Valve confirms Steam for Mac + source engine
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 21:25    Post subject: Valve confirms Steam for Mac + source engine
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In today's completely shocking and unexpected bit of news, Valve has announced Mac support for its Steam digital distribution platform and Source -- the engine that powers Half-Life 2, amongst others. In fact, Portal 2 will be Valve's first simultaneous release across PC and Mac.


http://www.joystiq.com/2010/03/08/valve-confirms-mac-support-for-steam-and-source-engine/

Interesting. There's also a rumor of a new MAC OSX based gaming system under wraps.

If this is true, and Apple are finally targeting the gaming market with moves like this one, its awesome news for us mac fags Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 21:37    Post subject:
So Valve tries to push Steam to consoles, good business idea.

No, Macs are not PCs, they are consoles: Sold in predefined hardware configurations with strictly limited upgrade capeabilities for compatibility.
Wrong section Wink
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 21:45    Post subject:
Steam Play - is even more awesome, it would be good if developers embrace it and would not charge more $$$ for it Smile

As for Mac OS X based gaming OS, it's a rumor that next version of Mac OS X would include a full scale iPhone emulator layer and it would work like a current Front Row or be integrated into Front Row ala Mac user activated Front Row and be able to play all iPhone / iPad games and their iPhones turns into a touch screen game controller Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 21:45    Post subject:
me7 wrote:
So Valve tries to push Steam to consoles, good business idea.

No, Macs are not PCs, they are consoles: Sold in predefined hardware configurations with strictly limited upgrade capeabilities for compatibility.
Wrong section Wink
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Kinda, but they have diferent models, consoles don't change their gpu between SKU's. On topic, good for them and let's face it, it will help in the war against consoles.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 21:51    Post subject:
Different models? If not that, then what is an Xbox and Xbox 360?

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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 22:00    Post subject: Re: Valve confirms Steam for Mac + source engine
Cohen wrote:
There's also a rumor of a new MAC OSX based gaming system under wraps.
What will be the price I wonder?
5000$?
8000$?

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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 22:13    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
Different models? If not that, then what is an Xbox and Xbox 360?

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You can't play The Orange Box on Xbox (1), so, different models
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 22:35    Post subject:
me7 wrote:
So Valve tries to push Steam to consoles, good business idea.

No, Macs are not PCs, they are consoles: Sold in predefined hardware configurations with strictly limited upgrade capeabilities for compatibility.
Wrong section Wink

you can install MAC OS X on your PC,you know... Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 22:35    Post subject:
He never mentioned the MAC OS, so what you said is irrelevant.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 22:38    Post subject:
MAC=Computer,the main different is the OS,you can even install Windows on Macs.


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 22:38    Post subject:
"As we transition from entertainment as a product to entertainment as a service, customers and developers need open, high-quality Internet clients," said Gabe Newell, President of Valve. "The Mac is a great platform for entertainment services."

"Our Steam partners, who are delivering over a thousand games to 25 million Steam clients, are very excited about adding support for the Mac," said Jason Holtman, Director of Business Development at Valve. "Steamworks for the Mac supports all of the Steamworks APIs, and we have added a new feature, called Steam Play, which allows customers who purchase the product for the Mac or Windows to play on the other platform free of charge. For example, Steam Play, in combination with the Steam Cloud, allows a gamer playing on their work PC to go home and pick up playing the same game at the same point on their home Mac. We expect most developers and publishers to take advantage of Steam Play."

"We looked at a variety of methods to get our games onto the Mac and in the end decided to go with native versions rather than emulation," said John Cook, Director of Steam Development. "The inclusion of WebKit into Steam, and of OpenGL into Source gives us a lot of flexibility in how we move these technologies forward. We are treating the Mac as a tier-1 platform so all of our future games will release simultaneously on Windows, Mac, and the Xbox 360. Updates for the Mac will be available simultaneously with the Windows updates. Furthermore, Mac and Windows players will be part of the same multiplayer universe, sharing servers, lobbies, and so forth. We fully support a heterogeneous mix of servers and clients. The first Mac Steam client will be the new generation currently in beta testing on Windows."

Portal 2 will be Valve's first simultaneous release for Mac and Windows. "Checking in code produces a PC build and Mac build at the same time, automatically, so the two platforms are perfectly in lock-step," said Josh Weier, Portal 2 Project Lead. "We're always playing a native version on the Mac right alongside the PC. This makes it very easy for us and for anyone using Source to do game development for the Mac."
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 22:46    Post subject:
Clcancellation wrote:
MAC=Computer,the main different is the OS,you can even install Windows on Macs.

