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Posted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 01:11 Post subject: |
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IMO this game is terribly executed. What the hell is with the controls? It is really uncomfortable to try to maneuver the alien and the mouse speed is shit. I am truly disappointed. Please someone let me know if the actual game changes from this or else I definitely wont be buying...
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Posted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 01:37 Post subject: |
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iNatan wrote: | m3th0d2008 wrote: | dezztroy wrote: | So I've heard that this is the same build from E3 2009. |
Jep, I've read that too on some forums. Several people are confirming that this is the same version they played at the E3. |
Jesus, that old? What were they thinking, ffs!? |
Come to think about it. I think Rebellion may actually be hurting their sales because of this demo, better to get no press than to get a Tsunami of bad Press I guess.
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Posted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 01:53 Post subject: |
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maul_inc wrote: | iNatan wrote: | m3th0d2008 wrote: |
Jep, I've read that too on some forums. Several people are confirming that this is the same version they played at the E3. |
Jesus, that old? What were they thinking, ffs!? |
Come to think about it. I think Rebellion may actually be hurting their sales because of this demo, better to get no press than to get a Tsunami of bad Press I guess. |
Why do you think you're the majority? In some forums are polls about the demo and there are way more who like the demo than hating it. I don't like the demo for itself either, but it gives me a decent look into the gameplay.
Imo this game got it's flaws but it's absolutely what I expected. Hell, maybe the full version will surprise us all. Since this piece of (crap) code seems to be 10 months old, who knows how the retail will be.
If this was a good idea? No, imo it really wasn't. But we'll see. Most of us here pirating this game anyway so why not just wait until this game get's judged?
PS: Cry babies are loud. Thats why there are so many flame threads. Some people just need attention.
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Posted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 02:17 Post subject: |
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m3th0d2008 wrote: | maul_inc wrote: | iNatan wrote: |
Jesus, that old? What were they thinking, ffs!? |
Come to think about it. I think Rebellion may actually be hurting their sales because of this demo, better to get no press than to get a Tsunami of bad Press I guess. |
Why do you think you're the majority? In some forums are polls about the demo and there are way more who like the demo than hating it. I don't like the demo for itself either, but it gives me a decent look into the gameplay.
Imo this game got it's flaws but it's absolutely what I expected. Hell, maybe the full version will surprise us all. Since this piece of (crap) code seems to be 10 months old, who knows how the retail will be.
If this was a good idea? No, imo it really wasn't. But we'll see. Most of us here pirating this game anyway so why not just wait until this game get's judged?
PS: Cry babies are loud. Thats why there are so many flame threads. Some people just need attention. |
So now I'm a crybaby?? I know that there is a lot of unfair hatred towards this game but If you can't see that there is serious flaws with this demo you are simply strange, remember a demo should sell the game just like a trailer for a movie and as flawed as this demo is, it's not doing Rebellion any favors.
Ps. If you want to be taken seriously and be above the real crybabies you can at least listen to some unbiased critique, otherwise YOU are one of the Crybabies, Or fanboys or whatever....
Pps. I never even mentioned the gameplay or saying that I feel I'm the Majority, so here's some Bonus info, I actually like the demo gameplay despite it's flaws. Oh and btw. being in a majority doesn't necessarily mean that one is correct as this is about personal opinions and NOT about Democracy
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Posted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 02:22 Post subject: |
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maul_inc wrote: | m3th0d2008 wrote: | maul_inc wrote: |
Come to think about it. I think Rebellion may actually be hurting their sales because of this demo, better to get no press than to get a Tsunami of bad Press I guess. |
Why do you think you're the majority? In some forums are polls about the demo and there are way more who like the demo than hating it. I don't like the demo for itself either, but it gives me a decent look into the gameplay.
Imo this game got it's flaws but it's absolutely what I expected. Hell, maybe the full version will surprise us all. Since this piece of (crap) code seems to be 10 months old, who knows how the retail will be.
If this was a good idea? No, imo it really wasn't. But we'll see. Most of us here pirating this game anyway so why not just wait until this game get's judged?
PS: Cry babies are loud. Thats why there are so many flame threads. Some people just need attention. |
So now I'm a crybaby?? |
Noooo, not you. Dammnit, I didn't know how to write my thougths better cause my lack of skill at the english language.
And I know that majority means nothing for us gamers, but for the devs. That is what I meant. And the majority likes it nonetheless.
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Posted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 09:04 Post subject: |
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NoLiMiTSoLDieR wrote: | lol so that was u remy, i was DaleyG.
So far i like the aliens the most. |
lol, nice
heres my few comments on the demo:
overall gameplay:
- after playing few matches with all races i must say that overall feeling of the game is much better (altought i didnt played avp1/2 multi much) - the malee combat works ok when you know how to use it, no matter what race you play
alien:
- so far alien seem to be the most difficult to master, the wallclimbing/focus jumping requires getting used to, the spring mode is a nice addition, i was afraid that aliens will be to slow but thats not the issue
predator:
- strangely enough, i dislike predator the most of all three races (at least in multiplayer). I think you should respawn with at least malee attack spear, dunno if unlimited cloak is a good solution
marine:
- marine feels well balanced imo, requires little getting used to but when you play few matches theres no feeling of being helpless - predators drop easily after few rounds to the head from pulse rifle, its just a matter of seeing him first (its not hard when you can se pred even if he is cloaked and doesnt move).
