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 Posted: Mon, 7th Jun 2010 13:12 Post subject: Time for upragade, gief suggestions :) |
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So its time to upragade this machine, since i will be selling my videocards + mobo/processor and ram to friend. I cant decide should i go for AMD or Intel this time. Anyways here is some what i was looking for, gonna order next week when ill finally can decide -_-
Processor: Core i7 920, gonna OC it shitloads.
Motherboard: GA-X58A-UD5
Ram: A-Data 3x2GB, DDR3 1600MHz, CL9
GPU: HiS HD 5970
As for my use it will be for gaming + for some heavy video editing, PSU and Case + processor cooler i will be using from my current PC.
And now for my question, is this i7 setup future proof or wtf, readed somewhere that 1366 socket is dying or something. AMD released their X6 processors but dont know really are they that good. Also ehm? 1366 mobos costs like hell compared to best AM3 boards?
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Mon, 7th Jun 2010 13:45 Post subject: |
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Thanks for great answers JB! And yeah the ram isnt that good, but since this is first time i will go for DDR3 there is so shitloads of different type of memory that i will need really read abit from them to get final conclusion. And i will be using my HTPC soundcard in this build (Soundblaster X-Fi titanium).
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LeoNatan
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I'd suggest the 930 instead of 920 for overclocking. The 920 comes in G0/C0/D0 stepping flavors, out of which the D0 is the most recommended, while the 930 comes only at a D0 stepping, which is what you want anyway. Considering both CPUs are at very similar price points (and the 930 has a higher initial clock than the 920), there really is very little incentive to go for that rather than the 930, even if it is just to skip the checking of stepping. Slap a good cooler on that 930, and you are at 4.3GHz with relatively little work (provided the mother board has good overclocking capabilities). 
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Mon, 7th Jun 2010 13:56 Post subject: |
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40 euros is actually quite a big difference... See if you can't find some OEM version, or even a version without the box and stock Intel cooler - seeing as you'll be using a proper cooler, you don't really need these.
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| Posted: Mon, 7th Jun 2010 15:13 Post subject: |
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Intel's next socket isn't due until 2011 as far as I know
As for the brand choice, it's the same as always: AMD keeps up in games for the most part, but falls behind on other fronts. Difference now is that Intel CPUs overclock ridiculously well, as Leo says, the 920/930 take a 30-40% overclock without problems
Other than that you could probably do slightly better on the RAM, but it's fine really.
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| Posted: Mon, 7th Jun 2010 17:33 Post subject: |
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Thanks for answers, gonna probably buy 6gb kit of Corsair dominator and rest of the stuff what i posted. Then i can "Enjoy" from PC ports :>
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| Posted: Tue, 8th Jun 2010 09:45 Post subject: |
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intel 1366 socket is pretty much end of the line as far as intel are concerned. so not much hope of a reasonable priced cpu to upgrade to in the future.
the 920/930 cpu is still a very fast cpu though.
its been thought for some time now that AMDs next cpu generation (bulldozer) would be socket am3+ but it has never been confirmed.
amd however did say they would support socket am3 well into 2011 which suggests it
the amd 6 core cpus arent quite as fast as the cheaper i7's in alot of benchmarks though although in a few instances they are right up there with the i7 980's which may suggest once programs and games start making full use of more than 4 cores they might have the advantage but this may not come for many years.
i think its safe to say wether you go to socket 1366 or socket am3 whatever buy will still be fast enough for atleast the next 2 years.
i guess its down to whever you can justify the cost of going i7 or not as am3 can be considerably cheaper if you dont go for a top end board.
i recently upgraded to the 1055t amd chip with a fairly cheap but good gigabyte ud3h mobo and pretty much nothing can break 35% cpu usage outside of benchmarks even video transcoding only manages 40-60% cpu usage.
30% cpu usage in GTA IV pretty much says games wont use anywhere near the power a cpu can offer right now for ages.
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| Posted: Tue, 8th Jun 2010 10:03 Post subject: |
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| snoop1050 wrote: | | intel 1366 socket is pretty much end of the line as far as intel are concerned. so not much hope of a reasonable priced cpu to upgrade to in the future. |
You're wrong here, what Intel have planned for 2011 is Sandy Bridge - a lower end CPU series with IGP, and the new accomodating socket (1155). 1366 isn't up for replacement yet, although it probably won't last much beyond 2011 probably.
| snoop1050 wrote: | | the amd 6 core cpus arent quite as fast as the cheaper i7's in alot of benchmarks though although in a few instances they are right up there with the i7 980's which may suggest once programs and games start making full use of more than 4 cores they might have the advantage but this may not come for many years. |
Again, it's not that black and white. The Core architecture is what makes the Intel's so good, and Intel's hexacores blow AMD's hexacores away with ease in heavily threaded apps. For games however, none of this matters; the sweet spot for games is still at 3 cores at 3.5GHz+. Speed matters more than the amount of cores. At equal core counts and clock speeds, Intel wins hands down.
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| Posted: Tue, 8th Jun 2010 10:30 Post subject: |
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so tell me what new cpus intel have for socket 1366? its end of the line face it.
the hex core intel sockets will never be affordable during the time when owning one is viable.
i never said the x6 amd cpus can compete with the x6 intel ones all i said was when games and programs start to fully utilise 6 cores they will probably creep up on and away from the 4core intel cpus which is very likely as they can already beat them in some benchmarks
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| Posted: Tue, 8th Jun 2010 11:06 Post subject: |
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By the time [properly coded] games require six cores to properly work, and most programs for that matter, we would already have 12 core CPUs, probably three sockets in the future. 
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| Posted: Tue, 8th Jun 2010 11:29 Post subject: |
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You can't get the same performance when you overclock the 930 to 4.3GHz and enable hyperthreading. The only thing that comes at a comparable performance standpoint is Intel's own i7 860, which also has hyperthreading, but that one, from what I gather, is substantially harder to get stable overclock results than the 930.
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| Posted: Thu, 10th Jun 2010 20:26 Post subject: |
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Got myself AMD setup afterall, saved cash and still got shitloads of more performance compared to my old Q8300 setup. So far i have been running this 1055T at 4ghz (5 hours on Prime95 without errors). Need to test out more, havent tried games yet :>
Here is the setup:
Mobo: Asus-M4A89GTD PRO
CPU: Phenom II X6 1055T
RAM: 2x2GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600mhz
GPU: HiS HD5970
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