Mass Effect 2
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Neon
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 17:02    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Miranda can't do it, she's not strong enough and Jack is hit'n'miss. Sometimes she falters and lets the shield down, getting someone killed, and Miranda has a greater chance of faltering. I know Jack *can* do it, but it's not like 50/50 (at least, not from what I've seen and heard)
I always picked Jack as the biotic and she always came through (always being the 4 times that I've played the final mission ).


+1 Wink

BTW, I'm keep playing Mass Effect 1 to import the save and see if the game plays out any different...
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 17:10    Post subject:
Neon25 wrote:
BTW, I'm keep playing Mass Effect 1 to import the save and see if the game plays out any different...


It does, the choices you make in me 1 will affect me 2.

* Kill or safe Wrex
* Save Kaidan Alenko or save Ashley Williams
* Save the council or let them die (i let them die, because they didnt listen to me Smile )

I can go on Wink
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 17:15    Post subject:
Yeah I know various choices affect your gameplay in ME2, but I'm wondering if

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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 17:24    Post subject:
Interesting, I have a save with Council dead, and I wondered what would the effect be... I always thought the council will actually be more forthcoming, since it's human and all...I guess not.

To answer the question, the saved council will talk to you...
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blackdochia




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 18:43    Post subject:
You will get some nice encounters with the imported save: the asari scientist from Virmire can be found working for Okeer (if you've let her alive), you can talk with Mordin about Kirrahe, Helena Blake is on Omega 4 as a social worker(btw that's my Paragon character, so I'll tell whatever he sees now), you get a photo of your love interest in the captain's cabin, you see how your actions on Feros and Noveria affected some corporations. Wrex will be on Tuchantka if you used charm on him at he made it alive from Virmire. Somehow it feels like a different game when you are playing with the imported character.
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 18:47    Post subject:
Well I gave it another go, it was a glorious disaster Very Happy hints
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Mikenski




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 18:56    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:

^^ That's a guaranteed win. There are other variations, but the above is guaranteed.


Loyalty has nothing to do with it? o i c
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 19:00    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
Well I gave it another go, it was a glorious disaster Very Happy hints
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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 19:04    Post subject:
Loyalty has a lot to do with it. With no loyalty whoever you pick will fail.
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In any case all this has been discussed before, a few pages back, if you are interested. There are a lot of choices/consequences/hints and discussions on that.
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Pixies




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 19:41    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
I ended the relationship with Jack (Started with Miranda instead, might end her to and go for Tali to have all three finished before ending it with her as well.) but all she does is "fuck off" whenever clicked on so she's kinda useless now. Very Happy


Hm.. yeah, but you only get one actual love scene per playthrough, right, so they don't acually finish? You can switch to someone else later, but I can't get them to actually come to my room at any rate.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 19:46    Post subject:
Yep, only one "real" romance. I shagged Jack for fun and then got serious with Tali.

After that, Ashley's picture on my desk got removed,lol. That stupid cold bitch treated me like a traitor, after all we went though Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 19:49    Post subject:
Unsure how well they finish but now that you mention it it does skip the special scene each of them has (Saved & loaded a few times to see those beforehand.), had all three "candidates" ready initially by talking to them and taking appropriate choices during conversation but had already accepted Jack so they had this condition that they would not "share" me and I had to make it clear whom Iwas interested in or something along those lines.

Before the endgame the cinematic romance scene with Jack played out, afterwards I let her down (Which she now hates me for.) and then I talked to Miranda which resumed that romance but she just appears in my cabin when summoned so it does skip a bit.

(I guess that by letting them all down like this plus having cheated on Lliara I'm going to get some problems in ME3, guess I'll have to Paragon them all until they forgive me. Very Happy )
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 19:52    Post subject:
If you wanna achieve real romance with Jack, you must NOT tap that ass at the first chance you get, she then considers that you are "playing around" and that's the end of that story.
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cybtropic




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 19:53    Post subject:
I just finished hardcore difficulty playing as vanguiard. I don't know what most people are smoking but no other class comes even close to vanguard's power. And the comabt is actually fun to play instead of just cover, shoot, cover, shoot. The only problem is the game is too easy playing as vanguard. Going to wait for more DLC's to come out and try it again on insanity.

Hint: take energy drain as vanguard bonus ability and max to heavy drain. You will have about 1000 shields coming out of charge (with +50% tech research and shields).

Great to charge at four enemies and killing them all in like 10-15 seconds, matrix-style. Beats hiding behind a crate like a f*cking c*nt and shooting from time to time.
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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 20:27    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
Yep, only one "real" romance. I shagged Jack for fun and then got serious with Tali.

After that, Ashley's picture on my desk got removed,lol. That stupid cold bitch treated me like a traitor, after all we went though Crying or Very sad


Well, Ash does write you an apology/love letter later on...

I would be interesting to see how all this plays out in ME3, and whether there will be some punishment for not staying loyal. Although I suspect they'd probably try to commend loyalty rather than punish you for choosing someone else.
Also it's interesting if they are gonna tie in the events of Redemption into the game.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 21:49    Post subject:
I finished the game and everyone survived, including my whole Normandy crew. This was my setup.
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DrHobo




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 22:32    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
Kind of wondering about the last sequence of missions, there seems to be a lot of combinations
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How did you play the finale?


