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| Lord_IpwnU wrote: | | You never thought it would become real (so soon) did you? |
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| Posted: Fri, 28th May 2010 17:06 Post subject: |
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bayonetta is actually a decent game lol
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| Posted: Fri, 28th May 2010 17:08 Post subject: |
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Hmm may be it's got something to do with master race logic but my argument was: games are being developed for the feeble race (the target audience: console kiddies) nowadays,. Just because it has a hard mode doesn't justify the simplicity of current gen games' being for complete dimwits. And I said: "prince of persia is dumbed down for console crowd combowise" isn't it true? Have you played the WW and T2T games? So if you question my master race logic, where's the rationality in retorting with a kind of chewbacca defense "another game is hard so no games get dumbed down for consoles" Tell me please. This is what your console buddy said.
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| Posted: Fri, 28th May 2010 17:14 Post subject: |
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Console gamers are like Muslims these days; they can criticize themselves and their games in closed circles, but if, god forbid, someone from the outside criticizes it, then they stand united against the "master race" no matter how shitty the game and how dumb the target demographic.
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| Posted: Fri, 28th May 2010 17:16 Post subject: |
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its lulz when you rationalize whole console gaming based on a few bad apples. lol 
pc games also are dumbed down for kiddies. look at all of those dora the explorer game.
lulz
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| Posted: Fri, 28th May 2010 17:21 Post subject: |
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Coming from an islamic country I would say 'no.' If muslims could criticise and question the 'thing' that made them that way, they wouldn't be muslims anymore. They don't criticise themselves intellectually or to be precise thoughtwise. But if you mean other matters, possibly something materialistic, yes they criticise themselves but since you said: 'someone from outside' I gather it's got something to with mind/ethos and religion so no, they are not allowed nor they are enthusiasts to criticize themselves. Console players, are far better than muslims in my mind.
Even though funny analogy you did there : ) <3
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| Posted: Fri, 28th May 2010 17:23 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | Console gamers are like Muslims these days; they can criticize themselves and their games in closed circles, but if, god forbid, someone from the outside criticizes it, then they stand united against the "master race" no matter how shitty the game and how dumb the target demographic. |
gaming has been going downhill since before xboxes and playstations.
yes majority of console games are childish and simple and pathetic and what not.
but as can be said for consoles can be said about pcs
i mean a lot of top end amazing games for pc show off mainly the engine
whereas the entire game is weak.
there are a couple gems. hl2
as can be said about one, same can be said about the other.
tho the lulz part is the pc master race always resorts to console graphic comparisons
its major lulz
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| Posted: Fri, 28th May 2010 17:29 Post subject: |
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| Lord_IpwnU wrote: | Coming from an islamic country I would say 'no.' If muslims could criticise and question the 'thing' that made them that way, they wouldn't be muslims anymore. They don't criticise themselves intellectually or to be precise thoughtwise. But if you mean other matters, possibly something materialistic, yes they criticise themselves but since you said: 'someone from outside' I gather it's got something to with mind/ethos and religion so no, they are not allowed nor they are enthusiasts to criticize themselves. Console players, are far better than muslims in my mind.
Even though funny analogy you did there : ) <3 |
That's not really true, not every Muslim agrees with the vocal militant Islam and their terror actions, but you haven't heard a real criticism, have you? At least not openly to everyone. I do know that they do criticize the militant actions quite a lot on Muslim television shows, but when someone says "Islam is all about terror and murder" (because this is what most people see), everyone immediately shuts down and go the same silly "West doesn't understand Islam" mantra, instead of addressing the somewhat truth to these claims and denouncing the one that have caused this image on Islam. This is what I meant.  |
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cobALT
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| Posted: Fri, 28th May 2010 17:50 Post subject: |
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| Lord_IpwnU wrote: | | Hmm may be it's got something to do with master race logic but my argument was: games are being developed for the feeble race (the target audience: console kiddies) nowadays,. Just because it has a hard mode doesn't justify the simplicity of current gen games' being for complete dimwits. And I said: "prince of persia is dumbed down for console crowd combowise" isn't it true? Have you played the WW and T2T games? So if you question my master race logic, where's the rationality in retorting with a kind of chewbacca defense "another game is hard so no games get dumbed down for consoles" Tell me please. This is what your console buddy said. |
My point was that games always had multiple difficulty levels, it didn't happened with consoles.
As long as a game gives me the option to chose the game difficulty, I see no harm in including extra-mega-easy mode for those who just want to play games casually. There's no harm in making, for ex. , a game like Bayonetta/PoP with an accessable mode for those casual players but at the same time keeping it challenging enough for the hardcore fanbase. Some people just don't have the time to learn (a new language or gameplay mechanics) or invest in a video game, they just want to have fun for a couple of hours.
Yes, I have played WW and T2T. Didn't liked them too much, enjoyed the first one more.
People are complaining about TFS too much and for shitty reasons, it's not like the previous games were some puzzle masterpieces or had genre defining combat.