Not without the bootcamp crap.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 22:51    Post subject:
MAC is an address usually assigned to your network card

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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 22:55    Post subject:
Mac is a computer for artists, not gamers.


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 22:59    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Clcancellation wrote:
MAC=Computer,the main different is the OS,you can even install Windows on Macs.

Not without the bootcamp crap.

Bootcamp is just a partition tool + win drivers package. Windows can be installed without it.


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 23:03    Post subject:
Vassago wrote:
Mac is a computer for artists, not gamers.


I hope you're just kidding.

If not, please explain how the inability to change the soundcard in an iMac is useful for a musician or how being unable to upgrade a GPU is helpful for an animator.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 23:54    Post subject:
Clcancellation wrote:
MAC=Computer,the main different is the OS,you can even install Windows on Macs.


Mac = Not a computer. It doesn't use a BIOS, it has EFI. Otherwise, it is identical to a PC. And if you have a Mac Pro, you can even upgrade the system and use PC hardware, so a Mac = Not a console.

Actually, I don't know what it is really. A waste of money with a fancy sticker.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Mar 2010 23:57    Post subject:
Ashok0 wrote:
Clcancellation wrote:
MAC=Computer,the main different is the OS,you can even install Windows on Macs.


Mac = Not a computer. It doesn't use a BIOS, it has EFI. Otherwise, it is identical to a PC. And if you have a Mac Pro, you can even upgrade the system and use PC hardware, so a Mac = Not a console.

Actually, I don't know what it is really. A waste of money with a fancy sticker.


Pro-tip: A computer is not defined by the kind of low-level system they're using to manage hardware.
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 00:01    Post subject:
Hi guys, I'm in a Mac thread!

Serious question: does this mean Mac now has a level of genuine "validity" as a gaming platform? And if so, how long do I need to wait before seeing a Trendy Metrosexual Mac Gamer vs PC Boring Businessman Gamer commercial?


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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 00:13    Post subject:
No it doesn't. From my testing on the same hardware of both systems, almost any GPU demanding software, be it video playback (VLC, MPlayer) or games (BioShock, Doom 3) runs a lot better on the Windows version.
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 00:19    Post subject:
I really hope Apple starts allowing for more games....

Then all the pricks who say "my mac is powerfull enough to run that game, but it is for _____" will be forced to show us exactly how amazing their overpriced pieces of shit are.

Imagine trying to keep your system cool while your CPU and GPU are struggling to pump out some action. *stares at iMacs

Now imagine the pricks that own the towers that will not have the same heat issues as the iMacs and super dumb thin laptops.....the game will run...then they will say "why don't I have the same eyecandy as you," then I'll point to my DX11 card and they will drool....only to find out that they cannot upgrade because STEVE JOBS HAS TO JIZZ ON EACH PRODUCT THAT CAN WORK WITH A MAC, AND SIMPLY DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH JIZZ TO ACCOMPLISH.

fucking hate macs
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 00:38    Post subject:
This turned on a Mac vs PC thread reaaaaaaally quick!

Go on

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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 04:34    Post subject:
MAC is a Computer,period

it might work different from PC,but it's a Computer,the main different is basically the OS,
you can install Windows on it,and play windows game-


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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 04:40    Post subject:
Mac is a computer for artists...?

More like Mac is a computer for trendy young hipsters who like to spend extra cash for what's effectively a 500 dollar laptop.

I wonder how much this gaming system will cost. I'm sure it'll sell well though, because in order to be a trendy young hipster, one must purchase any new thing Apple puts out.


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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 05:41    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
No it doesn't. From my testing on the same hardware of both systems, almost any GPU demanding software, be it video playback (VLC, MPlayer) or games (BioShock, Doom 3) runs a lot better on the Windows version.

So Mac is still shit. Thanks for the confirmation.

Still, I'm sure Steve Jobs is masturbating furiously over a picture of Gabe Newell as we speak.


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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 05:49    Post subject:
I am sure everything will be really nice, really great, awesome, really nice, great, great, great, really wonderful, really cool, really nice, amazing, awesome, really outstanding. It's that easy. Absolutely incredible. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 08:30    Post subject:
Predicting Steam Linux Client incoming. After all, when they already have the OpenGL stuff worked out this cannot be too hard.
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 11:53    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
I am sure everything will be really nice, really great, awesome, really nice, great, great, great, really wonderful, really cool, really nice, amazing, awesome, really outstanding. It's that easy. Absolutely incredible. Laughing


Those descriptions may have applied a long time ago, but now Apple products have reached a point where they are simply "magical".
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