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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 16:49    Post subject:
pwerelds wrote:
Breezer_ wrote:
So i now tried with AA on @ 1080p with physX off and got 62.4fps average. In those posted screens the AA looks like shit, in motion its much better imo.

No it doesn't Very Happy

It's the same as GTA4's way of pretending they have AA, they just blur the whole damn thing

Slizza wrote:
Will try in SLI mode vs dedicated mode as a tester.

Please do, because I'm pretty sure that for someone with 2 460's in SLI turning SLI off and using the 2nd one for PhysX will yield higher framerates :E


if they do upscaling they can lick my balls..
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Werelds
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 16:50    Post subject:
I posted a bunch of screenshots Moose? :<
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Slizza




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 16:50    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
Slizza wrote:
Just had first play. pretty short demo.
Physx effects are real cool.
Not checked framerates.
Will try in SLI mode vs dedicated mode as a tester.


fucking lol to the fanboi


Oh sorry...nobody is allowed to like the effects. lol wut


Benchmarking sucked though 30fps in sli mode.
then 30fps in dedicated mode.
1080p max setting high physx

Thought vxync but it's off...


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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 16:51    Post subject:
Hah, reinstalled the demo, and hello voices in cutscenes. I am loving this game, enjoying every aspect of it. Buying the game for sure!!!
Oh, has anyone figured out if it's possible to increase drawing distance, quite alot of popups, especially when driving at high speeds.


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Werelds
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 16:57    Post subject:
Slizza wrote:
Oh sorry...nobody is allowed to like the effects. lol wut

No, they're just not interesting for the most part. Smoke I found interesting, but the debris just makes me lol because it's so goddamn unrealistic. A .45 bullet doesn't knock off a 10 by 30 piece of concrete, making it shatter into hundreds of little pieces.


Slizza wrote:
Benchmarking sucked though 30fps in sli mode.
then 30fps in dedicated mode.
1080p max setting high physx

Thought vxync but it's off...

VSync is turned off for the benchmark anyway, and as Leo and I found out, the benchmark is flawed. Compare actual in-game framerates. With PhysX on medium even I get a constant 25 to 35 FPS in-game, while the benchmark reports a much lower average.

Unoptimised crap makes baby jesus sad Sad
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BLaM!
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 16:57    Post subject:
This game works and looks fantastic,ofc no Physx but i don't care about that at all.Can't wait to play full game..and i could only wish GTA works smooth as this. Smile I love both games,every in a different way.
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Kristian




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 17:04    Post subject:
and just as expected, driving part was a huge dissapointment..
horrible physics, and they removed manual transmission! WTF?

What made Mafia 1 really great was to be able to just cruise around with wheels+pedals.
Driving physics in this game can be compared to the godfather games..


I hate you.
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Slizza




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 17:09    Post subject:
pwerelds wrote:
Slizza wrote:
Oh sorry...nobody is allowed to like the effects. lol wut

No, they're just not interesting for the most part. Smoke I found interesting, but the debris just makes me lol because it's so goddamn unrealistic. A .45 bullet doesn't knock off a 10 by 30 piece of concrete, making it shatter into hundreds of little pieces.


Nah, that's just how americans build there structures. you seen 9/11 right?


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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 17:10    Post subject:
The particles with PhysX do indeed look weird. You shoot the ground and it spits out hundreds of pieces each bigger than the bullet itself. It could add some feeling of mayhem to the firefights, but it kinda looks off. It sill looks good enough when you shoot at the concrete posts in the boiler room with no PhysX.

Not sure about the smoke, where could I see this wondrous effect? Smile
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madness




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 17:11    Post subject:
Runs like shit on my single core machine with 1 gig of ram. How can this be ? Crappy optimisation! lol wut

Laughing Sad Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 17:19    Post subject:
Slizza, could you run the benchmark with the same settings (including PhysX) using just 1 card as well? Disabling SLI and not using the 2nd card dedicated PhysX? I bet you get the same 30 FPS again.

Better yet would be to play through the entire demo mission with all 3 configs and using Fraps to benchmark, but I guess you're not up for that Razz
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fugazi86
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 17:21    Post subject:
Hi. I'm back from work now. So now i can download this demo and try performance with gtx 470.

But if somebody say that GTX 480 + 275 is average 30 fps on APEX HIGH , i better dont run on this. Maybe i try first Medium.
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Bout09




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 17:26    Post subject: Using the demo for pc throught steam and have some problems:
First i finished the demo.
But then after times in the chase when you finish the demo the game crashed to the windows and i had two options: Debug or Close Program.

And another problem is each time i exit the demo my screen or is it the monitor very dark like someone played with the brightness mode i cant almost see a thing i need to restart the pc since the settings havnt change.

