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This bit*ching about upgrades is pure stupidity.
Lets say if u buy now an i7, 5970, 6-8+ gb of ram etc, u DON'T NEED to upgrade it for 3-4 or more years, YES u will pay for it a shitload of money but u wont need to upgrade it for many years.
The best MP games are not the new ones, but the old ones;CS, CoD, DotA, etc, (from new ones ArmA 2, BC2 a maybe one or two more) so u will have a perfect lock of 333 FPSs in let say CoD4.
U dont need more then 50-60 FPS in SP game, and with that pc u will definitely have more...And now lets say in a year will come out a new "best" graphics card, and everyone will whine like they need it, like they need that 5-10 fps boost in games -.-
I have 2 yrs old pc and i can play 90% of games on high/highest settings on 1680x1050
And yes, consoles are destroying games, just look at them, they play by them self, wtf?!
How many true hardcore games came out lately?...1-3-5, 6 maybe...
Remember OFP2?, sure u do, and what did u except form that game? a game in which u really have to think, have some skill to play it, realism, good AI, an intense missions, and we all excepted it will be a true sequel to first one; and what did we get? yes, thats right, a f*cking console arcade FPS 
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2010 21:37 Post subject: |
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| human_steel wrote: | | iNatan wrote: | I miss CaptainCox  |
Where's he gone to? |
I really don't know. He had some personal problems and then vanished one day. |
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crossmr
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Jun 2010 04:00 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I have 2 yrs old pc and i can play 90% of games on high/highest settings on 1680x1050 |
I have a 3.5 year old laptop that I still play most new games on 1920x1200.
The geforce7950GTX still does a pretty good job. Heck I even played GTAIV on it up to the 3rd island.
intel ultra 7 265k, 64gb ram, 3070
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Jun 2010 15:11 Post subject: |
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| xGAME007 wrote: | This bit*ching about upgrades is pure stupidity.
Lets say if u buy now an i7, 5970, 6-8+ gb of ram etc, u DON'T NEED to upgrade it for 3-4 or more years, YES u will pay for it a shitload of money but u wont need to upgrade it for many years.
The best MP games are not the new ones, but the old ones;CS, CoD, DotA, etc, (from new ones ArmA 2, BC2 a maybe one or two more) so u will have a perfect lock of 333 FPSs in let say CoD4.
U dont need more then 50-60 FPS in SP game, and with that pc u will definitely have more...And now lets say in a year will come out a new "best" graphics card, and everyone will whine like they need it, like they need that 5-10 fps boost in games -.-
I have 2 yrs old pc and i can play 90% of games on high/highest settings on 1680x1050
And yes, consoles are destroying games, just look at them, they play by them self, wtf?!
How many true hardcore games came out lately?...1-3-5, 6 maybe...
Remember OFP2?, sure u do, and what did u except form that game? a game in which u really have to think, have some skill to play it, realism, good AI, an intense missions, and we all excepted it will be a true sequel to first one; and what did we get? yes, thats right, a f*cking console arcade FPS |
I have this PC now for about 1.5 years, it was something like R$ 989,00 (Brazilian currency).
9800GT
i5 750 2.6
4gb ram DDR 667
What i did over the years was buy a new 500GB HD (R$ 189,00)
XBOX 360 ARCADE: R$ 1.299,00
PS3: R$ 1.299,00
*Prices are from a real Brazilian store you can get cheaper prices but you will not get a Warranty.
http://www.submarino.com.br/menu/206519/consoles+ps3/?coup_num=17-100_P-00001-0877534425&WT.srch=1&franq=254141&gclid=CJiplN6OnaICFYEf7godDglQyw
Anyway, sorry for my english.
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Jun 2010 15:22 Post subject: |
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If devs/publisers gave two shits about a port, we'd see a lot more good console games properly ported to PC. The least they could do is add higher res textures and proper KB+mouse support. Most devs/publishers don't even bother with basics like that. We always get the ass end of console games due to crappy porting.
