Aliens versus Predator (AVP 3)
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Amer_MerzZz




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Feb 2010 14:15    Post subject:
Gameinformer. Never read it.


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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Feb 2010 14:42    Post subject:
Amer_MerzZz wrote:
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I hope that's just a stupid reviewer..
I really hope so


It is. A fucking retarded one. He complains because the game is too hard for his feeble console mind. By the sounds of it, he wants to remove alien wall-climbing cause it gives him "motion sickness". What a fucking dolt.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Feb 2010 14:49    Post subject:
What surprises me is why he complains about the Alien wall-climbing, yet mentions how good the first AVP from Rebellion was. Uhhhh... the wall-climbing was exactly the same (minus the hold-key for actually initiating the climb) and if anything, it was WORSE for motion sickness because of how fast the Alien was in that game!

Gah. People are stupid.
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Skipinder




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Feb 2010 14:51    Post subject:
Yeah, lets just remove the wall climbing and give the alien an assault rifle instead. He also complains that the predator gameplay is stealth focused..... Confused

Sounds like there will be no middle ground with this game, you're either gonna love it or hate it.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Feb 2010 14:52    Post subject:
Skipinder wrote:

Sounds like there will be no middle ground with this game, you're either gonna love it or hate it.


Yep, pretty much. From all the indications on the demo, it's the same thing there too; Polarising. Love it/Hate it.



... I love it BUT!!! I think the Predator is severely OP.
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Janz




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Feb 2010 14:55    Post subject:
sega failed hard. all germans will pirate this game to hell and back! hope there are enough cracked servers for online gaming, they can suck my balls
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Feb 2010 15:12    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:


... I love it BUT!!! I think the Predator is severely OP.


After playing a bit more, I'm starting to agree. It's mostly cause of the disc not using any energy and being an insta-kill. Oh well, I guess he kinda has to be overpowered, as he'll be outnumbered in most gamemodes.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Feb 2010 15:18    Post subject:
The Smart Disk *and* his wrist blades... gaghhhh... he does WAY too much damage, charges his Heavy attack too quickly, cannot be knocked back with a block counter, has completely free cloaking ability. He's just a horridly unbalanced character Sad
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D34Dite




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Feb 2010 15:45    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
The Smart Disk *and* his wrist blades... gaghhhh... he does WAY too much damage, charges his Heavy attack too quickly, cannot be knocked back with a block counter, has completely free cloaking ability. He's just a horridly unbalanced character Sad

was the same in AvP2... and dont even get me started on the "one button long range pounce" in AvP2


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Feb 2010 15:50    Post subject:
Yeah, same as AVP1 as well. Pred was always OP, especially with that goddamn plasma pistol he had in AVP1. One shot instakill Sad

Still, great game though! Getting into a melee battle with the Predator, and winning, was a great accomplishment.
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Feb 2010 16:01    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:

Still, great game though! Getting into a melee battle with the Predator as a Marine, and winning, was a great accomplishment.


Fixed that for ya Wink
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Janz




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Feb 2010 17:00    Post subject:
good news for germans (or people who live there..): segas productmanagement said imported versions could be activated without any problems. so segas support and pm say different things, just wait. although i think the support said bullshit (i.e. could not be activated with a german account; steam has no special accounts for different countries)
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fenris




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Feb 2010 17:05    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
sega failed hard. all germans will pirate this game to hell and back! hope there are enough cracked servers for online gaming, they can suck my balls


sega fault?

is this segas fault, that the german censorship ( usk ) works too hard for adult people? no!
is this segas fault, that they will not cut the game and that they not give the usk for check this game? no!
is this segas fault , that steam block all germans ip? no!
is this segas vault, that you can buy a import version of the game and your german ip will block? no!

this is the fault from usk and steam!
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Smikis.




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Feb 2010 20:21    Post subject:
game is shit anyway

host left "anyone?

broken jumping on pred.. one night i can jump freely.. next for the life of me. . i cant enable jump option at all..

why does pred beats alliens in melee combat 90% of the time? silly..

why are alliens only good to one shot marines.. qq

dont get me started how bad marine shooting is.. no aiming.. no anything.. radar is silly .. flaslight? wow.. why do i even have option to turn it off.. everyone else can see me across every wall..

well atleast there wont be wallhacks as they are inbuild for everyone but marine.. qq

dont even get me started on controls or broken mic..
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stemot




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Feb 2010 20:32    Post subject:
Smikis. wrote:
game is shit anyway

host left "anyone?

broken jumping on pred.. one night i can jump freely.. next for the life of me. . i cant enable jump option at all..

why does pred beats alliens in melee combat 90% of the time? silly..

why are alliens only good to one shot marines.. qq

dont get me started how bad marine shooting is.. no aiming.. no anything.. radar is silly .. flaslight? wow.. why do i even have option to turn it off.. everyone else can see me across every wall..

well atleast there wont be wallhacks as they are inbuild for everyone but marine.. qq

dont even get me started on controls or broken mic..


