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Having said that, Priestly loves to troll.
I doubt he'd throw out info like that so soon with no other background info if it were actually true.
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jul 2010 19:37 Post subject: |
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lol nevermind, just read where he said he was dead serious.
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jul 2010 20:26 Post subject: |
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Waaaiiit.... are they serious with taking out multiple races and only one playable guy? What the fuck are they doing? The forums will eat them alive.
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jul 2010 20:34 Post subject: |
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| jewbagel wrote: | | Waaaiiit.... are they serious with taking out multiple races and only one playable guy? What the fuck are they doing? The forums will eat them alive. |
Yes they are serious. And there are rumors that this time, DA2 is developed mainly for the 360 and not PC.
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jul 2010 20:46 Post subject: |
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| m3th0d2008 wrote: | Well, I've read the Info and it smells like dumbed down hack&slash shit. I guess they do the same to DA2 they did with ME2. Would be sad  |
But ME2 is so much better than ME1, as it polished off most of routine and boring staff. Crucify me, but I liked ME2 much more than DA1 
Combat in DA1 was crap, too much enemies made it quite tedious to play tactically, but lowering difficulty made it play like a loot-less Diablo - which lead to boredom.
As I doubt BioWare would lower enemies amount and combat frequency, I hope they would go ME2 route. ME2 made ME combat feel more like a shooter, so it would be great if DA2 combat would became an enjoyable slasher. Much better than neither fish nor fowl that DA1 combat was 
EDIT: fixed DE --> DA. thx, proekaan
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jul 2010 20:49 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jul 2010 20:50 Post subject: |
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Yeah lets make another boring slasher and another boring shooter. Bioware goes generic games. As if we don't have enough of them already..
Go play Gears of Bore and God of Whore if you want those games so much?
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jul 2010 20:54 Post subject: |
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I can't think of anything I care less about than what race my character is.
"FUCK I CAN'T PLAY AS A HOMELESS MIDGET OR SPOCK."
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jul 2010 21:15 Post subject: |
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I'm sure that BioWare will do a great job with DA 2 and that it will probably be even better then DA: Origins. I mean, when ME 2 was announced everyone was flaming, yelling and bitching and then it turned out that the game is a masterpiece.
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jul 2010 21:17 Post subject: |
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I don't mind the ME2 style at all, it works very well with that series. I just don't know why they're suddenly changing everything that DA was with DA2. THis was supposed to be an new old-school RPG type. It's a complete overhaul from the sounds of it, much different from what changed between ME1 and ME2. I'm not going to rage-quit the series like those fanboy losers on their forum, but it just seems a very puzzling decision right now.
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jul 2010 21:21 Post subject: |
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@proekaan:
For me it didn't feel like the good old days, than comparing to Baldur's Gate. For me it was like BioWare tried to please old school camp, but combat turned out not epic enough for the mainstream audience, so they multiplied the amount of enemies during combat encounters.
@djaoni:
Nope, I don't like Gears of War and haven't played God of War - no consoles here. And I don't want another slasher / shooter but at the same time I don't want the same broken for my taste DA1 combat. So of these two evils, I would prefer a slasher. Combat would still be imperfect but more enjoyable as battles could end much faster 
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jul 2010 21:33 Post subject: |
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So there's a bit more info available here and it seems like we will take on the role of Hawke, a penniless refugee who rises to power to become the single most important character in the world of Dragon Age.
Also this "Infusing the universe with more action, a new, more responsive combat system"
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
EA has brought down Bioware.
| m3th0d2008 wrote: | | And there are rumors that this time, DA2 is developed mainly for the 360 and not PC. |
If a developer comes forth and says this, then I am certain that DA2 will be a failure. But for now I would just say it's because of what has been revealed to us, with the new action-filled combat system etc, that this rumor is circulating.
But I will keep my hopes high, and pray that Bioware manages to be succesfull.
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jul 2010 21:55 Post subject: |
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| H4wkeye wrote: | | I'm sure that BioWare will do a great job with DA 2 and that it will probably be even better then DA: Origins. I mean, when ME 2 was announced everyone was flaming, yelling and bitching and then it turned out that the game is a masterpiece. |
I agree partially. Or even mostly.
