Best water in a game ?
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Nailbiter
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 03:35    Post subject:
have a nice trip dryan. Smile

oh yeah and best water is in contra just as mchart showed us all.
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 03:39    Post subject:
milan? Shocked Crying or Very sad
so you takin teh missus up foe a fancy trip?

who'd she catch you in bed w/ to win a four day trip to italy Laughing

the paper-lady? milk-lady? what else is there... gawd... ummm... mail-lady?

i wish i had money to go to fancy italian places Crying or Very sad i can't even afford an italian hooker Crying or Very sad i gotta go for the russian ones and they got some spores and sores it's so disgusting but I guess that’s what you get when you ask out yer own mom Crying or Very sad I’m so lonely Sad


NOW TALK ABOOT WATER!


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milan is in italy right? Laughing


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enzi666




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 03:53    Post subject:
-=Cartoon=- wrote:
oh shit yeah i forgot about VSK3 water.. thats prolly the best actually




damn, this looks like a postcard. fantastic!

My vote goes to hl2. it looks very realistic. far cry is more comic style.

bahh, I can't write any more. I played 10 hours WoW today so forgive me.


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iam really looking forward to the time that the games look REAL cause u dont have update your pc than.................. cause it cant look more real than real !
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Mchart




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 04:27    Post subject:
The problem with HL2's water is that it has nice reflections, but other then that, is crap. It ALWAYS looks like calm sunrise water.
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aidid
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 04:34    Post subject:
Sigh.. people forget that the nicest looking water doesn't make it "best." I bet HL2 could have blown everything away if they decided to make it look like a tropical paradise, like Farcry. But the fact is that HL2's water is the most realistic, and people seem to miss that fact.
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Mchart




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 05:05    Post subject:
aidid wrote:
Sigh.. people forget that the nicest looking water doesn't make it "best." I bet HL2 could have blown everything away if they decided to make it look like a tropical paradise, like Farcry. But the fact is that HL2's water is the most realistic, and people seem to miss that fact.


Most realistic? When I look at farcry and HL2, Farcry's seems much better looking from above AND below the surface. Lots of games could have made their water to look better, whats your point? We are comparing whats what.
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 05:44    Post subject:
Jesus fucking christ
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 06:03    Post subject:
hahe wrote:
Jesus fucking christ


... not quite


Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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Bet




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 07:47    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:
The next thing to do with the ps water is to simulate waves like in real life.
Huge waves or tiny waves. It will eat a shitload of resources, but man I cant wait untill that becomes a reality Smile

Pacific Fighters (IL-2 engine ahoy) does this, though you do need to ramp up the water detail to see it. Makes use of Pixel Shader 3.0, and it's damn impressive, even though most of the time you're high enough that the water is just pretty - hard to make out wave action. Playing with the camera can lead to surprising payoffs, with this in mind. And of course, you need a good system to be able to enable it without killing your framerate.

I still remember when I bought a brand-new Geforce 4400, barely a month on the shelf, and loaded up the Nvidia Tidepool tech demo. Even today I get the giggles at the memory of playing with that thing. Tech demos usually have the best water, afraid to say. The best everything. But they're just tech demos. I have many gigs worth of them, though, for when I want to sodomize my eyes Twisted Evil
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 07:58    Post subject:
Farcrys water looks too fake to me, just like everything else in the game. I'm not denying that everything looks pretty, but the characters look plastic and the water looks like it's made out of mercury from a distance.



Half-lifes water does look more realistic, but thats not what we're really debating here. Personally, for shear beauty I would say everquest 2's water takes the cake.



It looks a hell of alot better in game, especially when it's reacting to you swimming through it. Also with bloom on it seems to have this mystical glow, which add massively to the fantasy atmosphere.
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 10:22    Post subject:
Oddmaker - It wasn't my screenshot. It was taken from a test where they comparised DirectX 7, 8, 9. That screenshot was taken from DX 9 with a top of the line card. I've also seen people play the game with X800XT's on max settings and I wasn't impressed either.
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 15:40    Post subject:
FarCry definitely. waves on the beach, overall water and underwater all look very amazing !!
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 23:01    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:


Doom 3?
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 23:12    Post subject:
yop


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 23:21    Post subject:
looks ok, but pretty simple though
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Mchart




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 23:28    Post subject:
Yeah, just needs some shorline work, and some more rough water work, and it will be pretty good. Runs great to, and the guys that coded it coded it in a way where its not very optimised. So there is much room for improvement.
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Feb 2005 23:59    Post subject:
for me the water in 3d mark 05 game 03 Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Feb 2005 00:34    Post subject:
MaNdO wrote:
for me the water in 3d mark 05 game 03 Very Happy


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Mchart




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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Feb 2005 01:02    Post subject:
The water in that seems more fake then farcry water though.
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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Feb 2005 01:05    Post subject:
got a more high res screen of it?

or a close up?


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Mchart




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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Feb 2005 01:08    Post subject:
bum^ wrote:
got a more high res screen of it?

or a close up?


Of what? The d3 water?
http://cratematch.doom3reference.com/water.zip

Run it for yourself. Load the water mod, then type "map water" in the console. Sadly the test map for the water isnt the cool one you see there, its this little map, but you still get the general feel for it. Read the readme file if you want to make a basic map to test it some more. There is also a command which you must type to get some certain effect to work with the water, but I dont know what it is.
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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Feb 2005 01:20    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
The water in that seems more fake then farcry water though.


I disagree Smile


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Mchart




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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Feb 2005 01:22    Post subject:
http://www.3dmark.com/products/3dmark05/images/3dmark05_shot05_big.jpg
The shoreline well.. There is no shoreline effect. It's just plain reflection effects, and nothing more. Realistically the doom3 water looks better in its early stages if you were to place it in a nice looking map like that.
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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Feb 2005 01:27    Post subject:
Well we havent seen it in that kind of map yet, so lets not make any conclusions Smile


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Mchart




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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Feb 2005 01:32    Post subject:
Huh? Whats your point? The water is the water is the water. The only reason the 3dmark05 water looks so good, is because the surrounding enviroment in 3dmark05 looks so good.
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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Feb 2005 01:34    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
Huh? Whats your point? The water is the water is the water. The only reason the 3dmark05 water looks so good, is because the surrounding enviroment in 3dmark05 looks so good.


maybe I still think it looks better then the D3 water...


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Mchart




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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Feb 2005 01:46    Post subject:
Oh, no, thats fine.
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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Feb 2005 02:11    Post subject:
Does urine count? If so then Postal gets my vote.
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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Feb 2005 02:31    Post subject:
razor1394 wrote:
Oddmaker - It wasn't my screenshot. It was taken from a test where they comparised DirectX 7, 8, 9. That screenshot was taken from DX 9 with a top of the line card. I've also seen people play the game with X800XT's on max settings and I wasn't impressed either.


I was only messin Wink But yeah that screenie didnt look good for some reason.


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