Best water in a game ?
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xAiTheHitman




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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Feb 2005 16:48    Post subject:
Hey Pallebrun they shoulda done that with Cold Fear
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Feb 2005 17:20    Post subject:
HL2.


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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Feb 2005 17:26    Post subject:
The water in FarCry Instincts impressed me after seeing screenshots in an Xbox magazine.


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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Feb 2005 18:00    Post subject:
Far Cry all the way !
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Feb 2005 18:20    Post subject:
Everyone saying source or Hl2, try glimpsing just under the surface. I don't know if It's only my copy that acts weird but It' kind of a hack to check the bottom fast.
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Feb 2005 18:43    Post subject:
has anyone mentioned morrowind? it was the most beautiful water I've seen although it took awhile for the pixel shaded water to show up
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Feb 2005 19:16    Post subject:
well you mentionned every games I could have though of,.. farcry, source and morrowind. Wave Race 64??? aahahhaha ok it looked the best 7-8year ago but come one now it look like crap just replay it you'll see.

Personnaly I think the best water effect is not in a game but in some tech demo. Unfortunatly I don't have exemple right now, might search later when I have time
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Feb 2005 22:38    Post subject:
razor1394 wrote:
Everyone saying source or Hl2, try glimpsing just under the surface. I don't know if It's only my copy that acts weird but It' kind of a hack to check the bottom fast.


Just under the surface? What are you talking about... the water in HL2 looks excellent TO ME, I don't really care what problems other people have with it.


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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Feb 2005 22:52    Post subject:
fisk wrote:
razor1394 wrote:
Everyone saying source or Hl2, try glimpsing just under the surface. I don't know if It's only my copy that acts weird but It' kind of a hack to check the bottom fast.


Just under the surface? What are you talking about... the water in HL2 looks excellent TO ME, I don't really care what problems other people have with it.


| I don't really care.... | This thread is about water quality in game and this is infact a known bug (checked it) with the source engine which reduces the realism feeling. BTW, HL2 DX9 water doesn't look even close to what -=Cartoon=- posted.



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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Feb 2005 23:09    Post subject:
farcry for me
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Feb 2005 23:23    Post subject:
FarCry + Hl²

I saw the water of Doom³ en it lookls pretty good
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Feb 2005 23:29    Post subject:
Yes HL2 and Farcry have awesome looking water...but for those who have played Splashdown for PS2 knows it´s really nice!!


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 00:10    Post subject:
razor1394 wrote:
-=Cartoon=- - Wow, that's some really nice water effects. Has the game been released before? Personally I've not tried WoW or EQ2 so I'll put a vote on Farcry.


the game cameout like.. last year Razz
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 00:54    Post subject:
The Christ wrote:
FarCry + Hl²

I saw the water of Doom³ en it lookls pretty good


The doom3 engine is technically capable of the best water out of any engine, but it just needs to be done.
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 01:00    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
The Christ wrote:
FarCry + Hl²

I saw the water of Doom³ en it lookls pretty good


The doom3 engine is technically capable of the best water out of any engine, but it just needs to be done.


Of course you would say that Razz

My vote would probably go to FarCry.
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 01:04    Post subject:
and so it beings Laughing
pokemon has the best water! it's blue! and it has monsters in it Shocked


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 01:20    Post subject:


Thats the best water, I change my mind.
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 01:22    Post subject:
OMG yes! and the ripple effect is just astonishing!


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 02:16    Post subject:
More like the Static 4*4 Tile Set effect, lol.
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 02:20    Post subject:
well it's better than the 1fps water effect i get on farcry!


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 02:29    Post subject:
razor1394 wrote:
fisk wrote:
razor1394 wrote:
Everyone saying source or Hl2, try glimpsing just under the surface. I don't know if It's only my copy that acts weird but It' kind of a hack to check the bottom fast.


Just under the surface? What are you talking about... the water in HL2 looks excellent TO ME, I don't really care what problems other people have with it.


| I don't really care.... | This thread is about water quality in game and this is infact a known bug (checked it) with the source engine which reduces the realism feeling. BTW, HL2 DX9 water doesn't look even close to what -=Cartoon=- posted.