That post just proves your to stupid to play this game.
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Rage




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Feb 2010 20:46    Post subject:
stemot wrote:
Smikis. wrote:
game is shit anyway

host left "anyone?

broken jumping on pred.. one night i can jump freely.. next for the life of me. . i cant enable jump option at all..

why does pred beats alliens in melee combat 90% of the time? silly..

why are alliens only good to one shot marines.. qq

dont get me started how bad marine shooting is.. no aiming.. no anything.. radar is silly .. flaslight? wow.. why do i even have option to turn it off.. everyone else can see me across every wall..

well atleast there wont be wallhacks as they are inbuild for everyone but marine.. qq

dont even get me started on controls or broken mic..


That post just proves your to stupid to play this game.


This post proves you're too stupid to comment on his stupidity.
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Nui
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Feb 2010 20:56    Post subject:
xTerro wrote:
stemot wrote:
Smikis. wrote:
game is shit anyway

host left "anyone?

broken jumping on pred.. one night i can jump freely.. next for the life of me. . i cant enable jump option at all..

why does pred beats alliens in melee combat 90% of the time? silly..

why are alliens only good to one shot marines.. qq

dont get me started how bad marine shooting is.. no aiming.. no anything.. radar is silly .. flaslight? wow.. why do i even have option to turn it off.. everyone else can see me across every wall..

well atleast there wont be wallhacks as they are inbuild for everyone but marine.. qq

dont even get me started on controls or broken mic..


That post just proves your to stupid to play this game.


This post proves you're too stupid to comment on his stupidity.


your post just proves how awesome tunnels are
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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Feb 2010 21:46    Post subject:
I'm going crazy.... Sega's Support said the Game won't be playable in Germany. Now the Sega Product Management said the Game will be playable for Germans just fine. All imported version will work.

Well, I believe more in the product management than some support/hotline idiots.

It's still ridiculous.


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Feb 2010 21:52    Post subject:
the only thing to do about it is wait, i guess :/


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AssA




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 00:29    Post subject:
fenris wrote:
Janz wrote:
sega failed hard. all germans will pirate this game to hell and back! hope there are enough cracked servers for online gaming, they can suck my balls


sega fault?

is this segas fault, that the german censorship ( usk ) works too hard for adult people? no!
is this segas fault, that they will not cut the game and that they not give the usk for check this game? no!
is this segas fault , that steam block all germans ip? no!
is this segas vault, that you can buy a import version of the game and your german ip will block? no!

this is the fault from usk and steam!


well it actually is segas fault...

the worst thing that could happen if they'd release the game in Germany without changing anything would be being listed on the "index"...
a game that is on the index can still be bought although not shown publicly or advertised...

publishers want their games to be seen on the shelves / advertised so they rarely release a game like that...

even if they wouldn't release the game in Germany it would just get a "not rated" - meaning you'd need to prove that you're 18 when buying (importing) the game...

bottom line: there is NO need for an IP-BAN for this type of game... and it IS segas fault if Germans can't play the game...


|IcedFreon| wrote:
lol you're done wih the game? already ??????? jesus. ppl havent even finished downloading it yet

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stemot




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 09:38    Post subject:
xTerro wrote:
stemot wrote:
Smikis. wrote:
game is shit anyway

host left "anyone?

broken jumping on pred.. one night i can jump freely.. next for the life of me. . i cant enable jump option at all..

why does pred beats alliens in melee combat 90% of the time? silly..

why are alliens only good to one shot marines.. qq

dont get me started how bad marine shooting is.. no aiming.. no anything.. radar is silly .. flaslight? wow.. why do i even have option to turn it off.. everyone else can see me across every wall..

well atleast there wont be wallhacks as they are inbuild for everyone but marine.. qq

dont even get me started on controls or broken mic..


That post just proves your to stupid to play this game.


This post proves you're too stupid to comment on his stupidity.


It just proves his comment was to stupid for me to waste my time elaborating on, nothing more.
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Rage




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 10:49    Post subject:
No, it just proves you're trolling him, since you attacked his post without even an argument as to why his post is stupid.

I happen to agree with him on most counts.

