[XBOX360] Red Dead Redemption
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 17:50    Post subject:
Stop being an ignorant bastard tbh. (Then again, look at who I'm talking to)

I'm not fanboying the 360. I'm buying this for PS3, and it's just a sad fact that it looks worse.

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deelix
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 17:52    Post subject:
bah, stop flaming. Informative posts kthx Smile

(And please stop using tbh all the time Very Happy )
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 17:53    Post subject:
What can I say, I'm an honest guy tbh.

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Oh, and I'm not really flaming, Twobells is just trolling tbh.
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 17:59    Post subject:
tbh how can you knock one over the other unless you had both in front of you on your own tv? just being honest Razz
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 18:00    Post subject:
Yes let´s not flame, but quting review scores like that and claim one is better than the other is just Laughing . We need more in depth compares but it would not surprise me if PS3 is slightly "worse". We have seen this on many multi platform games now so what´s the surprise. It is when a game is developed specifically for the PS3 it really shines. That´s why I have a PS3 too! Very Happy

Oh and btw - IGN scores:
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/109/1090125p3.html
9.5 graphics

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/109/1090380p3.html
9.5 graphics

They are most likely very on par!
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 18:02    Post subject:
Well, even tho ps3 version is 640p it got 9,5/10 on the GFX tab in the ign review Smile
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btw, will you get new story missions in New Austin after you are done in Mexico? (spoiler answer if needed)
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twobells
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 18:04    Post subject:
People shouldn't flame like this, what is is about is setting the record straight, some people here suggested that the PS3 version was inferior, all I did was post the IGN review to promote balance.

As for the personal attacks using those tired old labels well that's just typical of this type of individual on NFO and they should grow up.


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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 18:08    Post subject:
Its shit test anyhow. Review scores have to be subjectual to their platform. It got 9.5 on the ps3 relating to all other software on the ps3. You can't translate the score directly against another platform, it doesn't work like that.

Wait for the digital foundry platform comparison (they actually do this properly).
I suspect RDR runs a tweaked version of the engine used for ballard of gay tony. If thats the case, xbox runs at 720p native while PS3 is sub HD. FPS and anti aliasing is also a factor. PS3 only outdoes the xbox on sound as it can supply uncompressed 5.1 which the xbox can't.

Again, have to wait and see. Probably later this week.


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twobells
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 18:10    Post subject:
grimmmy wrote:
Its shit test anyhow. Review scores have to be subjectual to their platform. It got 9.5 on the ps3 relating to all other software on the ps3. You can't translate the score directly against another platform, it doesn't work like that.

Wait for the digital foundry platform comparison (they actually do this properly). If its anything like the GTAIV (and the latter ones they did on the GTA Episodes), then graphically the xbox will be superiour, but PS3 wins on sound due to supluing uncompressed 5.1.


Test?
Who said anything about a test?
The games across the platforms will always be different, so better in some areas some worse.
All I wanted to do was set the record straight which had been based on early reviews with a release review from IGN.




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 18:12    Post subject:
twobells wrote:

Test?
Who said anything about a test?


Ok, comparison would be a better word
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 18:19    Post subject:
grapper wrote:
Yes let´s not flame, but quting review scores like that and claim one is better than the other is just Laughing . We need more in depth compares but it would not surprise me if PS3 is slightly "worse". We have seen this on many multi platform games now so what´s the surprise. It is when a game is developed specifically for the PS3 it really shines. That´s why I have a PS3 too! Very Happy

Oh and btw - IGN scores:
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/109/1090125p3.html
9.5 graphics

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/109/1090380p3.html
9.5 graphics

They are most likely very on par!




This is the 360 score on UK IGN which gives the graphics 9.0, the problem is that US people see a different score according to the US review scores.
In the UK, Europe & Asia (Not AU) we see the UK review which states it's a 9.0 rather than the 9.5 on the US link

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/109/1090145p3.html

In fact the AU IGN Review gives the PS3 graphics 10.0 and the 360 9.5.........

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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 18:35    Post subject:
any idea where i can find skunk's and foxes?


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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 18:49    Post subject:
Stop interpreting too much into such scores, they just rate it by rule-of-the-thumb.
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twobells
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 18:54    Post subject:
murgo wrote:
any idea where i can find skunk's and foxes?


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I don't think anyone is interpreting anything, just setting some balance against accusations of inferiority.


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tw1st




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 18:58    Post subject:
I dont want to start anything, I just wanted to get some facts.

So it has been proven that the ps3 version is less perfect than the 360 one?

I actually went out and bought the 360 version today, so now I own both console versions. I will compare them side by side when I get home.....

One thing I noticed right off the bat, the 360 case states it can go 1080p, the ps3 version only says 720p. I tried forcing 1080p on the PS3 game last night but it reverted back to 480P...

I'm not a fanboy of either console (I think both are amazing), but I want to get the best experience out of this game, and right now it looks like the 360 has that....

playing the ps3 version last night, I noticed slowdowns in Armadillo, slowdowns that I did not get on the 360....


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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 19:08    Post subject:
tw1st wrote:
I dont want to start anything, I just wanted to get some facts.

So it has been proven that the ps3 version is less perfect than the 360 one?


Nope the opposite in fact if you listen to anything IGN says, both the UK & AU sites (which cover everywhere BUT the US) give the PS3 higher scores for graphics.

twist wrote:
One thing I noticed right off the bat, the 360 case states it can go 1080p, the ps3 version only says 720p. I tried forcing 1080p on the PS3 game last night but it reverted back to 480P...