- i didnt feel underpowered by alien/predator stealth kills - it is what it supposed to be - if they can sneak behind me unnoticed they should get free kill. its just a matter of realizing whats going around you and aim for the head
what needs to be fixed:
- predator cloak - he should be 'almost' insivible when cloaked and standing still, maybe just little light fractures when you point at him with flashlight or when you toss flare nearby
- maybe cloak should slowly consume energy when used (not on just starting cloaking)
- toggle wallcrawl for alien - when you hold key you can run on any surfaces, when you let go of the key - you drop to the 'ground' surface
- moving trough ingame menus - far too slow
- mouse movement (controls overall) - needs balancing, controls feel too consolish (specially mouse - imo far to slow on max speed)
- maybe marine pulse rifle is just a little bit overpowered, if found no need for picking up other guns
- flamethrower feels completely useless
- issues present in the demo (hope will be fixed in retail version) - server browser, good multiplayer options (races limits, timelimits, team balancing, vote/kick, show lag/ping per player, mute mic in lobby/mic sessions per team in lobby etc etc)
event if those issues wont be fixed in full version i think that i could easily have PURE FUN playing AVP in other multiplayer modes. just remember the nature of this game - it will always feel unbalanced for some people, its not your typical multiplayer shooter (quake like etc).
HINT - join steam groups for AVP to find the games quicker (as 'in seconds' quicker)
anyone want to play today evening/night some setups? like all marines + one pred, all marines + one alien etc? not just rushing and shooting at everything but more in the atmosphere of the movies
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Posted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 09:25 Post subject: |
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just won match being Human Marine,most of the rest was Aliens and Predators,just as said in FMA series: "don't underestimate humans,homunculus!"
"Fuck Denuvo"
Your personal opinions != the rest of the forum
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Posted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 09:34 Post subject: |
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found it on the net, putting this feature in the predator hunt (few marines, one predator) would be FCKING AMAZING:
Imagine recording the angry tirade of some marine player calling his squad mate a “f*cking noob” over XBL, sneaking up on him all invisible-like, then replaying a distorted version of his own mumbley nerd voice back at him before stabbing him in the eye. Holy Jeez, I’m gonna have me some fun…gonna have me some fun.
how sweet that would be? 4-5 marines, one predator that is lurking somewhere in the trees and can hear most of (based on distance) your mic dialogues. imagine that playing with friends that understand the avp atmoshpere - priceless.
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Posted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 12:32 Post subject: |
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Nui where are you from (timezone)?
sadly theres no way to change race during match (isnt it?) - we could play predator hunt/investation this way
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Posted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 12:43 Post subject: |
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Posted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 13:15 Post subject: |
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anyway, game only starts when 8 players are connected right? did you try to group 8 players and successfully start a game only with those players?
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Posted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 13:58 Post subject: |
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hmm we could try this, i`ll be avaliable around 19-20 (GMT+1 also)
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Posted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 15:22 Post subject: |
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this demo is great if you can get 8 friends and do 4 v 4 aliens vs marines, soooooooooo much better than DM
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Posted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 17:00 Post subject: |
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check it out , apparently i got lucky since i found a host in less than 1 minute , played for like 15 with Xenomorph most of the time , it was nice tho i remember the controls in AvP 2 were better , alot better actually . Same goes for marine , don't remeber him shuffling as much as he does here and weapon change takes too long imo .
not a great game n'or a bad game , gonna have to try the sp campaign out
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Posted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 17:24 Post subject: |
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evilmonkey wrote: | this demo is great if you can get 8 friends and do 4 v 4 aliens vs marines, soooooooooo much better than DM |
in full game it will be match easier-there will be Species Deathmatch as well Mixed Species Deathmatch.
"Fuck Denuvo"
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Posted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 18:09 Post subject: |
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zerosignal0 wrote: | IMO this game is terribly executed. What the hell is with the controls? It is really uncomfortable to try to maneuver the alien and the mouse speed is shit. I am truly disappointed. Please someone let me know if the actual game changes from this or else I definitely wont be buying... |
Did you at least checked the different controls for each species? There is an ability named FOCUS, that is specially designed to counterpart the little-bit-more-difficult control of the alien.
Didn't play that much as my videocard is has it's memory fubared but the game seems to be at least interesting.
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Posted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 18:37 Post subject: |
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The Marine is underpowered, huh?
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Posted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 18:57 Post subject: |
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Clcancellation wrote: | evilmonkey wrote: | this demo is great if you can get 8 friends and do 4 v 4 aliens vs marines, soooooooooo much better than DM |
in full game it will be match easier-there will be Species Deathmatch as well Mixed Species Deathmatch. |
I'm fully aware what retail has, I even posted facts about the game a few pages back and have followed this title throughout development, what I'm saying is that for the DEMO where there is NO SPECIES DEATHMATCH its fun to get friends and play ALIENS VS MARINES.
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Posted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 19:35 Post subject: |
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Posted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 19:39 Post subject: |
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Uhm, so I downloaded the demo and found out it was a multiplayer-only demo. Waste of bandwidth. Didn't look that good either.
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Posted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 19:40 Post subject: |
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Their speed doesn't matter. As long as they can see the enemy early enough, they'll usually win. Besides, Marines are supposed to be played in teams, which will make them much easier to play in the full game.
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Posted: Fri, 5th Feb 2010 19:55 Post subject: |
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Luckily Play.com has it for £17.99 and that's the final price - not some "supah special pre order!!!" one. Get paid Wednesday, so definitely picking it up.
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