[PSP] Yay PSP
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Spazmotic
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jun 2010 21:47    Post subject: [PSP] Yay PSP
Found a 1x series PSP at gamestop so decided to finally pick one up, going to brick that shit tonight Twisted Evil

I predicted like a year ago that I would wind up buying the damn thing just to play Final Fantasy 7.. so behold, my $99 FF7 machine.
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jun 2010 22:22    Post subject:
Oh I remember 3 years ago when I got my V1 PSP. Bought it off of craigslist NEW. Even three yrs ago v1 was hard to find. Still works great. EZ to upgrade..


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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jun 2010 23:01    Post subject:
The only part negative about it is the controller.

The pad is crap and the analog stick is even worse. No point in playing fighting games, or any game that needs special finger skills.

Playing c:sotn is another perfect example. Try pulling a special move. Consider playing it without magic (dark metamorphosis) and animal abilities (wolf charge), because that´s where you will end up.

FF7 should be fine though. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jun 2010 23:07    Post subject:
I'm not too much into fighting games so don't think i'll have to worry about having to spin the stick around to hit combos, got the GTA games, FF7, the new Lego Harry Potter, and some adventure games so think it should work pretty well for a portable so long as I don't break it while modding.

It feels really nice in my hands though, I like my DS but it gives me a claw after an hour or so of playing.
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jun 2010 23:13    Post subject:
$99? Fuck. Wasn't there an infinitely cheaper PSP online somewhere, like an original fatty or something you could have bought?


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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jun 2010 23:19    Post subject:
I'm in the middle of a FF7 playthrough, it looks and plays perfect, and it has aged well.

You can play almost all PS1 games. You can also get into emulation and play pretty much any 8bit and 16bit console game (snes,mega drive+sega CD,gba,neogeo,mame, etc). Or DOS games, through Dosbox. Or ScummVM adventures. Or JavaME apps through PSPKVM.

You can also play h264 videos with pmplayer advance, read comics on the go with PSP Comic

Also, Tyrian, DOOM, Heretic, Wolfenstein3D, Quake, Cave Story ...

The PSP is woefully underrated. Although the above are only on hacked/exploited psps.

EDIT: You should have gotten the slim, it's a big difference.
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jun 2010 23:24    Post subject:
I´m playing ff9.

What happens when it´s time for disk swap?
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jun 2010 23:35    Post subject:
Other cool games you must check out:

Half-minute hero.
Patchwork heroes.
Jeanne darc

I agree with vga, it is indeed unerrated. I just took a quick look at metacritic. So many good games.

edit: persona 3 store rel 6 july btw. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jun 2010 23:53    Post subject:
Half-minute hero looked a little...terrible for my tastes, but I am looking forward to Persona 3 Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Jun 2010 00:45    Post subject:
Nailbiter wrote:
I´m playing ff9.

What happens when it´s time for disk swap?

Isn't there a "change disc" option at the emulator's menu ?
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Jun 2010 00:48    Post subject:
Nailbiter wrote:
I´m playing ff9.

What happens when it´s time for disk swap?


If you've got the 4 separate disk version, you'll be given a prompt to save and then switch disks. Just save your game and quit and reload from the next disk. Integrated muiltidisk games (AWESOME, btw! Parasite Eve is unplayable without this) allow you to use the POPS built-in "switch disk" function.


As for the PSP itself? Aside from some pretty dire games and a HORRENDOUS dpad, I'm with VGA on this; best all-round handheld on the market .. bar none. At least until the Pandora comes Wink
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Jun 2010 00:56    Post subject:
Shh..i'm tryin to raise chocobos over here.

Edit: I kind of like the way the buttons are psuedo depressed into the case..it feels nice on the d-pad and expecially the thumbstick feels really ergonomic, but I'd imagine that will change while playing a game that needs speed on them. One of the major gripes i've heard for the full 3d games is since there is not a second analog stick, the views can get awkward or you'll have to press the L/R buttons + analog to pan around
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Jun 2010 09:19    Post subject:
Got it modded and working nicely, wanna put a psone emulator on there now that you guys mentioned it but gonna need a much larger memory card...that 4gig filled up fast Surprised
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Jun 2010 10:03    Post subject:
Spazmotic wrote:
Got it modded and working nicely, wanna put a psone emulator on there now that you guys mentioned it but gonna need a much larger memory card...that 4gig filled up fast Surprised


Psssst... the PSP natively supports PS1 games Wink All you need is the game itself, converted to EBP.
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Jun 2010 10:27    Post subject:
Ooeoehehehehehe even better; FF7, Parasite Eve, FF8, FF9, Lunar:SSS, XenoGears, Breath of Fire.... Thank god I can leave the house with the PSP...
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Jun 2010 10:46    Post subject:
Ok; FF series, Lunar Silver Star Story, XenoGears ... they'll be fine as they have save points at each disk change, but Parasite Eve? That DOESN'T. So in order to play that properly, make sure you find an EBOOT that has BOTH disks incorporated into the one archive, else you won't be able to progress to the next disk.

Make sure to get the latest POPSLoader Pack for your FW, as that gives you the choice of choosing which POPS version you wish to run, when playing PSXonPSP games. Then check this, slightly outdated, list for game compatibility.

http://www.gamerspress.com/index.php?title=PSX_on_PSP_Compatibility_List


@VGA

Have the developers updated PSPKVM to support Java3D (JSR184) yet?

