Mount and Blade Warband
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zmed




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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Apr 2010 10:21    Post subject:
Forgot to say: I take back my previous statement about the lack of bandits. You just ahve to know where to look. Looters are generally around the Praven coastline, but can be found almost anywhere, even though they are very rare.

Forest bandits are in the Swadian forests, mountain bandits are in the Rhodok mountains, sea raiders are on the shores around the nord-vaegir borders, and the rest are in their respective regions (tundra/steppe/desert).

Also it seems they are in abundance when one of their lairs ae spawned, after it's destroyed you can pretty much only mop the stragglers up, but will have a hard time finding any until a new hideout appears.
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Rifleman




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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Apr 2010 17:03    Post subject:
1 thing is bothering me - it seems that DEV team really doesn't care about mods and single player players. Game still got so many things to fix by mods in game - for example something obvious - for each prisoner you got 50 gold. That's interesting becouse trader you sell them to says that he is trying to get cash from families. So... poor looter got family that pays 50g and heavy knight doesn't have rich family too ? Knights = nobles?


harballaz wrote:
Hey dont be so hard the little console eunuchs, they need time to aim their lil vibratin thumbstick.
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Timester




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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Apr 2010 17:42    Post subject:
Right now, the single player campaign has so many bugs and unbalanced things that takes the joy out of it.

For example, I managed to conquer the Rhodoks with my independent kingdom and since is very hard to defend a realm without lords (the Nords and the Vaergis decided to attack me), went to give my vassalage to Swabia. The moment I left Praven, I'm considered a rebel and now I have Swabia, Nord and Vaergis attacking me...

Also, it's the Lord recruitment system is borked. The other kingdom's lords are HARD to be convinced (even those that getting beaten over and over again), so I'm force to make my companions "lords", which makes even more hard to convince the other lords...
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Smikis.




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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Apr 2010 19:35    Post subject:
Timester wrote:
Right now, the single player campaign has so many bugs and unbalanced things that takes the joy out of it.

For example, I managed to conquer the Rhodoks with my independent kingdom and since is very hard to defend a realm without lords (the Nords and the Vaergis decided to attack me), went to give my vassalage to Swabia. The moment I left Praven, I'm considered a rebel and now I have Swabia, Nord and Vaergis attacking me...

Also, it's the Lord recruitment system is borked. The other kingdom's lords are HARD to be convinced (even those that getting beaten over and over again), so I'm force to make my companions "lords", which makes even more hard to convince the other lords...


this is why its better to play mods for original game.. and wait half year till major mods get ported or new created
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Apr 2010 21:54    Post subject:
Patch 4, either from that FTP I posted earlier (Patch/Game download link, game works as a demo without altering the EXE or using a legal serial similar to the first M&B) here's a link to Steam with the changelist.

http://store.steampowered.com/news/3667/
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Sexie




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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Apr 2010 22:34    Post subject:
What mods do you guys recommend ?

im playing with "Native Expansion" ...


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syke247




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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Apr 2010 23:22    Post subject:
Native Expansion would be my recommendation.

Also there was one, I'm not sure of the name (Expanded Gameplay?) that has a shortcut for an XP->health transfer (like once every 5 minutes). I found it a great way to cheat without getting lost in infinite health.


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Smikis.




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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Apr 2010 23:46    Post subject:
Sexie wrote:
What mods do you guys recommend ?

im playing with "Native Expansion" ...


used to play native expansion but grown bored with how unbalanced that mod became... win tourney , hire custom heroes.. get shitloads of cavalry.. steamroll everyone

so decided some others. currently enjoying prophecy of pendor, great big mod give it a go...
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Rifleman




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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Apr 2010 23:58    Post subject:
http://www.mbrepository.com/file.php?id=904
Hmm nothing special when looking on changelog.
Works w/o problem with MB:W?


harballaz wrote:
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shole




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010 00:25    Post subject:
i wouldn't try any mods that might come up for warband until the bugs get weeded out from the code
it's pretty hairy at the moment

the western mod for regular m&b was a lot of fun
fun having duels and gunning down indians
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Timester




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010 00:37    Post subject:
Even with all the bugs, the game is pure fun. The best moment for me in the game so far was when I defended a castle on siege with 60 Swabian Knights against 250 Nords.Decided to make an epic stand on that little ladder and killed 30 soldiers and then runned back to the castle to not be killed. Very Happy
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010 01:21    Post subject:
Oh my god. Just had the most epic defense ever. I held off 270 Vaegirs with my 60 man mix of Huscarls, Mumelaks and Khergit archers. The Huscarls are pretty damn fucking awesome, they just boarded the enemy siege tower and cut about 150 men down by themselves.
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Smikis.