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Ashok0
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Jun 2010 17:13 Post subject: |
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I love how all these "PC is dying" apologists are always like "the PC would be dead if it wasn't for game A, B, and C along with companies X and Y".... like they aren't real games or something, lol.
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Jun 2010 17:30 Post subject: |
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There are some great games that can be played only in a PC:
Good Strategy ones: never seen a good one on a Console.
And it appears things will remain so at least for a moment: Starcraft 2 only on PC.
Civ 5, only on PC.
I have no doubts that both games make the PC reliable even if you don't play any other games.
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Jun 2010 21:33 Post subject: |
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Fall Out And Dragon Age Nudity And Real SEX Mods
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crossmr
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Jun 2010 08:01 Post subject: |
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| fable2 wrote: | Fall Out And Dragon Age Nudity And Real SEX Mods
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And for those of us over the age of 12 there are plenty of other reasons.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2010 19:25 Post subject: |
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Money's making the lazy Micro$oft moving...
| Quote: | Microsoft has steeled itself to questions from sneaky journalist types over a perceived reduction in the attention it gives PC gaming - and promised 'more news later this summer' for fans of core titles.
Fable III was given a slot at Microsoft's E3 conference - only for the firm to suggest it was 'only available on Xbox 360'.
This isn't strictly true, of course - as the game is out on PC later this year, too.
Kotaku has now unearthed an internal PR email at MS, which prepares media staff for the question:
'Does "Fable III" on Windows signal a larger reinvestment by Microsoft in PC gaming? How is this different from the previous times you've announced a reinvestment in PC gaming and not quite come through with a robust offering?'
The pre-written response?
'In terms of revenue, Windows is far and away the largest gaming platform in the world, so it's an incredibly important part of Microsoft's business.
'From core games like "Fable III" to casual, social and Facebook titles, more gaming happens on Windows than anywhere else. Windows 7 is a world-class gaming platform, and you can bet Microsoft has a vested interest in using it as a platform for amazing first party content.
'"Fable III" on Windows as well as Xbox 360 this holiday is a great first step, and we'll have more news for you later this summer.'
'More gaming happens on Windows than anywhere else'? Not with Alan Wake it doesn't... |
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=252853
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proekaan
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2010 19:43 Post subject: |
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Fable 3 is a testing ground and it will fail hard I bet. :/
I did like fable 1 & 2 to some extent,but they were kinda dumb games...
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2010 20:15 Post subject: |
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| ixigia wrote: | Money's making the lazy Micro$oft moving...
| Quote: | Microsoft has steeled itself to questions from sneaky journalist types over a perceived reduction in the attention it gives PC gaming - and promised 'more news later this summer' for fans of core titles.
Fable III was given a slot at Microsoft's E3 conference - only for the firm to suggest it was 'only available on Xbox 360'.
This isn't strictly true, of course - as the game is out on PC later this year, too.
Kotaku has now unearthed an internal PR email at MS, which prepares media staff for the question:
'Does "Fable III" on Windows signal a larger reinvestment by Microsoft in PC gaming? How is this different from the previous times you've announced a reinvestment in PC gaming and not quite come through with a robust offering?'
The pre-written response?
'In terms of revenue, Windows is far and away the largest gaming platform in the world, so it's an incredibly important part of Microsoft's business.
'From core games like "Fable III" to casual, social and Facebook titles, more gaming happens on Windows than anywhere else. Windows 7 is a world-class gaming platform, and you can bet Microsoft has a vested interest in using it as a platform for amazing first party content.
'"Fable III" on Windows as well as Xbox 360 this holiday is a great first step, and we'll have more news for you later this summer.'
'More gaming happens on Windows than anywhere else'? Not with Alan Wake it doesn't... |
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=252853 |
Before people start celebrating, I suggest we just sit and wait because in the end we might get a new Games for Windows type deal. 
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2010 20:41 Post subject: |
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So are they finally gonna stop pretending they lose money by porting games? Guess they realize they're not gonna sell any more consoles by having 1 or 2 more exclusives.