The graphics are bad, when the host leaves the game ends, sometimes with the pred you cant get that fucking circle to highlight the area you want it to, you have to be two meters away to be even able to target it, and you'll be long dead before you get a chance to position yourself for jumping.

Aliens rape marines so hard, since even with the motion tracker, its pretty difficult to tell where the alien is.

He's also right about the flashlight, whats the point of having a button to turn it off since every other race can see you through walls,floors etc?

The lobbies and the game is filled with 10 year olds burping and farting on the mike, and the controls, even if you can remap em, are pretty fucking bad.


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Jonhy




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 11:49    Post subject:
@xTerro I couldn't disagree more with you. Most of your critcs dont make sense since you seem to forget its just a demo based on a pre-release code (some even say the code is more then 10 months old!!)

xTerro wrote:
The graphics are bad

I'm not such of a graphic whore myself but i think the game still looks good. I have everything max'ed out on 1920*1080 and it's good for me.Don't expect a new crysis Rolling Eyes
And besides just like the very first screen you see in the demo says: it a PRE-RELEASE code and it only supports direct x 9, the full game will support 10 and 11 too! Rolling Eyes


xTerro wrote:
when the host leaves the game ends

Again its just the demo since the demo has a player matching system and the final game will have dedicated servers with a serverbrowser Rolling Eyes


xTerro wrote:
sometimes with the pred you cant get that fucking circle to highlight the area you want it to, you have to be two meters away to be even able to target it, and you'll be long dead before you get a chance to position yourself for jumping.

Maybe you should just practise some more? It takes some time to get use to the pred jumping system ,but when you get used to it, it works fine


xTerro wrote:
Aliens rape marines so hard, since even with the motion tracker, its pretty difficult to tell where the alien is.

Like i posted before this is not true unless you dont know how to play proper with a marine. I have played with a marine mutiple matches and most of the time i ended on the first place and besides in every match i played there is always a marine in the top 2-3. Rolling Eyes
Just make sure to watch your back and make good use of the motion tracker and the aliens wont make a chance Very Happy Especially not when you use your pulse rifle to shoot the shit out of them.

xTerro wrote:
He's also right about the flashlight, whats the point of having a button to turn it off since every other race can see you through walls,floors etc?

It's true the other 2 races can spot a human so easily but if you would have watched any other the aliens/predators movies you would have known they would have these abilities.So it wouldn't make sense if they couldn't do it in the game? Rolling Eyes
And besides when playing deathmatch the other marine players can spot you faster when you have your flashlight turned on....


xTerro wrote:
The lobbies and the game is filled with 10 year olds burping and farting on the mike

Again,it's just the demo since it uses the mathing system and the final game will use normal server browser with dedicated servers Rolling Eyes

So please next time get your facts straight! before you come here and start whining about how bad a game is based on a 10 months old pre-released demo Rolling Eyes
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RainyDay




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 12:14    Post subject:
Wait, so now it is his fault that rebellion released a year old shit code ?

In this current version - which is the only one available to us - so we offcourse have nothing else to comment but that - is bad on several points. The present matchmaker is utter shit - it matters not if will be it or something else in retail - here, it's just shit - and that's a fact. Same goes for the microphone farts - i love my keyboard and the mute button.. saves my ears from bleeding every game.

The flashlight is not that useless but it matters not that much - anything can see you, but this gives you a slim chance to see something else - tho i usually don't use it - i'm trying to not draw additional attention from fellows marines for example.

Pretty much everything but marine can rape hard (without putting effort) thanks to the magical "E" button, and that's still one of my major complains - i call it the chain of death - everyone back stabs everyone in turns...

predator & movement - offcourse the controls won't be the best - blame consoles.

graphics - The models are great, the environment is ok. But sometimes the game just starts crawling until i alt-tab it - most annoying..

anyway still have love-hate feelings to teh demo :]


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llihP




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 12:17    Post subject:
It's a demo, a demonstration of what is supposed to be the final product that is released in a week.

If they want to release it that way, they can take all the shit they get for it.

Fucking crap - canceled pre order until I see an improvement in the game.
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Rage




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 12:23    Post subject:
Well Jonhy, i came out first 4 times in a row with marine too. Wanna know how? Preds and aliens have a go at it in melee while i shoot them from the far. KSing to get enough kills to win isn't my idea of fun.

As for all your other points. Rolling Eyes

I understand sticking to canon, but the race balance in this game sucks ass.


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Werelds
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 12:35    Post subject:
Awesome to see some of you judging a game that's not even out yet, based on a demo that explicitly states that it "may not represent the final product".

