seen a release?
We all have Dantes Inferno XBOX360-STRANGE, you been in a cave the last day or something? Very Happy

already completed it tho :/
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Feb 2010 17:48    Post subject:
This topic is Bioshock 2 I think you've got a bit confused.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Feb 2010 17:52    Post subject:
Lol, Deelix has been in the alter nfohump world where Dantes Inferno has not been released but Bioshock 2 has (pats him on the head and goes "there there")


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Feb 2010 18:29    Post subject:
segobi wrote:
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/928/125pj.jpg


He aint got the connection to upload it


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Feb 2010 18:31    Post subject:
Deadpool66 wrote:
Spiderman wrote:
WaldoJ wrote:
whats so special about bioshock 2? i played bits of the first one and it didn't entice me to play more. Sad should i play it?
people thought bioshock was the spiritual successor to System Shock ... but when they played it they saw the dumb down streamlines that came from consoles "you don't need your brain to have fun", some still in shock tried to pull them selfs together to find something that would classify this game as fun ""um um um i thinks the story is um um um the story keeps me playing this turd Sad" and some where left with a bitter after taste , others became mad about only 3 activations of securom on the PC that made your bought dvd a frisbee

and now Bioshock 2 well in the way like Yathzee would call it its now ummgmumgm "rips his throat by saying this" cinematic streamlined experience , lest story more action , less pipeline mini game replaced by yeah streamlines , forced multiplayer just to have support from Sony or Microsoft , ai is now well less retarded but now this game became more retarded then ever ... more closed rooms with spawning creatures ... atlest now you can dual weld and walk under water


Wow after reading this its like Im not even excited anymore. Is it really that dumbed down Spiderman? you have been playing the game correct?
I have played the Ps3 German Censored version , it still was the unfinished product so we kinda didn't noted it by the glitchiness ... thats how reviews are made today , so mostly the score was unfairly high - 87% (would be 56% after this game crashed our 6 ps3 that we tested it on , constant no clipping error on the enemies and other bugging things ).We will make a another review when we get the finished product for now its on our Beta/preview pages.
Its mostly now the story of a Alpha dady and Tannenbaum with a twist in the middle Laughing and in the end , more decisions that impact on the story ark , now with added forced closed battle stages when you get adam ... its hmmm like Mass Effect 2 its still a great game but not by "IQ" standards all that was there lest say any rpg element any other thing that stopped the action for one moment to enjoy the environment has been removed ... now its more like action action get sister get adam action action etc.. it never stops yes it does feel fine but you get a biter after taste when the monotony starts kicking in
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Feb 2010 18:34    Post subject:
rofl whys he put my name on there I haven't even got the game Sad wtf
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Feb 2010 18:46    Post subject:
lolzcakes the fbiz0r will get youz now m0d


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Feb 2010 18:51    Post subject:
lol the po po are coming lol Razz
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Feb 2010 23:42    Post subject:
BioShock.2.PAL.XBOX360-DNL
NOT RF


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Feb 2010 23:57    Post subject:
Region Free???
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 00:06    Post subject:
ready to play in the morning Very Happy !
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 00:14    Post subject:
rf or not? stuck with an ntsc box here...


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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 00:19    Post subject:
Suppose it doesnt matter for us xbr owners wether its rf?
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 00:22    Post subject:
Is this a continuation of part 1 or completely different story?
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 00:22    Post subject:
The nfo says nothing about region coding so I'd assume (perhaps incorrectly) thats its region locked...

nfo.
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 00:33    Post subject:
http://www.abgx.net/filename/?ch=6&bin_search_type=folder&bin_max_results=50&bin_search=dnl&bin_search_results=0&x=0&y=0

Probably RF!

Huge history of saying PAL yet Y Y Y for each region anyway im in PAL land
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 00:35    Post subject:
Just downloaded and it's REGION LOCKED to PAL only. Well my XBox 360 is PAL anyway but sorry for you guys.
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 00:41    Post subject:
its too bad it might be a week before we see a bioshock 2 NTSC release
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 00:45    Post subject:
I'm not in the habit of making shit up...ffs
and you should know better chunk!
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