With that screenshot, buy a new gfx card Razz /me hides


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 02:46    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:

The doom3 engine is technically capable of the best water out of any engine, but it just needs to be done.


Hahahha I laugh everytime I read your pro-doom3 comments, I knew it was you before reading the name Smile

Ohh and when I think of it, I didn't see any water in doom3, only lava and it looked great. Sure it can be moded but it's just shader code and it's the same one on every game (you could import it on an hl2 texture too). The water property themselve still need to be coded in the engine, and I didn't see the doom guy swim. (Maybe it's already in the engine and I don't know it though)
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 02:59    Post subject:
while back mchart posted a custom BIG ASS map that had everything big buildings/ water/ lighting/ everything people loved in hl2 Laughing but the map was shoddy but it did prove that d3 is capable of those things hl2 is capable of...


water was crystal clear n shit

wasn't that bad

but the custom map was badly made.... not that i can do better Very Happy... but if some more time were put into it i'm sure it would look A LOT better than anymap in hl2


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 03:06    Post subject:
Before this Source vs Doom bullshit crops up again.

http://www.devmaster.net/articles/source-vs-doom3/

SOURCE > DOOM. CASE CLOSED.


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 03:15    Post subject:
We've allready seen this many times, and if you actually still think the source engine is better graphically then the doom3 engine, you are out of your mind. Not to mention your trying to start a flame war, again. The case is closed. If you want the best of Last-Gen technology, use the source engine, if you want next gen technology, use the doom3 engine. The fact still remains, if you take the nicely crafted textures out of HL2, and replace them with them the doom3 textures, it will look like shit. Where as if you take the textures of HL2 and put them into doom3, it looks damn good. Why? Because the doom3 engine is capable of more graphically.

Injur-
http://www.pcgamemods.com/10560/ There's the new test build as well, its getting pretty cool. The in-game GUI in doom3 engine is really great. You can see this with the in-game winamp player, and the arcade games in the arcade. Its really fun scripting for it.


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 03:19    Post subject:
ruffle my o!

no one gives a fuck which engine is better. A person who does is an asshole Very Happy source has its ups n downs and so does d3.

d3 has the atmosphere

hl2 has the pace

both games are basically tech demos so fuck it Very Happy

TALK ABOUT THE WATER Very Happy

i remember goin fishin under the 400... and i remember staring at the muddy running water Shocked man it looked like hl2 water in those screenies ( the official valve hl2 screenies). But then the water calmed down and it looked nothing like hl2 Very Happy

I like water that matches the game. Sources water matches hl2. but not css dods an not hldm... d3 water will match d3 in any form Very Happy d3 expansion/mod/another game/ everything Very Happy

Water in urban chaos was cool back in its day Very Happy ripple effects n shit Very Happy reflections it was cool…. Heck Zelda had good water… Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 03:21    Post subject:
Anyways, here is another GREAT game with water.


Lol, I search for ingame water, and thats what it shows me on google.
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 03:26    Post subject:
damn those birds are damn sexy


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 03:30    Post subject:
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We've allready seen this many times, and if you actually still think the source engine is better graphically then the doom3 engine, you are out of your mind. Not to mention your trying to start a flame war, again. The case is closed. If you want the best of Last-Gen technology, use the source engine, if you want next gen technology, use the doom3 engine


Jesus christ do you have some sort of spidey sense for when anyone criticises the Doom engine?

Anyway, I was trying to stop a flamewar before it started. I'm going away to Milan for 4 days so I wasn't trying to start one because I won't be here! I believe you are the one who started this hypothetical "Doom 3 could potentially have the best water and also make love to me while making my breakfast" shit.

I prefer the Source graphics. They are more realistic IMO. Ok?


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 03:35    Post subject:
Yes, thats fine, but when you make a statement like this (and I quote) -
"SOURCE > DOOM. CASE CLOSED."

Well, you see my point. And technically, yes, the doom3 engine would have better looking water effects, just because of the fact that it is more capable. If you wanted to make a game, and not have to do much working with the engine to make the game, then yes, the source engine would be a better choice. But if you need better graphics, or just about anything, you would most likely choose the doom3 engine, if you could put the work in to have it to work with your game. Its a trade off with both.


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