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 Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2005 16:46 Post subject: What's with all the Clones? |
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Last couple of releases, Constantine, Sims University, now GTR FIA GT Racing Game, all being released as Clones with no "Cracks" in sight. Never was a big emulation guy, prefered to install, crack, and be done with it. Any explainations from any of the release groups?
P.S.: Don't get me wrong, I appreciate 100% what the groups do! Just curious...
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2005 16:48 Post subject: |
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StarForce
The worst cd protection ever made. Incompatible with loads of cd-drives, sata-drives, native chipsets, and so on... Besides that, it takes quite a while to crack.
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2005 16:51 Post subject: |
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Common sense perhaps ?
If there clones, that means the crackers can't crack them obviously.
Thats why you'll often see a clone release and then shortly after a cracked version from RELOADED or HOODLUM, they race to crack the clone, if they can.
Copy protections are getting better and better unfortunately.
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2005 17:15 Post subject: |
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It is not only the new protections like StarForce and SafeDisk4 it's also Operation Fastlink (wrong name?) still scaring people. I mean why would you want to crack a game if you can go 2 years to prison for it?
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2005 17:32 Post subject: |
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You should feel lucky these companies arent using a security scheme like the one that RSA provides. Nintendo uses it to encrypt their data on their DS game cards, and currently.. well.. it will take a very long time to even find some base to use to fully decrypt it. And just for your information, the ENTIRE ROM excluding the header is encrypted.
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2005 17:40 Post subject: |
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SECUROM 7 it has implented some Starforce 3 functions....
thats why they jumped from 5 to 7 version number..due to big improvement..
will be cool to see wich group will crack this SECUROM 7 crap first...
until then we have got to use the clones .
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2005 18:33 Post subject: |
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Theres one group who can crack Starforce but unfortunatly they refuse to crack all of them...that sucks
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2005 18:59 Post subject: |
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Kommando i have only just started posting here but i have to say in the last two threads i have read you have talked bollocks
First about your english dvd of gtr
Second about only one group being able to crack starforce but "refusing" to
Are you a mentalist?
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2005 19:11 Post subject: |
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To be honest, I like clones.
Eliminates the need for a new crack when patching, and allows for the installation/use of mods whereas a cracked version would cause problems.
Cracks are easy to use sure, but clones just give you that warm fuzzy feeling.
I'm not picky though, I'll take either without bitchin.
I can never be free, because the shackles I wear can't be touched or be seen.
i9-9900k, MSI MPG-Z390 Gaming Pro Carbon, 32GB DDR4 @ 3000, eVGA GTX 1080 DT, Samsung 970 EVO Plus nVME 1TB
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2005 19:22 Post subject: |
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| Immunity wrote: | To be honest, I like clones.
Eliminates the need for a new crack when patching, and allows for the installation/use of mods whereas a cracked version would cause problems.
Cracks are easy to use sure, but clones just give you that warm fuzzy feeling.
I'm not picky though, I'll take either without bitchin. |
this time kommando is right.
ultima has proved to be able to fully crack any starforce title: they cracked xpand rally, which was sf3.30 on cd, and then colin05, which was sf 3.40 only on DVD.
but i guess it took them nearly a month to crack one title, so they don't want to waste time in this way.
the fact is that cracking the protection is not impossible, but now it can be done only manually and it takes ages. someone should really work on a tool to remove the protection with a click... that would be nice.
maybe with the new daemon tools v4 coming in a month or less, things will be easier, maybe we'll be able even to mount a sf3 clone and play without problems...
who knows...
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2005 21:37 Post subject: |
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Yeah Codename: Panzers Phase One was released very fast by Reloaded. Maybe the fastes SF3 release untill now. But that had something to do with that the German version was already cracked right?.
Now that I think of the German version, there are way more German sf3 games cracked then English sf3 games; German disc have a lower sf3 version or German groups are better?
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2005 21:49 Post subject: |
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| HeroMan wrote: | | there are way more German sf3 games cracked then English sf3 games; German disc have a lower sf3 version or German groups are better? |
Thats not true ,check out the tagged nogrp/Immersion releases..they still are the leader with cracking sf3 .
Last edited by highstuff on Mon, 14th Mar 2005 21:58; edited 1 time in total
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2005 21:51 Post subject: |
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| HeroMan wrote: | Yeah Codename: Panzers Phase One was released very fast by Reloaded. Maybe the fastes SF3 release untill now. But that had something to do with that the German version was already cracked right?.
Now that I think of the German version, there are way more German sf3 games cracked then English sf3 games; German disc have a lower sf3 version or German groups are better? |
Who knows but fact is that they were the 1st to crack it and they made quite a lot of cracks of it, if you look at dox you will find more SF3 cracks by rld and theres also some other SF3 isos by them!
Rld has, let me state again the best crackers, no other group cracks Tages and SF3 !
As for SF3, Europe in general but specially Germany, Eastern Europe and Russia get their games (that might not even be SF3 protected in US) Starforced !
Last edited by @Zion on Mon, 14th Mar 2005 22:14; edited 1 time in total
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2005 21:59 Post subject: |
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sorry but no Immersion have released the most. check out the nfos . also the biggest crack ever ,Dead to rights....crack was 1 cd .
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2005 22:29 Post subject: |
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| Kommando wrote: | "We are not a scene team so do not count on us on each Starforce titles".
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this is at the end of ultima xpand rally & colin05 release, both sf3 and fully cracked...
amybe we can count on ultima on one title every 2-3 month
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2005 23:59 Post subject: |
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As long as I can download and play the game I don't give a damn if it is cracked, cloned, bribed or asked to work.
11th "Thou shalt not flash"
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Mar 2005 00:17 Post subject: |
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| Mr_Baggins wrote: | | As long as I can download and play the game I don't give a damn if it is cracked, cloned, bribed or asked to work. |
theres no way to play a starforce game on dvd. obscure is only on dvd and there's no way at all to play it
furthermore from starforce 3.70 on the minimage trick doesn't work anymore
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Mar 2005 00:26 Post subject: |
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mini image still works with newest starforce nightmare tool.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Mar 2005 00:35 Post subject: |
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| highstuff wrote: | | mini image still works with newest starforce nightmare tool. |
minimage for starforce <3.70
gtr works, but is 3.40. there's no 3.70 working minimage
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Mar 2005 00:55 Post subject: |
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if you update the gtr game then its also 3.70 and it should still works or at least this i read over at cdfreaks.. mini images now must have "fake content" to phool the new content check by starforce 3.70 .
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Mar 2005 00:57 Post subject: |
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but rld cracked more of the highest versions of SF3
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