Does anyone else have this two problems?


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Now to play the game good i turned of AA and AS is set to 1 and phyisx is also off and resolution is max 1920x1080.

On every other big games i dont have any problems to run them on max settings smooth. Like battlefield 2 or Battlefield bad company 2.

Could its mfaia 2 demo so the demo have bugs?


My pc specs are: MotherBoard Gigabyte EX58-UD3R

Memory ram of g.skill i had three sticks each 2gb but one got damaged so i took him out now i have only two sticks each 2gb on slots 1 and 3 on the motherboard.
For some reason i see it says 400mhz near the memories.

Here is the memories section:


Computer Memory Controller
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : None
Number of Memory Slots : 4
Maximum Installable Memory : 32GB
Bank0/1 - A0 : DIMM 2GB/2304 @ 400MHz
Bank2/3 - A1 : Empty
Bank4/5 - A2 : DIMM 2GB/2304 @ 400MHz
Bank6/7 - A3 : Empty

Why its 400mhz ? im sure i bought 1600 or 1800mhz speed noy 400.

And this is the info for each of the memories:

Memory Module
Manufacturer : G.Skill
URL : http://www.gskill.com
Model : F3-12800CL9-2GBNQ
Type : 2GB DIMM DDR3
Technology : 8x(1024Mx8)
Speed : PC3-12800U DDR3-1334
Standard Timings : 10-10-10-27 4-37-11-6
Version : 1.00
Timing @ 444MHz : 6-6-6-16 3-22-7-3
Timing @ 519MHz : 7-7-7-19 3-26-8-4
Timing @ 593MHz : 8-8-8-21 4-29-9-4
Timing @ 667MHz : 9-9-9-24 4-33-10-5
Timing @ 741MHz : 10-10-10-27 4-37-11-6
Enhanced Performance Profiles : Yes
Profile @ 800MHz: Optimal : 9-9-9-24 5-39-12-6 2T 1.5V

So whats the speed 400mhz or 800mhz ? something is wrong here.


My video card is ATI Radeon HD 5800 (1600 sm5.0,850mhz 1gb,ddr5,4X1.2ghz, pcie 2.00 x16)

My monitor is LG FLATRON W2486L

My windows is windows 7 home.

Thanks for the help.
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SANGEKi




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 17:30    Post subject:
fugazi86 wrote:
But if somebody say that GTX 480 + 275 is average 30 fps on APEX HIGH , i better dont run on this. Maybe i try first Medium.


I don't see this at all.
Single 480, no dedicated PhysX card, everything max (including PhysX), no fake AA, no VSync @2560x1600.

Getting avg. 44 fps on the benchmark and in actual gameplay it's mostly 50+.

Just make sure to use the 258.96 driver and 9.10.0512 PhysX that comes with the demo.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 17:36    Post subject:
SANGEKi wrote:
fugazi86 wrote:
But if somebody say that GTX 480 + 275 is average 30 fps on APEX HIGH , i better dont run on this. Maybe i try first Medium.


I don't see this at all.
Single 480, no dedicated PhysX card, everything max (including PhysX), no fake AA, no VSync @2560x1600.

Getting avg. 44 fps on the benchmark and in actual gameplay it's mostly 50+.

Just make sure to use the 258.96 driver and 9.10.0512 PhysX that comes with the demo.




BULLSHIT.
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totalbloody




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 17:38    Post subject:
Immunity wrote:
Has anyone managed to find all of the centerfolds? I've found 2 out of 5 so far,D


 Spoiler:
 


AMD Phenom II x4 3ghz, Nvidia 460 GTX 1gb DDR3,4gb DDR3, Win 10
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 17:41    Post subject:
Bout you have not even mentioned your FSB speed.. use ur bios for info not an app, ram @400 might not even be correct..

Timing @ 741MHz : 10-10-10-27 4-37-11-6 << 741 , is clocked over ur rated ram setting it can prob do it as u see timings are wider to allow for the clock, so thats what ud do if u wanted to push the ram.

still need to know what ur fsb and multiplier is at.


http://www.speedtest.net/result/4302967033.png


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human_steel




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 17:43    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
SANGEKi wrote:
fugazi86 wrote:
But if somebody say that GTX 480 + 275 is average 30 fps on APEX HIGH , i better dont run on this. Maybe i try first Medium.


I don't see this at all.
Single 480, no dedicated PhysX card, everything max (including PhysX), no fake AA, no VSync @2560x1600.

Getting avg. 44 fps on the benchmark and in actual gameplay it's mostly 50+.

Just make sure to use the 258.96 driver and 9.10.0512 PhysX that comes with the demo.




