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DraySpittle




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 14:50    Post subject:
Think of it like patches released on steam, only you have to beat the game to get the patch files.


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ByteR4cer




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 14:52    Post subject:
there are no files. part of the engine is missing think about something like :

game sends 2 numbers 1000 and 2000

server returns 3242

if you dont know what the server does its hard to crack it.
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HellRazor20




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 14:54    Post subject:
http://www.sceneforce.com/browse/group-sites_int/page/

it seams that its a group that releases from various categories...
though i have never seen one to release things in this wide area until now


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ivan1real




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 15:01    Post subject:
Ubi Blames Assassin's Creed II DRM Woes On Server Attacks http://goo.gl/tHii

Sorry if posted before.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 15:01    Post subject:
That's fucked if the game sends shits to ubifostshits servers
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thenormal02




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 15:03    Post subject:
one daily attack to their servers will make the drm go away. that's the crack for this game
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 15:07    Post subject:
thenormal02 wrote:
one daily attack to their servers will make the drm go away. that's the crack for this game


It's fine for me Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 15:07    Post subject:
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xExtreme




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 15:11    Post subject:
Starforce fucked up your optical drivers...now this fucks you and ur dear mother cause she paid 50bucks to get AC2 as birthday present, lovely isn't it ?
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Cythrawl




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 15:47    Post subject:
http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_14519745?source=most_viewed&nclick_check=1

I guess this kid bought Assassins Creed 2 and dealt justice to himself...
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Pl@tinum




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 15:50    Post subject:
garus wrote:
Haha, it failed from day one xD


Nah, it's actually working. It will probably be a pain in the ass to crack and they'll eventually get more sales 'cause of it. Sure some ppl that bought the game can't play it, but that's a side effect.

I actually hope one day they can make a non-intrusive drm that's uncrackable. Maybe then we can see the PC market return to the former glory, and we don't have to wait for an atrociously drm'ed game already released for the consoles 6 months ago.


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 15:51    Post subject:
Legit players not being able to play a game they have purchased, how is that not fail? Laughing
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maul_inc




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 15:54    Post subject:
Hmm, It seems that Uplay is under attack again...


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csebal




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 15:55    Post subject:
ByteR4cer wrote:
there are no files. part of the engine is missing think about something like :

game sends 2 numbers 1000 and 2000

server returns 3242

if you dont know what the server does its hard to crack it.


You might not know what the server does, but you know what the client does to get numbers 1000 and 2000 and also know what it does with the number 3242.

Also if you happen to do it more than once, you will see various number sent and the answers related to those numbers.

The sum of these is called a pattern and it allows smart people to figure out the logic that makes A and B turn into C.
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maul_inc




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 16:06    Post subject:
Funny, this battle between Hackers and Ubisoft reminds me of the plot of Assassin's Creed Very Happy

Let's see, we have Abstergo (The Templars) that is trying to take control of people all over the world by using advanced technology and we have the Assassin's that is trying to stop them to keep people being free Wink

Now in my book, that sounds a lot like the Ubisoft Vs Pirates battle that is raging right now Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 16:16    Post subject:
Pl@tinum wrote:
garus wrote:
Haha, it failed from day one xD


Nah, it's actually working. It will probably be a pain in the ass to crack and they'll eventually get more sales 'cause of it. Sure some ppl that bought the game can't play it, but that's a side effect.

I actually hope one day they can make a non-intrusive drm that's uncrackable. Maybe then we can see the PC market return to the former glory, and we don't have to wait for an atrociously drm'ed game already released for the consoles 6 months ago.


If games start being uncrackable then i'd have to pay for them. And i need my money for actually useful stuff like alcohol.
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litwicki23
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 16:21    Post subject:
so no good release still?
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 16:25    Post subject:
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DABhandUK
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 16:33    Post subject:
xExtreme wrote:
DraySpittle wrote:
Well I'll know something in a mere 3 hours!!111!!


Till then we crack Eve Online and make private servers.


There is an Eve emulator out there.

EDIT: As for starforce screwing drives, nobody did that challenge to prove it does. Its rumors set by broadband kiddies to try and disuade publishers away from starforce.


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maul_inc




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 16:35    Post subject:
garus wrote:
maul_inc wrote:
Hmm, It seems that Uplay is under attack again...


Good Smug It's the only way to show those retards that it was a bad idea.


I'm inclined to agree with you but if Ubisoft ends up removing drm because of thousands of angry customers want their heads, I'm afraid that Assassin's Creed 3 won't be on pc, and that would make me pissed off...
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 16:36    Post subject:
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dodger2020




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 16:57    Post subject:
DABhandUK wrote:
xExtreme wrote:
DraySpittle wrote:
Well I'll know something in a mere 3 hours!!111!!


Till then we crack Eve Online and make private servers.


There is an Eve emulator out there.



You mean evemu? The one with no updates to the "news" section since 2007? Yeah, I'm sure it works flawlessly.