That's deceitful, the 360 version is nowhere near 1080P, not even 720p if you believe what different pundits wrote about the game's resolution.

tw1st wrote:
I'm not a fanboy of either console (I think both are amazing), but I want to get the best experience out of this game, and right now it looks like the 360 has that....


We all do.

tw1st wrote:
playing the ps3 version last night, I noticed slowdowns in Armadillo, slowdowns that I did not get on the 360....


I'll check on Friday myself, but thanks for your input and no you didn't 'start' anything actually, you made some insightful remarks.


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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 19:20    Post subject:
ps3 version looks and runs like shit, as proven by screenshots and witnesses who played both versions. can we move back to gameplay discussion now?
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 19:25    Post subject:
Thnx tb,

Guess we'll have to wait to see an actual side by side. Also thanks for all the info you've posted here for us bud.


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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 19:44    Post subject:
nenoriu wrote:
ps3 version looks and runs like shit, as proven by screenshots and witnesses who played both versions. can we move back to gameplay discussion now?


Now that's what I call trolling.

Gonna get the PS3 version on friday myself (simply because I want to play online and don't want to throw money into Micro$ofts face. Well that and, I don't buy 360 games anymore if I can buy the PS3 version, simply because. You know, with Microsoft being founded by the devil and all).

And just to clear that up for myself.
I didn't think tb was trolling he was posting links to ign reviews. How's that trolling? O.o

Let's just wait and see if the guys over at, what was that place called? Digital Foundry? do a comparison of the two. Then you'll all know.
(Why anyone would really care, except for massive slow downs, I don't know anyway).
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me7




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 19:50    Post subject:
Because some people still don't know:
No real X360 or PS3 game runs at 1080p. There are arcade games with primitive graphics that can do 1080p and a few retail games, but very very few. The games usually render at 720p or lower, when you select a higher resolution the picture is just upscaled.

GTA IV ran at 1280x720 with 2xAA on X360 while the PS3 version used 1152x640 with no AA and the X360 version still had a better framerate (see here for details http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/grand-theft-auto-iv-ps3-vs-xbox-360-special-article?page=2 ). Since this game uses the same engine I expect the performance to be similar
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 19:56    Post subject:
has anybody got the system link to work? or is there some dlc to get it to work?
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 20:03    Post subject:
Reklis wrote:

Let's just wait and see if the guys over at, what was that place called? Digital Foundry? do a comparison of the two. Then you'll all know.
(Why anyone would really care, except for massive slow downs, I don't know anyway).


That's the thing really, I could give 2 shits about the resolution being sub-HD. However, playing last night on the PS3 I walked into the armadillo saloon at night, and it felt like I was getting no more then 15 frames per second. It felt like shit... Then I leave the saloon get on my horse, start turning around and I could feel how low the FPS was even outside of the saloon.

Now I wait for the: "Man, wtf! it's just stupid minor shit, look passed it and enjoy the fucking game"

I installed 2 PS3 updates before I could play the game.... wonder if that could have anything to do with the slowdowns....

I really hope I'm wrong about this, and that I just smoked some really good weed last night that impaired my vision.


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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 20:24    Post subject:
tw1st wrote:

I installed 2 PS3 updates before I could play the game.... wonder if that could have anything to do with the slowdowns....


That would actually be nice to know so I could just not install them when I get the game Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 20:38    Post subject:
Reklis wrote:
tw1st wrote:

I installed 2 PS3 updates before I could play the game.... wonder if that could have anything to do with the slowdowns....


That would actually be nice to know so I could just not install them when I get the game Very Happy


Lol, ya, its just too bad you HAVE to install them to be able to play RDR


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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 20:40    Post subject:
We'll know on Friday..and I for one will be quick to make my feelings clear if the game is less than perfect on the PS3.
However, like Reklis I want it to play MP, and don't want to believe three major game review websites could be wrong about giving the PS3 high scores, I am hoping it was Tw1st's updating but like always I hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

ps: that's the end of it as far as I am concerned till after the week-end when I'll put up a small PS3 comparison review.




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 20:42    Post subject:
rumors about delorean are true ? If yes where you can find it ?
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 20:44    Post subject:
michu64 wrote:
rumors about delorean are true ? If yes where you can find it ?


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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 21:19    Post subject:
final post about this ps3 vs. xbox360 thing from me.

Just wanted to post one pic of the PS3 Version, look at all dem jaggies'!

Also a 360 vs. PS3 review, never heard of this site before though..

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/05/read-dead-redemption-360-vs-ps3-our-thoughts.ars

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This is non-scientific, but after playing an hour of both games, and switching back and forth between the two systems on our display, it's clear that the 360 version has quite the graphical advantage. It's sharper, with much less aliasing. The faces of the characters were clearer in the opening section. Gameplay sections likewise looked better, with smoother graphics across the board. The PlayStation 3 version looked impressive, but there was a noticeable jump in quality while playing on the 360.


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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 21:46    Post subject:
You could have posted the significant part of that review, couldn't you?
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Keep in mind that the game doesn't look bad on the PS3—not by any stretch—but based on our time with the game and direct comparisons, the 360 version looks better. If you purchase the PS3 version of the game you're not going to be let down, but if you have the choice, pick up a copy for the 360


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PostPosted: Tue, 18th May 2010 22:13    Post subject:
Reklis wrote:
You could have posted the significant part of that review, couldn't you?
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Keep in mind that the game doesn't look bad on the PS3—not by any stretch—but based on our time with the game and direct comparisons, the 360 version looks better. If you purchase the PS3 version of the game you're not going to be let down, but if you have the choice, pick up a copy for the 360


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Actually, i think the last sentence of his quote covered that.


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