BULLSHIT.
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 17:44    Post subject:
totalbloody wrote:
Immunity wrote:
Has anyone managed to find all of the centerfolds? I've found 2 out of 5 so far,D


 Spoiler:
 

Sweet ^^

And the second one is my favourite Smug
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pikachupi




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 17:45    Post subject:
i played the demo (the mission) about 7 times, changed the settings and stuff and i think that with the physics on high it feels very cool:) but my card barely doing the job :/

and btw, you can't shoot from a car?
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 17:46    Post subject:
Not if you're driving, no.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 17:48    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
Not if you're driving, no.


Such a bummer that is Sad Especially seeing as how the police can shoot the crap out of you, but you can't fire back Sad
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Bout09




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 17:48    Post subject: AM i the only one that have such a pc specs and so low fps?
You can see here my specs above or:

MotherBoard Gigabyte EX58-UD3R

My video card is ATI Radeon HD 5800 (1600 sm5.0,850mhz 1gb,ddr5,4X1.2ghz, pcie 2.00 x16)

My monitor is LG FLATRON W2486L

Memoeries are 4GB each DDR3 G.SKILL pc3-12800 CL9-9-9-24

Windows 7 home.

And i run the game on:

res: 1920x1080
Vertiacl Sync On
AA OFF
AF 1X
Shadow High
Ambien Occlusion ON
Geometry High

Physix OFF

Anything to play with the settings and change so i can run it much smooth? Even playing with this settings when crowded or in action like shootings with many ppl the game moving slow very low fps.

What should i change turn on/off+/- in the settings?

Thanks.
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 17:49    Post subject:
@pikachupi

Yep that is probably the biggest disappointment, at least for me. Crying or Very sad
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 17:50    Post subject:
Maybe it's just because of the situation in the demo? You can't shoot because you're driving (unlike modern times, such as GTA, there was no power steering back in the 60s Very Happy) and your mate was looking after your other wounded friend in the back, so no help there then. Perhaps in the full game, when you've got a car full of gangsters, they'll be shooting back?
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Bout09




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 17:51    Post subject: WHY WHEN EXIT THE DEMO MY SCREEN IS DARK akmose cant see:
I checked all brightness settings in windows and on my monitor they are all ok all i can do is restart my pc. Everyone else got this thing too ?

Thanks.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 17:52    Post subject: Re: WHY WHEN EXIT THE DEMO MY SCREEN IS DARK akmose cant see
Bout09 wrote:
I checked all brightness settings in windows and on my monitor they are all ok all i can do is restart my pc. Everyone else got this thing too ?

Thanks.


Read back a few posts;

sabin1981 wrote:
wizarD. wrote:
How the fuck do I reset the color scheme that this game utterly destroyed on my monitors after I played this?


Hit ctrl+alt+del (if you're on V/7) and then press cancel, everything should return to normal.
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pikachupi




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 17:53    Post subject:
yea, kinda limit you preformance as a mafiozo:(
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SANGEKi




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 17:53    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
SANGEKi wrote:
fugazi86 wrote:
But if somebody say that GTX 480 + 275 is average 30 fps on APEX HIGH , i better dont run on this. Maybe i try first Medium.


I don't see this at all.
Single 480, no dedicated PhysX card, everything max (including PhysX), no fake AA, no VSync @2560x1600.

Getting avg. 44 fps on the benchmark and in actual gameplay it's mostly 50+.

Just make sure to use the 258.96 driver and 9.10.0512 PhysX that comes with the demo.




BULLSHIT.


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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2010 17:53    Post subject: Re: AM i the only one that have such a pc specs and so low f
Bout09 wrote:
You can see here my specs above or:

MotherBoard Gigabyte EX58-UD3R

My video card is ATI Radeon HD 5800 (1600 sm5.0,850mhz 1gb,ddr5,4X1.2ghz, pcie 2.00 x16)

My monitor is LG FLATRON W2486L

Memoeries are 4GB each DDR3 G.SKILL pc3-12800 CL9-9-9-24

Windows 7 home.

And i run the game on:

res: 1920x1080
Vertiacl Sync On
AA OFF
AF 1X
Shadow High
Ambien Occlusion ON
Geometry High

Physix OFF

Anything to play with the settings and change so i can run it much smooth? Even playing with this settings when crowded or in action like shootings with many ppl the game moving slow very low fps.

What should i change turn on/off+/- in the settings?

Thanks.


yeah thats all good but u know u mentioned is my ram speeds right? etc? but u left out the important part that is your front side bus (FSB) and multiplier setting..

and it says u only got 2 banks in of 2gb each so thats 4gb not 8 as u say you have.


http://www.speedtest.net/result/4302967033.png


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