If not evemu, which one? It'd be cool if there was one that was actually worth using.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 17:01    Post subject:
Even if there was a working emulator, and I think there isn't, why would anyone want to play EVE *alone*? Laughing That's just silly. Razz
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DABhandUK
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 17:02    Post subject:
dodger2020 wrote:
DABhandUK wrote:
xExtreme wrote:


Till then we crack Eve Online and make private servers.


There is an Eve emulator out there.



You mean evemu? The one with no updates to the "news" section since 2007? Yeah, I'm sure it works flawlessly.

If not evemu, which one? It'd be cool if there was one that was actually worth using.



Forgot the name, since it was a long time, but it was for a time database-less, but people were giving away their own databases to be used along with the emulator. I think it was hosted on sourceforge if I remember correctly.

I remember also running it and using someone's database and it worked fine, the AI was a bit iffy, but I assume since then updates have been done.
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DABhandUK
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 17:02    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Even if there was a working emulator, and I think there isn't, why would anyone want to play EVE *alone*? Laughing That's just silly. Razz


You can run a server locally or over the net, so you can have LAN parties or set up a webserver for people to make accounts etc.
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FISKER_Q




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 17:03    Post subject:
DABhandUK wrote:
xExtreme wrote:
DraySpittle wrote:
Well I'll know something in a mere 3 hours!!111!!


Till then we crack Eve Online and make private servers.


There is an Eve emulator out there.

EDIT: As for starforce screwing drives, nobody did that challenge to prove it does. Its rumors set by broadband kiddies to try and disuade publishers away from starforce.


Well i won't take your word for it, so you'll have to travel here to me and prove it, otherwise it's just some rumor you've started. Rolling Eyes

Fact: The version of Starforce concerned acts as a system driver, and could therefor potentially either directly damage hardware, or indirectly damage it by not properly handling requests from other software.

The terms of competition, were retarded, there was no way you could win that contest, heck even if there were you'd probably be lying face-down in a ditch the following day.

1. Travel to russia to meet people who encourage piracy of products that doesn't use their copy protection
2. Reproduce the problem by installing a starforce product(i.e. any other compatibility flaw such as other programs, or even the game itself wouldn't actually be tested, only if the install would cause any damage)
3. Have the problem reproducable on any hardware configuration.

It wasn't possible to win the contest obviously, even if someone had taken it seriously enough, he would've been blocked by the fact that only the installation of the software were considered, had he been lucky enough to reproduce the problem, it should've worked on all their available configurations, which they could easily have made sure wouldn't happen to begin with.

I've had several drives in the past, i once bought Soldiers: Heroes of World War II, after a few weeks my drive stopped being able to recognize new discs (No autoplay), i could still access the disk, but not all times.

I tried uninstalling the game, reformatting my computer, nothing worked, so after a few weeks i just bought a new drive and never reinstalled the game, this is my first and only optical drive i've ever replaced in the 15 year span that i've owned computers, which were due to a failure, and i refuse to believe that Starforce didn't have anything to do with it.

I can't prove that Starforce drivers can fuck your system, but neither you or Starforce can prove it can't either, so if anything leave it at that.


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 17:06    Post subject:
DABhandUK wrote:
iNatan wrote:
Even if there was a working emulator, and I think there isn't, why would anyone want to play EVE *alone*? Laughing That's just silly. Razz


You can run a server locally or over the net, so you can have LAN parties or set up a webserver for people to make accounts etc.

Sure, yeah, that would work somewhat like the plethora of somewhat populated WOW players, that's assuming enough people would care to use these servers, but running a server just for yourself, that looks awful pointless to me.
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csebal




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 17:07    Post subject:
maul_inc wrote:

I'm inclined to agree with you but if Ubisoft ends up removing drm because of thousands of angry customers want their heads, I'm afraid that Assassin's Creed 3 won't be on pc, and that would make me pissed off...


So just because you want Assassin's Creed N+1, you are going to eat whatever piece of sh*t UBI tried to push down your throat? If UBI ends up leaving the PC market, all the better. More room for other companies to make good games without the stupid attitude UBI has.

I'm sick of them acting as if they could threaten me in any way. You dont want to make PC games? Fine. Dont make them. See ya, bye. Just make sure to close the door on your way out. Thanks.

If a company believes that they can threaten their customers into buying more of their stuff.. well.. thats pretty much a sign that either
a) the execs of that company went insane
b) the company is going to go out of business pretty soon


or both.
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DABhandUK
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 17:08    Post subject:
FISKER_Q wrote:


Fact: The version of Starforce concerned acts as a system driver, and could therefor potentially either directly damage hardware, or indirectly damage it by not properly handling requests from other software.


Daemon Tools has a system driver.

Windows uses system drivers.

System drivers are not at fault, and wouldn't be designed to systematically destroy optical drives. How many system drivers does the Windows Kernel use?? Quite a lot.

The thing is, Starforce was offering the chance for people to replicate the phantom "fault" and walk away with a pile of cash and even have expenses paid for them. Nobody could do it, ergo the possibility for people who had optical drives dying could and more than anything else was caused by the fact their drives were faulty or on their way out already.

I have used multiple Starforce protected games and my old DVD-r is chugging away and working fine.

You do understand though what system drivers are and how they work yes?
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