But the thing with the Dragon Age IP is that BioWare declared it as a darn SPIRITUAL SUCCESSOR of Baldur's Gate. So BG fans (myself included) were and still ARE expecting BioWare to actually DELIVER.
For me, they didn't deliver THAT much with DA(1), despite the game being a very good one. Didn't felt it like the named "successor", but still was enjoyable and even then some. And now, they seem to be straying even more from what some RPG BioWare fans are expecting. And that's a deep, full of choices, characters and complexity RPG game.
Despite of what some people read in that news, all I can read is: simplified stuff, cinematic and more linear experience, to fit a trend forced in by consoles. Ofc that is NOT necessarily a bad thing (see Mass Effect 2) but for those Baldur's Gate fans is all going either downfall or on a separate path. Probably and hopefully it's the latter.
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jul 2010 21:57 Post subject: |
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Oh man, it's about time Starcraft2 gets released so they finally can see that good games are able to selling massivley on the PC too. I just don't get it why they go in this direction. DA sold very well on all 3 systems and I think even better on the PC than on the others. Maybe it still wasn't enough for the greedy fucks in the background.
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jul 2010 22:00 Post subject: |
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Yeah, I think there are too many rumors and assumptions going around, since people expect the worst as soon as they see a word "action" somewhere in the descriptions for games like this. I wouldn't start crying a river just yet...
As for combat. They might very well move away from the classical RPG combat system they had in DAO, but we can't really say that it's not for the better until we see it.
Still, I liked the idea of having a typical hardcore RPG in DA and a more streamlined action RPG in ME. But as long as character interactions and story remain at least as deep as they were in DAO, I can live through a lot of changes. The game was much bigger than ME and I'd like it to remain that way.
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jul 2010 22:07 Post subject: |
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| H4wkeye wrote: | | I mean, when ME 2 was announced everyone was flaming, yelling and bitching and then it turned out that the game is a masterpiece. |
What. ME2 was a massive disappointment, it was incredibly dumbed down.
Still a great game though.
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jul 2010 22:17 Post subject: |
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That was quite the contradiction of yourself.
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jul 2010 22:28 Post subject: |
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Just because something doesn't meet your expectations doesn't mean you can't enjoy it.
| sabin1981 wrote: | | Fuck you troll. Fuck you and your entire aids-infested family. Get cancer and die. Slowly. |
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jul 2010 22:40 Post subject: |
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It would be nice if we had more quality RPGs like were on the sega gen and SNes.Titles like might & magic and the ultima series.Seems like consoles cater more to the kid oriented anime type RPG's these days and that's sad.God would it be nice to see a a true Shadowrun RPG sequel to both those consoles to.
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jul 2010 22:59 Post subject: |
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| banish wrote: | for some reason i have a lot of faith in Bioware and i strongly believe that DA 2 will be a lot better than DAO and still reading your comments i can't understand from what point a view are you seeing ME2 as being dumbed down...it was a lot better than ME1 at least for me...don't know what you guys were expecting and if ME2 was built for the Xbox and it turned out to be the game that it is i hope DA2 is being built for Xbox as well
| djaoni wrote: | ME2 is a great game but I expected it to at least resemble a RPG in some way and not just be a shooter with health bars and dialog.
| Quote: | | Think like a general and fight like a Spartan with dynamic new combat mechanics that put you right in the heart of battle whether you are a mage, rogue, or warrior. |
Yeah now we'll be spartans whether we're a mage, rogue or warrior  |
If someone knows how to make rpg's that someone is Bioware so i really don't think that they would ignore classes like that |
I disagree. BioWare is the blizzard of RPGs, but Black Isles is the Relic of RPGs. This BioWare of new, well, let's just say it dumbs things down. IMHO, they didn't have a deep RPG mechanic since nwn1, and a decent story since Kotor, and even that was cheese.
But, ofc, that's just my taste. But I can say this: the more modern literature I read, the less I liked BioWare, the more I liked Black Isles games.
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