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010 01:43    Post subject:
Rifleman wrote:
http://www.mbrepository.com/file.php?id=904
Hmm nothing special when looking on changelog.
Works w/o problem with MB:W?


ignorant much ? and no it doesnt work with warband.. seriously ?
Quote:

Too many things to list here, but they're listed here: http://forums.taleworlds.net/index.php/topic,49800.0.html


since when repository even have change list or feature list.. seriously?

are you searching for mods in it too? there is big ass forum for a reason..
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soldat37




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010 01:45    Post subject:
Ya lots of bugs,it also says when you try to pay for a ransomed prisoner when a lord asks you to rescue them,the option comes up "not implemented yet"

Also I completed a quest to fight a lord that was after a lady I was courting.I cannot go see the lady now so that quest is stuck and has been for 50 days.

Also I have noticed that when I have lords that are prisoners with me I cannot sell them to ransom brokers or put them in prison.Their are a lot of things that need fixing and I don't see much difference from the original M&B in this expansion.

That said I love the game and own both.I love the 100 years war mod for the original.
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ffy




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010 03:25    Post subject:
im enjoying the shit out of this game!

currently im a lvl 20ish vassal for the nords, and let me tell you, huscarls kick ass!
tbh it seems like i havent found a spot i couldnt hold by swining my two handed axe, backed up by 15-25 huscarls, backed up by 15-20 nord veterans Wink

managed to take a castle with 200 men in it with this party, but the king said 'oh good job heres 900 gold, im taking the castle because you already have some bullshit poor village to manage'

oh also, regarding the lords that you have as prisoners - just keep them in your party prison or throw them in a dungeon and wait, theres a small chance they escape but usually, after a while, you get a popup saying that their king is offering around 2000 money for each

ive found some bugs, but tbh they dont take away from the fun.
mind im playing it on my lenovo s10 netbook right now, cant wait to get back home to my real computer and play it when it runs smoothly
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010 08:00    Post subject:
Nearly managed to conquer Swadia for one of those "outcasts" that claim to be rightful rulers of the land, then the king of the land, all his vassals and lords returns from the Sarranid Sultunate and headed straight for me, didn't last, I guess I was close though.




(Changed the battle size limit, there's a utility for it on M&B Repository but it just changes a single line in the settings file so it's easier to tweak manually, had around 500 troops limit but they still spawned in waves so the fight took a while as I acted quite cowardly to pick off separated troops, most of my own forces while quite effective were knocked out and even killed rather early in the battle however.)
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Rifleman




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010 10:42    Post subject:
Quote:

are you searching for mods in it too? there is big ass forum for a reason..

You don't know me,but NO, I AM NOT IGNORANT. I know how use google, trust me. Yesterday official forum was down so I came here for help.
But of course I had to meet some smart ass. Always on duty?
Waiting for new patch by Skidrow...1.04..

BTW
Since forum is up:
Version 1.104 changes:
Fixed multi-player server list not being populated in some cases.
Fixed game freezing on some systems when the monitor was set to a non-native resolution
Fixed some textures being showed as black on some systems.

Version 1.103 changes:
Added option to set couched-lance control to manual/automatic
Fixed translation for Polish, Hungarian and Czech languages
Fixed bug that caused the player lose his fiefs when he switched to another kingdom.
Various other bug fixes.


harballaz wrote:
Hey dont be so hard the little console eunuchs, they need time to aim their lil vibratin thumbstick.
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D4rkKnight




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010 11:00    Post subject:
ffy wrote:
im enjoying the shit out of this game!

currently im a lvl 20ish vassal for the nords, and let me tell you, huscarls kick ass!
tbh it seems like i havent found a spot i couldnt hold by swining my two handed axe, backed up by 15-25 huscarls, backed up by 15-20 nord veterans Wink

managed to take a castle with 200 men in it with this party, but the king said 'oh good job heres 900 gold, im taking the castle because you already have some bullshit poor village to manage'

oh also, regarding the lords that you have as prisoners - just keep them in your party prison or throw them in a dungeon and wait, theres a small chance they escape but usually, after a while, you get a popup saying that their king is offering around 2000 money for each

ive found some bugs, but tbh they dont take away from the fun.
mind im playing it on my lenovo s10 netbook right now, cant wait to get back home to my real computer and play it when it runs smoothly


Thats whats funny about Warband, what you just described is Mount and Blade, not Warband. Not a single thing listed there is new in this expansion. The single player in general is like a small mod with some nice features but very very lackluster in comparison to user made mods available for a year or so now.