Same thing with the balance. Yes, the Predator is pretty strong, but it's not unkillable - there is a reason why there's a limit on them. Marines aren't useless against either of the other two, especially not aliens, because they have a "slight" range advantage. Yes, Aliens die pretty quickly - but that's the whole point of the damn thing.

Honestly, the problem most of you seem to have is that you try to play all three in the same way. I've managed to do well on all three classes, you just gotta adapt a new playstyle for all three. Took me a few games to figure out the best ways to play them, but all three can be deadly; and they can be killed by the other 2 just fine.

My guess is that those who find the Alien hard to play haven't played the old game, and thus don't use sprint enough whilst jumping at people from right in front of them. Those not liking the Marine, most likely apply standard shooter tactics where you go in guns blazing like Rambo rather than actually paying attention to your surroundings and SOUND.
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Jonhy




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 13:19    Post subject:
pwerelds wrote:
Awesome to see some of you judging a game that's not even out yet, based on a demo that explicitly states that it "may not represent the final product".

Same thing with the balance. Yes, the Predator is pretty strong, but it's not unkillable - there is a reason why there's a limit on them. Marines aren't useless against either of the other two, especially not aliens, because they have a "slight" range advantage. Yes, Aliens die pretty quickly - but that's the whole point of the damn thing.

Honestly, the problem most of you seem to have is that you try to play all three in the same way. I've managed to do well on all three classes, you just gotta adapt a new playstyle for all three. Took me a few games to figure out the best ways to play them, but all three can be deadly; and they can be killed by the other 2 just fine.

My guess is that those who find the Alien hard to play haven't played the old game, and thus don't use sprint enough whilst jumping at people from right in front of them. Those not liking the Marine, most likely apply standard shooter tactics where you go in guns blazing like Rambo rather than actually paying attention to your surroundings and SOUND.

+100. Exactly the same as i think of it.

@rainyday+xTerro I didn't said that i loved the matchmaking system and those annoying whining lifeless kids with mics. I just said this whole system won't be in the final game.
So pretty useless to say that the final game will be shit based on things that are in the demo only

And offcourse its stupid that rebellion used a year old code for a demo and implemented a matchmaking system in the demo instead of the normal serverbrowser.
But you have to look passed it and only judge the game on its gameplay!
I also think the demo itself is bad but based on what i have seen in the game it self and on how i experienced the gameplay, i got a good feeling the final game will be fine.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 14:07    Post subject:
Quote:
Awesome to see some of you judging a game that's not even out yet, based on a demo that explicitly states that it "may not represent the final product"


Your kidding right?

You really think in today's world of game developing that one should take that as gospel?

Your age and gaming experience must be limited right now because anyone who is anyone of a gamer would not stand by that "its not finished yet" bullshit... Every fucking game from year dot has used that as a fallback on quality issues.
Oh dont get me wrong here, some games (but very limited) have been sub par and turned out alot better on release day, but dont hold your breath is a good rule of thumb to go by I would say...

Nothing much on pc gaming is deep/rich and meaningful story wise or content wise these days, some developers are holding on it seems with some good titles but I could prob count them on one hand with missing fingers..

Quit riding the fanboi train of "its going to be awesome!!!!" and just wait like everyother "sane" fucker till its out for its first week and then comment.. Few titles recently been in that spotlight be it to do with matchmaking or other problems...

As i said dont hold your breath, and dont think that everything someone says while marketing a game for your cash is your best friend..

Enjoy the game for what it is right now, cause its probably going to be very close to same as release title.. Wishing it wont be is all fine but jumping up and down spanking your monkey and shouting oh god no they wont let this happen its just a demo, and saying five hail mary's and posting so in a forum wont change much apart from your blood pressure it seems..
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 14:25    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
Your age and gaming experience must be limited right now because anyone who is anyone of a gamer would not stand by that "its not finished yet" bullshit... Every fucking game from year dot has used that as a fallback on quality issues.
Oh dont get me wrong here, some games (but very limited) have been sub par and turned out alot better on release day, but dont hold your breath is a good rule of thumb to go by I would say...

Well yeah, but I'm not as pessimistic as some of the people in here. The thing is that this is clearly a goddamn tech demo more than anything. They just put it out there to feed the hype, which didn't work out as they hoped obviously. It has happened quite often in the past, so I'm neither being a complete pessimist like most here, but I'm not a fool who "knows" it'll be fantastic either. I'd rather not judge it on some shit tech demo, however much I do enjoy that demo.

Demo's nowadays aren't the good old shareware versions of the old days. I wish they were, but they're not. More often than not, they lack a whole shitload of features of the full version, whereas the old shareware was a fully featured, but drastically shortened version.

And don't start with me about gaming experience please Razz
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