Fun to see how other people choose, well here's mine:

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Stinky244




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 23:22    Post subject:
Oh noes not this again. Everyone starting to post their "who went where" lists... We been over this a couple of pages back and it dragged on to like 5+ pages. We get it already. Post some useful information which is worth bumping the topic.
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Feb 2010 00:07    Post subject:
shotgun ? but of course they will add a shotgun.. after i already beaten the game with my vanguard ***** :[


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ShadowB




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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Feb 2010 01:30    Post subject:
Bah. Shotguns have very limited usefulness, and I see them being nothing but useless in the upper difficulty levels. There's only two pistols in the game, so if any weapon needs an extra iteration, it's them.

The armour looks cool, though.

I wish they'd release the Hammerhead DLC already. They said it'd come out within two weeks after ME2's release, but time's almost up ('deadline' is tomorrow, the 9th) and there haven't been any news at all.
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Feb 2010 01:32    Post subject:
Don't know if anyone cares, but some info for Ati users...

You can force AA without renaming the MassEffect2.exe if you install the latest Catalyst hotfix. That way you can run the game from the launcher as usual.
Technically you don't need the latest, but might as well get it - link

About DLC... armor is probably still useless, curious about the shotgun though. I rarely used them, may be this one will be more practical... of course I still will need to wait until someone cracks this, if I understand correctly, the current crack only gives you access to the already released DLC.
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Feb 2010 01:58    Post subject:
MinderMast wrote:
About DLC... armor is probably still useless...

Everyone knows armours are mainly for show. Razz
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Feb 2010 02:39    Post subject:
Or hiding faces. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Feb 2010 04:17    Post subject:
i get this feeling that no one who plays this game really likes jack... maybe because shes a tatt'd up skinheaded freak or something, i dunno, but on my second play-through i started using her in my squad, and she fucking rocks. Shes virtually always in my squad now, her shockwave rips shit up something fierce, and i never get tired of seeing people cartwheeling through the air screaming... plus shes actually pretty cool, definately one of my fav characters now Very Happy hope she sticks around for me3, she fucking kicks Very Happy

still have a couple of side missions to go, 2 sob-story missions and i still have to recruit glass-face... hate the bitch, which is why i leave her till last... oh, and im gonna see to it she dies again at the end while i save everyone else. hawww Very Happy


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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Feb 2010 04:49    Post subject:
ShadowB wrote:
MinderMast wrote:
About DLC... armor is probably still useless...

Everyone knows armours are mainly for show. Razz


Problem is since I finished the game with the best choices I could get and all the secondary missions what the heck am I suppose to do now?!

It's not like they're gonna release a expansion or something that will massively bolster the number of secondary missions (which btw are pretty short and very limited in numbers).

While I can see a future for Dragon Age DLC... Mass Effect 2 downloadable future doesn't seem that bright to me. Only interesting part is the Hammerhead and they haven't released any info about that.
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Feb 2010 04:52    Post subject:
You can always play another class you know

I read somewhere they were going to release a DLC in which you visited earth.


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chiv




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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Feb 2010 05:00    Post subject:
do we get to loot earths resources from space? i wanna do that so bad Very Happy

and @ predator i dunno why you think me2s dlc future couldnt be bright... theres a hell of a lot of backstory to build on, shitloads of places to go, lots of interacting factions in the games story that could provide interesting story missions... shit.. compared to SPACE travel and alien interaction, anything else is LIMITED by comparison, especially dragon age.

zaeeds dlc was pretty good i thought.. not as good deep as shales in da:o, but it was a good start with a nice 'link' to the games core story/universe.

whether or not they actually USE me2s universe to decent enough effect and give us some great dlc expansions, remains to be seen.. but the potential is definately there.

and yeah, besides, you can replay the game as a different class, and take different options from what you did before. if you were playing a pussy.. i mean paragon, you might want to try renegade, or vice-versa.


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Predator_Soul




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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Feb 2010 09:55    Post subject:
Did you see zaeed interact with someone? His monologues get pretty boring after a while. I was mainly pointing the fact that the game has been released for a while but instead of announcing some new content the guys keep bombarding us with new weapons and armors in a game that is pretty short as it is.

As for the backstory you're right but still.... this is a game based 25 or 50% on the inner party interaction and main plot line. As soon as you take that away you loose the magic that makes the second part great. Considering half the voice acting staff is either working on the third part of doing something else I'm afraid it's gonna be a pretty shallow DLC experience.

In the end I guess we'll have to wait and see. Many things we're promised for the first part but only two DLC came out.
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dsergei




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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Feb 2010 10:03    Post subject:
Well they probably won't offer any kind of additional "interactions" with the dlc because of the ammount of additional voiceovers they'd have to record. Having Shepard actors record some additional lines is one thing, but getting every party member and possibly some npcs to respond to a new party member is probably too much to ask. My guess is that they will focus on gameplay and gear. After the Hammerhead we'll probably see some kind of arena dlc similar to the shitty Pinnacle Station and more gear.
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