Hopefully it's just more games and not some stupid GFWL crap.
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2010 00:06 Post subject: |
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| djaoni wrote: | So are they finally gonna stop pretending they lose money by porting games? Guess they realize they're not gonna sell any more consoles by having 1 or 2 more exclusives.
Hopefully it's just more games and not some stupid GFWL crap. |
Call me what you will, but i've bought both consoles so i can play their exclusives.
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2010 01:21 Post subject: |
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whats wrong with gfwl with single player, co-op game at best? pc market is still 30-33% of all gaming market.. and considering there are far more than 2 more consoles.. its by far biggest... as posted above..
( sample of consoles , ps3, ps2 , psp ,xbox360, wii , all those nintendo portables, and another 2000 i dont know.. ( yes ps2 games are still in production )
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2010 01:48 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | ets say if u buy now an i7, 5970, 6-8+ gb of ram etc, u DON'T NEED to upgrade it for 3-4 or more years, YES u will pay for it a shitload of money but u wont need to upgrade it for many years. |
smart person would build a not quite top spec pc every 2 years
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2010 02:33 Post subject: |
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| snoop1050 wrote: | | Quote: | | ets say if u buy now an i7, 5970, 6-8+ gb of ram etc, u DON'T NEED to upgrade it for 3-4 or more years, YES u will pay for it a shitload of money but u wont need to upgrade it for many years. |
smart person would build a not quite top spec pc every 2 years |
I usually only make upgrades. The store I buy at always swaps parts, so I sell them the old part, and only pay the difference for the new part. Works swell. I always buy top of the line motherboards, and then upgrade my CPU, RAM and GPU yearly. I upgrade for around 80 euros a year. Sometimes 100. But my PC keeps me happy. Ofcourse, I work on this PC as well, so it's money well spent, and not only on gaming. But I do this for years, and have top notch PCs all the time.
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2010 03:13 Post subject: |
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| Smikis. wrote: | | whats wrong with gfwl with single player, co-op game at best? pc market is still 30-33% of all gaming market.. |
Sorry, no. The PC is the biggest gaming platform, by far and wide once you consider casual gaming like flash games and the like. There are hundreds of millions of PC's out there.
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2010 05:14 Post subject: |
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Yes but pc gamers simply aren't as stupid as console tards willing to pay stupid money for a game.Not including people who use their brain and buy console games offline for cheaper or second hand just the mainstream tards that pay full rrp in high street shops.
They will continue to discriminate against pc and main focus is still on consoles for obvious profit reasons.
Gaming has changed now the love has gone it's all about making money first and foremost now with marketing and hype.Rather than hard work and letting the game speak for itself, in fact I would say the PC is the only format out there where games are still made by lovers of games.
Same tards go and watch crappy action films they are called sheeple.
The vast majority of pc's out there probably a lot now are laptops are running free flash based games facebook twitter and just general web browsing etc there's just no mainstream mass sale market on pc anymore.
The glory days were 1996-2002 and they wont be coming back ever again thanks to microshaft and phony.
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LMLM
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2010 05:18 Post subject: |
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IMO PC gaming is on a resurgence because MS and Sony lost a lot of potential revenue on the X360 and PS3 with their expensive (debut) units. They tried to compete directly with the PC and failed. The cheaper and lesser powered Wii cleaned house on profits and showed the console industry how it's done (cheap+gimmicks). Sure the PS3 and X360 are finally making some money but that took way too long to happen.
So what I'm saying is that what makes the PC a great platform is what separates it from consoles: flexibility; truly vast game collection; powerful hardware, Internet ubiquity and more..
MS and Sony aren't even seriously talking about the next generation as far as I know. Just hints, but nothing like a tech demo. Already the PC has outpaced the X360 and PS3 with hardware and I think the gap will continue to grow. The next console generation won't make the same mistake and launch with $500+ units. More like $300 is my guesstimate.
PC gaming is on a comeback, but was never really out either.