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I misunderstood you then because the image in my head was not terror attacks but making women live in middle ages, prohobiting sex before marriage (damn it), prohibiting alcohol, gambling, pork, beating people if they don't go on a fast and don't do their prayers, condemning dog owners, praising an act of pædophilia, killing a bible missionaires because they are distributing bibles, hating and killing LGBT, and so forth. They don't question and criticise most of these actions in my country. If one day they start criticising and condeming the above they probably won't be muslims anymore since koran will state the obvious opposite of their actions. May be they will stay as deists.
But you are correct militant terrorwise, they say 'Allah prohibits suicide' on tv shows but they keep assembling and educating weak souls undercoverly. And When some Jewish or Christian criticies that he becomes the 'tolerance lacking fascist infidel.' Nevertheless Agreed on terorism part.
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| Posted: Fri, 28th May 2010 17:54 Post subject: |
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| cobALT wrote: | | Lord_IpwnU wrote: | | Hmm may be it's got something to do with master race logic but my argument was: games are being developed for the feeble race (the target audience: console kiddies) nowadays,. Just because it has a hard mode doesn't justify the simplicity of current gen games' being for complete dimwits. And I said: "prince of persia is dumbed down for console crowd combowise" isn't it true? Have you played the WW and T2T games? So if you question my master race logic, where's the rationality in retorting with a kind of chewbacca defense "another game is hard so no games get dumbed down for consoles" Tell me please. This is what your console buddy said. |
My point was, games always had multiple difficulty levels, it didn't happened with consoles. As long as a game gives me the option to chose the game difficulty, I see no harm in including extra-mega-easy mode for those who just want to play games casually. There's no harm in making, for ex. , a game like Bayonetta/PoP with an accessable mode for those and at the same time keeping it challenging enough for the hardcore fanbase. Some people just don't have the time to learn (a new language or gameplay mechanics) or invest in a video game, they just want to have fun for a couple of hours.
Yes, I have played WW and T2T. Didn't liked them too much, enjoyed the first one more.
People are complaining about TFS too much and for shitty reasons, it's not like the previous games were some puzzle masterpieces or had genre defining combat. |
Yes mate but on TFS you don't have an option to choose harder combo difficulty. I also play games to have fun, I'm not a hardcore, but if a game is way too easy I consider it an insult to my intellect. This is why I skip nearly all of the sitcoms with canned laugh.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 28th May 2010 17:59 Post subject: |
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| Lord_IpwnU wrote: | | I misunderstood you then because the image in my head was not terror attacks but making women live in middle ages, prohobiting sex before marriage (damn it), prohibiting alcohol, gambling, pork, beating people if they don't go on a fast and don't do their prayers, condemning dog owners, praising an act of pædophilia, killing a bible missionaires because they are distributing bibles, hating and killing LGBT, and so forth. They don't question and criticise most of these actions in my country. If one day they start criticising and condeming the above they probably won't be muslims anymore since koran will state the obvious opposite of their actions. May be they will stay as deists. |
Where do you live? Most modernized countries don't have most of what you mention (although I assume some still live like that, but this is also true in America, Israel, etc). |
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| Posted: Fri, 28th May 2010 18:09 Post subject: |
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Turkey, it's supposed to be secular country but in some middle anatolian city universities you may get beaten because you smoke before 5-6 pm (iftar time) in Ramadan. Most of the girls don't have sex before marriage. Most of the guys don't marry with un-virgin girls, some sickos even kill their wife in the first sex night after he doesn't see blood coming out of vagina, islam prohibits alcohol, gambling and pork but luckily you can drink alcohol and eat pork in Turkey. Also gambling is illegal. In south eastern anatolia if a girl refuses to marry the one chosen by her father she may get killed. Luckiy dog owners are not condemned and it's not illegal to own one in Turkey. If you call Mohammad a pædophile amongst muslim man you'll 90% end up lynched. Bible print houses are arsoned, missionaires are killed, Macho men beat transvestites in day light to save neighbourhood's honour, but at night time they take them into their cars. Luckily my country is so-called secular so I2m not being monitored for what I say against Islam and thrown in jail. Also in countries ruled by sharia laws it's faar faaar worse. You know better than me since you're close to Palestine.
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All this in Turkey? 
All I can say is that here in Israel, we have many Muslim Arabs, and I don't see this a lot, but perhaps because I am an outsider? Jews and Muslims get along very well (not in the war zones, I am talking Arabs with Israeli citizenship, like store owners, businessmen, etc), and there is very rarely any altercation on the basis of religion.
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| Posted: Fri, 28th May 2010 18:26 Post subject: |
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Unfortunately yes. This country is a real borderline. There are really sooo good people, that make me keep going on life and there are very bad people. It must be same in every other country good-bad wise but since it's my own country it sticks in my eye first. I try to accept everyone and love them for who they are but the atrocities they commit make me sometimes go too much of a fucking elitist hatemonger. But they wear off and I become a loving person again.
By the way, has any of you seen Stoning of Soraya M.? I'm planning to watch it this sunday night.
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| Posted: Fri, 28th May 2010 18:53 Post subject: |
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| Lord_IpwnU wrote: | | Yes mate but on TFS you don't have an option to choose harder combo difficulty. I also play games to have fun, I'm not a hardcore, but if a game is way too easy I consider it an insult to my intellect. This is why I skip nearly all of the sitcoms with canned laugh. |
lol just lol
elitist much?
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