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Nope Sad Hasn't been updated since October 2009... meh! Oh well, no Java3D games for me - and it looks like no more optimisation or speed enhancements. WolfRPG is painfully slow on PSPKVM compared to even my piece of shit Skype S1 phone.
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Jun 2010 23:41    Post subject:
Great answers sabin, thanks man. One question though you may know the answer to, I think I still have my parasite eve discs laying around, how difficult would it be to repack them into a single homebrew?
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Jun 2010 23:49    Post subject:
There's a few ways, here's two guides for the most common ways of making multi-disk eboots;

http://forum.romulation.net/index.php?topic=9995.0 (just select multiple ISOs when creating)
http://www.gamerspress.com/index.php?title=PSX_on_PSP_Multiple_Disk_Howto


The downside to that is you have to put in your own images and audio for the eboot "game" listing. Honestly, the easiest way would be for your to just find a premade eboot of Parasite Eve. If you're serious about ripping and making your own games, you'll need some icon packs;

http://endlessparadigm.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=3436
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jun 2010 04:52    Post subject:
Excellent info Sabin, thanks a ton. Couldn't find my old copy of Parasite Eve and can't seem to find a copy by...less conventional means so guess I'll have to hit the pawn shop or something. I did however find my copy of legend of Legaia...so gonna try that Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jun 2010 05:46    Post subject:
Hehe, I only converted one PSX game myself and it worked flawlessly the first time : Star Trek Invasion ! Great gfx !

I'm also lucky cause I never had to use popsloader to change the emu version used, the current always worked fine for the games I tried.

Too bad that the PSP2 will have a totally different cpu architecture (probably). Backwards compatibility with ps1 and psp will be more difficult. Right now the psx games on psp are running pretty much natively !

N64 uses the same arch, that's why there is an emulator for that on the psp (some games are fully playable/finishable)

This may be the one and only time that a handheld traverses so many platforms. Not enough people understand this, I guess casual pickup-and-play games on the DS that sell like crazy are more substantial Smug

P.S.: The Pandora will never even come close, I believe.
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jun 2010 07:17    Post subject:
Yeah the only problem is that 90% of the DS games are just garbage unfortunately Sad

Got legend of legaia ripped, was really quite easy...It's going to be a fun few months Smug


EDIT: Sabin, is there any reason why you cannot just use the vsh shell to switch to disk 2 internally? It just a POPs incompatibility with the game?
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jun 2010 13:03    Post subject:
Spazmotic wrote:

EDIT: Sabin, is there any reason why you cannot just use the vsh shell to switch to disk 2 internally? It just a POPs incompatibility with the game?


Because that only works for official multidisk PS1 games, bought from the PSN store, as they're already consolidated in a single eboot file. That "switch disk" option doesn't switch ISO, just data track sadly. If you find a preconverted game, like PE, that has had all the disks merged into the single eboot, THEN you can use the "change disks" option -- but not if you're just using multiple eboots.

And, seriously? you CAN'T find a copy of Parasite Eve anywhere? Are you kidding? I could type "Parasite Eve torrent" into Google and find a hundred copies Very Happy Even better; http://tinyurl.com/2bv27xn

VGAdeadcafe wrote:

I'm also lucky cause I never had to use popsloader to change the emu version used, the current always worked fine for the games I tried.


Aye, not ever game requires different POPS revisions. Most are quite happy to play on FW Default (ie; 5.50 or what have you) but there are always problematic ones like the FF series, which required all manner of tweaking to get a properly stable game. I presume that has changed now, given that Sony have released legitimate versions of FF7 and FF8 on PSN.

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P.S.: The Pandora will never even come close, I believe.


Now you're just being silly The Pandora has VASTLY more power than the PSP and, better for homebrew, it runs natively on Linux. Emulators for popular machines will simply have to be ported over.
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jun 2010 18:16    Post subject:
I know that, but will it play PSP games ? lol

Anyway, it's not really a handheld *in my eyes*, it's like a miniature netbook with nubs. It also costs twice as the 3000.

And it will all come down to the community for support, it's not about the hardware.
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jun 2010 18:26    Post subject:
I give up.
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jun 2010 18:37    Post subject:
Hmm, I just checked wiki and it seems that (when closed) its dimensions are comparable to the psp, hmmm, maybe I'm wrong then. I thought it looked bigger on the vids I saw. Anyway, we'll see in 6 months how it is with support.
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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Jul 2010 09:40    Post subject:
sabin, so I herd you liek parasite eve :
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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Jul 2010 10:18    Post subject:
Sigh..that looks like parasite eve 2 aka gears of eve...half eve, is too bad, but i'm sure there will be a nice shower scene to make me buy it Razz

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As far as the pandora..Its features look pretty cool but I really hope they do some remodeling of the externals, I'm not too fond of the way the keypad is laid out. I think it's something about the analog sticks being so close to the inside that bugs me
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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Jul 2010 10:26    Post subject:
It's totally different than the oldschool design. The psp is like the gameboy actually. Very Happy

And there's no fucking way I'd pay 330$ for a handheld.

P.S.: That design is final, a first batch was already sent out. Hey, didn't Spykez get one ?
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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Jul 2010 11:22    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
sabin, so I herd you liek parasite eve :


You just HAD to remind me, didn't you? You're a cold, cold man VGA Sad Crying or Very sad

RIP Parasite Eve.
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Jul 2010 23:03    Post subject:
Craps..not enough buttons on this psp for me to use the chocobo endurance cheat!!!! CRAPPPheha!!!
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