The multiplayer is what makes Warband worth its price, but they really did a poor job on singleplayer.
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ffy




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010 11:10    Post subject:
D4rkKnight wrote:
Thats whats funny about Warband, what you just described is Mount and Blade, not Warband. Not a single thing listed there is new in this expansion. The single player in general is like a small mod with some nice features but very very lackluster in comparison to user made mods available for a year or so now.

The multiplayer is what makes Warband worth its price, but they really did a poor job on singleplayer.


before i installed warband i installed the regular one, because i thought it might play better on a low-performance computer like this, but there was no difference. i liked the war map better than the one in the original, maybe because i was already used to it (from installing and trying warband on my real comp before i left). for older players, theres the question that if theres next to no difference between the two, why even bother with warband. but for a new player its the opposite, if theres no difference, why even bother with the original?
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010 12:47    Post subject:
i dont get this game, wasnt it like a beyond indie type release thing a while back, and suddenly alot of fuss i hear about it.. although youtube vids ive seen dont grasp me, it seems more of a relentless hack and slash with some map moving thrown in..

correct me if im wrong here, but what depth does this really have>?
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zmed




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010 13:12    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
i dont get this game, wasnt it like a beyond indie type release thing a while back, and suddenly alot of fuss i hear about it.. although youtube vids ive seen dont grasp me, it seems more of a relentless hack and slash with some map moving thrown in..

correct me if im wrong here, but what depth does this really have>?
The best way is to simply quote a review.

Quote:
I kept asking myself, “What the hell is the mass appeal of this game? Why are there so many rabid cultists following this title? I’m a gamer of almost 30 years. How am I not part of this ‘in’ crowd?” I found myself only able to sit with the game for 20 – 25 minutes at a time. After a while, I just stopped thinking about the game. Afterall, I had a kill ratio to keep up in Battlefield Bad Company 2 and I still had about 1,000,000 more colonels to assassinate in Just Cause 2.

Then I got my hands on the full version of the Mount & Blade: Warband. I decided to give it an honest-to-god second try. I’m glad I did.

And now… I get it. I feel like I’m part of the “in” crowd now.

Mount and Blade: Warband is a great game. It’s fantastic. It’s addictive. I want to take a day off of work to do nothing but play it. For the past few nights, I forcefully had to to stop myself from playing and go to bed sometime before 3:00 AM. (Don’t tell my wife. She’d kill me if she knew what time I was coming to bed. I’ve been using the excuse “Oh, I’m just coming back from the bathroom” when she catches me.) I foresee many more near-sleepless nights to come because of this game, too.

It has no real depth (no story, just an open world to make your adventuring in, with a few things to spice things up a little). It's fucking addictive and great fun.

On the other hand I don't get what's the fuss with that DOTA thing and it's gazzillionth clone about. Never tried it, but might get around to it and find the next time-sink. Who knows? I sure won't until I try.

So I suggest you grab the skidrow release of Warband, apply the latest cracked patch (1.02-something IIRC), give it an honest and long time to let itself unfold, and I'm sure you'll have a great time.

At least I am yet to encounter a single person who honestly and with a straight face could say that they played more than 5 hours and still couldn't like it despite it's flaws.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010 13:30    Post subject:
hmmmm...... after that im still not convinced Very Happy

and messing about with a real buggy singleplayer side to it apparently is a bit of a bind.. Who knows maybe ill leech it later see how it first comes across..

gee seems a small game as well to leech, does it really have that much in it like 10mins to download hehe..
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Timester




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010 13:36    Post subject:
I'm starting to hate the Swabian douchebag lords. Guys, if I have a huge renown and a badass army behind me, I don't care about lawyers...

At least the Nords are honest (though their ideal of strenght doesn't fit on any of the answers we can give).
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010 15:31    Post subject:
installed it,,,,

what an odd game hehe.. combat is ok, but not sure about the rest of it yet... had ass handed to me all the time even trying to start off finding 5 recruits.. oh well, later ill try some more but i dont see it having a big hold over my time like some sudgest..
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BloodAngel




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010 15:59    Post subject:
which do u recommend i install...this or the original + Expansion?

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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010 16:06    Post subject:
What. Warband is stand-alone.
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010 16:09    Post subject:
He meant the "expansion" mod mentioned earlier I think.
(Which is for the original game.)
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BloodAngel




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010 16:12    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
He meant the "expansion" mod mentioned earlier I think.
(Which is for the original game.)


yep thats what i meant Smile


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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010 16:14    Post subject:
Oh. Well, if you're going with the original M&B, Prophecy of Pendor is by far the best mod available.
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BloodAngel




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Apr 2010 16:19    Post subject:
should i install this new Warband or go with the original M&B + the prophecy of pendor?


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