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Racecar101
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2010 05:21 Post subject: |
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There will be no comeback all the money is in the consoles.
You make an amazing pc game it sells 1 million copies, you make an average overhyped mass marketed console / pc game it sells 6 mil on consoles and still gets 1m + on pc.
But even this trend is dying just look at red dead no version for us just look at fifa still no next gen.
They don't want to release their games on pc because people will pirate rather than buy the overpriced console version.
On top of all this they are going anti second hand console game minded now ! got to love the cheek of these people but as long as tards keep paying rrp for games they are winning.
i have never heard or seen microsoft talking about how the 360 is heavily pirated funny that.
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2010 05:23 Post subject: |
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| LMLM wrote: | | PC gaming is on a comeback, but was never really out either. |
What comeback? All we get are silly console ports. |
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Racecar101
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2010 05:31 Post subject: |
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Think of all the pc related hardware/software manus it's getting less and less important to own a gaming rig these days and I can for see a lot of companies being no more, just look at Abit.
Who's next ? MSI ASUS GYGABYE BFG EVGA ? probably bfg imo but they will all fall one by one.
In the end it will be Nvidia Ati Intel Microsoft.
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2010 06:05 Post subject: |
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Well nVidia is shelling cash for developers to tack on some silly PhysX features so gullible people go out and buy their shit for the PhysX.  Maybe this will save PC gaming, hardware companies going out and shelling cash to improve games.
"PC interface brought to you by: MSI - insist on the best"
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2010 06:37 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | LMLM wrote: | | PC gaming is on a comeback, but was never really out either. |
What comeback? All we get are silly console ports. |
Not for long. It takes 2-5 years to make a game nowadays so there's a lag. That's what we are experiencing now. In 2005-2008 companies were indeed going console but I don't see that lasting, especially for the high-end PC games.
I'm saying that the X360+PS3 were an anomaly. The X360 specifically was subsidized by PC (MS). And Sony subsidized the PS3 with PS2 profits in hopes of eventual profit. Now the game (ha) has changed and I seriously doubt Sony and MS are willing to put up with losses like that again. Oh they'll tout the next gen machines as being top-of-the-line, but look at how much they'll cost.
Things are returning to normal where PC is the high-end platform. Sure, there will be console games that well outsell PC version, but the wide performance gap between consoles and PC's has returned. I remember when the Sega Saturn came out and a console gamer I knew said that it would kill the PC (for gaming). I remember people demanding the PC would die with this generation too. They just don't understand the PC platform. Ignorance is understandable, but still fails.
Speaking as an adult, I don't need or want games that 10 year olds want. I'm fine with consoles for young people. I don't see that changing either. If any platform is here to stay, it's the PC. Consoles will be around too, but each generation is a fresh start and that is very risky (for whoever sells it) financially.
(I've been gaming since 1977)
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2010 06:43 Post subject: |
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| Racecar101 wrote: | There will be no comeback all the money is in the consoles.
You make an amazing pc game it sells 1 million copies, you make an average overhyped mass marketed console / pc game it sells 6 mil on consoles and still gets 1m + on pc. |
You are only looking at one part of the gaming industry. New AAA titles. Gaming is so much more than that. If new console games are what you want to play, then yes, consoles are the way to go. PC games are much more than that.
If you compare PC gaming directly with consoles, then yes, it looks smaller. But that's not true at all. As I already said, more people in the world game on PC's by far and wide. There's no comparison. The PC platform is safe and not threatened. Sure, if you want to play games that are just like console games, the PC has never been the way to go.
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2010 06:46 Post subject: |
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But even if PC is the leading platform again, so? Look at Crysis, supposedly PC gamer's wet dream. Really? Because while it looks spectacular and makes PCs sweat, gameplay is as silly as console games. So next Splinter Cell targets first and foremost PCs, and supports DX12. So? It doesn't mean it will go back to the old days of Splinter Cell, where game was about stealth.
PC gaming is more than just the prettiest graphics and highest resolution.
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