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Posted: Tue, 22nd Feb 2005 03:28 Post subject: |
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I can speak English , Russian, and Ukrainian, arranged by fluency (ranging from superb to negligible), with the latter being my native tongue.
I want to learn German, the language of Rammstein ('nuff said here.)
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Panoramix
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Location: Essen/NRW/Germany
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Posted: Tue, 22nd Feb 2005 16:46 Post subject: |
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stu"died" romanistic 3 years ago at the university to become a teacher of Latin one day. Changed to makro-economics but now i think that also wasn't a good idea...
learned Latin, french (forgot most of it- easy to learn & to read, difficult to spell when you're out of practice), learned spanish for one year at the university, understand dutch very well (my Grandpa is a dutchman), learned italian for the last 4 years because my girlfriend's from Italy.
I'm very interested in learning northern languages like danish, swedish or norwegian. Hopefully i will find the time to take some lessons. It seems to be very interesting to learn another germanic based language. Many words with primary meanings in norwegian for example have a very similar expression in low-german northern dialect or dutch (which is nearly the same) , where they are often used in secondary meanings.
Nun, so soll es denn sein!
Reiche mir Schwert und Wein,
reiche mir Panzer und Gebein!
Zerschmettern will ich mit Hass!
Ich, das schwarze Nass!!!
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fisk
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Location: Von Oben
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Posted: Tue, 22nd Feb 2005 20:50 Post subject: |
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My definition of "fluent" is that you can speak it basically like a native, fluent is flawless, without (appropriate) accent.
With this in mind, I only speak one language fluently: Swedish.
I've got a keen interest in many languages and speak a few of them pretty well, including english, pre-medieval english (Written with old northern letters), olde english (Shakespeare anyone).
I also understand languages such as germanic, danish, icelandic, dutch and norweigan, since they have many common linguistical grounds - I would never claim I spoke them very well, but I've got a talent of decrypting them.
I've studied latin and french (french for 4 years, whatever that gave me) - but I'd say I'm probably better at german than I am at french.
If you really sum it up though, I can only speak swedish fluently, and that's what I go by. Any other associations just confuse people when they start speaking to you in a certain foreign language, and you can only disseminate half of what they just said. If you need to ask people to speak more slowly, you are hardly fluent at that particular language, nor it's many dialects.
Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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Posted: Tue, 22nd Feb 2005 21:36 Post subject: |
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fisk wrote: | If you really sum it up though, I can only speak swedish fluently, and that's what I go by. Any other associations just confuse people when they start speaking to you in a certain foreign language, and you can only disseminate half of what they just said. If you need to ask people to speak more slowly, you are hardly fluent at that particular language, nor it's many dialects. |
If i take your definition of fluent, i hardly speak german fluent, although i'm a native. There are some parts of Germany , there people speak such accents that i don't get what they are talking about, they even show subtitles on tv if these people get interviewed.
For me fluent means that you can speak a language fluent without any breaks, with correct grammar and pronunciation. You don't have to get the meaning of every word, infact i am sure if you talk to someone in swedish about certain topics you are not so familiar with (scientific or law e.g.) you do not know or understand the meaning of every word they say, nor can you talk to them using these words. Same goes for me with german.
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spankie
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Posted: Tue, 22nd Feb 2005 22:03 Post subject: |
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dutch
latin
english
german
french
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Posted: Tue, 22nd Feb 2005 22:18 Post subject: |
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If you know how to say the following, you have mastered english fully:
I am horny
I want to fuck
Suck me off
Swallow
I must eat
I must drink
I must sleep
Shut the fuck up
That's about it.
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_SiN_
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Posted: Tue, 22nd Feb 2005 22:27 Post subject: |
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Pizda2 wrote: | If you know how to say the following, you have mastered english fully:
I am horny
I want to fuck
Suck me off
Swallow
I must eat
I must drink
I must sleep
Shut the fuck up
That's about it. |
Suck me off?
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Posted: Tue, 22nd Feb 2005 22:41 Post subject: |
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fisk
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Posted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2005 01:45 Post subject: |
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whoKnows wrote: | fisk wrote: | If you really sum it up though, I can only speak swedish fluently, and that's what I go by. Any other associations just confuse people when they start speaking to you in a certain foreign language, and you can only disseminate half of what they just said. If you need to ask people to speak more slowly, you are hardly fluent at that particular language, nor it's many dialects. |
If i take your definition of fluent, i hardly speak german fluent, although i'm a native. There are some parts of Germany , there people speak such accents that i don't get what they are talking about, they even show subtitles on tv if these people get interviewed.
For me fluent means that you can speak a language fluent without any breaks, with correct grammar and pronunciation. You don't have to get the meaning of every word, infact i am sure if you talk to someone in swedish about certain topics you are not so familiar with (scientific or law e.g.) you do not know or understand the meaning of every word they say, nor can you talk to them using these words. Same goes for me with german. |
Notice the "nor", I used it to specify what I meant, if you're "hardly fluent" and need for someone (who speaks without a dialect) to speak more slowly, you're hardly fluent at all, and thus can probably not understand the many dialects either.
The reason why I wrote this was that usually people have a certain accent, for instance, if you know english really well, you still have a problem understanding cockney. If you do not understand english (as I defined) fluently you'll think that someone speaking cockney is just making things up as he goes. And still, cockney is still concidered 'english' as it's pretty common in England.
Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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Posted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2005 17:26 Post subject: |
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Quote: | Pizda2 wrote: |
Suck me off? |
"Blow me" is more american and....manly  |
how would that translate into dutch "zuig me af"??? oh wait a minute are you by any chance from the netherlands if so that explains a lot 
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Posted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2005 17:36 Post subject: |
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JeanPerrier wrote: | Quote: | Pizda2 wrote: |
Suck me off? |
"Blow me" is more american and....manly  |
how would that translate into dutch "zuig me af"??? oh wait a minute are you by any chance from the netherlands if so that explains a lot  |
I come from many places 
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Posted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2005 17:37 Post subject: |
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Pizda2 wrote: |
I come from many places  |
figures 
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