Kudo:"hardly anyone plays FPS on PC anymore"
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LeoNatan
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 19:19    Post subject:
"Consolitis"

noun

A deadly plague that hunts PC games. Symptoms include:

• clumsy and frustrating user interfaces
• super-large fonts (used to be seen on televisions from afar)
• extremely poor visual quality, characterized by low texture resolutions, low polygon counts by current generation standards, etc.
• poor control not optimized for the keyboard/mouse control scheme
• horrible handling of saving games, or limited save model
• lack of options (resolutions, audio settings, graphic quality, etc.)
• the inability to remap keys to certain actions
• platform-style gameplay suited for gamepads
• simplified game mechanics
• unoptimized performance not taking advantage of the latest PC technologies
• no support for mods, and no editors for customization

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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 19:20    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Nailbiter wrote:
Many of those derps are justified, but that doesn´t change the fact that there was hc gamers before most of you were even born.

But that's just the point, it's not the machine that is to be blamed (largely; the controller is still a big limitation). It's the players that have become so bad. Of course it's not the consoles themselves. And we see the same shitty games on PC as well. You yourself mentioned Crysis.


My point was made already a page ago. About someone fooling themsleves that pc has some sort of hard core gaming exclusivity deal.

But yeah, the casual player of today in my head is a spoilt 13 year old brat. Or a core player as m$ would call it. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 19:22    Post subject:
@Nailbiter PC has the most hardcore players, that is perhaps more correct. You can see this clearly at the amount of sales dumb games get on consoles versus PC. Then they blame it on piracy. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 19:24    Post subject:
Well this thread pretty much degenerated, just in to say that I played the first halo on pc and the latest one on the 360 and imho the first one sucked back then on the pc and the last one sucks right now on the 360. And I can't fathom the middle ones being much different. Seriously, most overrated series EVAR.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 19:24    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
"Consolitis"

noun

A deadly plague that hunts PC games. Symptoms include:

• clumsy and frustrating user interfaces
• super-large fonts (used to be seen on televisions from afar)
• extremely poor visual quality, characterized by low texture resolutions, low polygon counts by current generation standards, etc.
• poor control not optimized for the keyboard/mouse control scheme
• horrible handling of saving games, or limited save model
• lack of options (resolutions, audio settings, graphic quality, etc.)
• the inability to remap keys to certain actions
• platform-style gameplay suited for gamepads
• simplified game mechanics
• unoptimized performance not taking advantage of the latest PC technologies
• no support for mods, and no editors for customization

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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 19:25    Post subject:
Nailbiter wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
IMO it sucks. Ridiculously overrated, simplified, rubbish. I still think you're in the wrong section


I thought you were a gamer not a pc nerd? Scratch Head


Oh I'm sorry... I didn't realise disliking Halo makes me not only a PC nerd, but also discounts my status as a gamer.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 19:26    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:

You should put that as your sig (in a spoiler), so people don't get the incorrect idea. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 19:32    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Nailbiter wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
IMO it sucks. Ridiculously overrated, simplified, rubbish. I still think you're in the wrong section


I thought you were a gamer not a pc nerd? Scratch Head


Oh I'm sorry... I didn't realise disliking Halo makes me not only a PC nerd, but also discounts my status as a gamer.


It was a reply to me being in the wrong section.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 19:49    Post subject:
I think you're in the wrong section because you're sitting there defending Halo, an oversimplified by-the-numbers FPS, against people who have been playing FPS titles on the platform they were designed for. Kind of a strange position to take.

I'm neither a PC nerd or a consolefag .. I own, and have always owned, every major platform on the market. I'm a true gamer and always will be, and I *still* stand by my opinion on Halo. Back when that came out, I was playing far superior games like Soldier of Fortune, Quake and Unreal Tournament.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 20:07    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I think you're in the wrong section because you're sitting there defending Halo, an oversimplified by-the-numbers FPS, against people who have been playing FPS titles on the platform they were designed for. Kind of a strange position to take.

I'm neither a PC nerd or a consolefag .. I own, and have always owned, every major platform on the market. I'm a true gamer and always will be, and I *still* stand by my opinion on Halo. Back when that came out, I was playing far superior games like Soldier of Fortune, Quake and Unreal Tournament.


No fucking shit. SoF was only good because of blood. And killing neo nazis.

Q3 and UT still get some love now and then. Excellent games.

So am I defending against myself then?

Are you on crack? You are actually claiming to be a gamer by telling me what platforms you´ve had and what not, which was the point I was going for in the first place. TO A TRUE GAMER IT SHOULD NOT MATTER ON WHAT PLATFORM, RATHER WHAT GAME!

Am I in the wrong section for stating the obvious?

And no, IMO halo was not crap and I´ve been here since fucking DOOM.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 20:11    Post subject:
Nailbiter wrote:

No fucking shit. SoF was only good because of blood. And killing neo nazis.


Wait, wait... let's back track a second shall we? I claim Halo is rubbish because it's oversimplified and completely run-of-the-mill, you get all uppity about it and start on some nonsense about how I'm not a gamer. Then you turn round and claim that a PC FPS is "only good because of the blood"? Anyone noticing the intense irony in this? I never said the "insert console name here" was crap .. I said Halo was rubbish. It doesn't matter what fucking platform it's on, it's still rubbish! Even prior CONSOLE shooters pissed all over Halo, especially games like Goldeneye and Perfect Dark.

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And no, IMO halo was not crap and I´ve been here since fucking DOOM.


Good for you. BTW; Doom wasn't the first FPS.. so how's about name-dropping something else?

Jeez, why is whenever I voice an opinion it always devolves into some nonsense argument nobody gives a rat's ass about? You like Halo, I don't. Can we just drop it and move on to how morons like Kudo Tsunoda are destroying our beloved pass-time?
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 20:18    Post subject:
I was 3 at the time Wolf3D (The mother of the FPS) and guess what? I played it back then! Beat that! =D (And forget the fact that my dad got it uninstalled for me because it was too scary ^^)

Wait, what was the thread about? Halo vs the rest of the FPS universe? Or Kinect vs FPS on PC?


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 20:19    Post subject:
SomerenV wrote:
I was 3 at the time Wolf3D (The mother of the FPS) and guess what? I played it back then! Beat that! =D


My mum bought me an Atari 2600 for my 3rd birthday. I've been playing games every single day since then... 26 years ago.

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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 20:21    Post subject:
For ME it was the first FPS. I didn´t play wolfenstein. Or maze, or whatever is considered the first fps.

Yes, let´s bactrack. You said halo is crap. I said it´s not, its a quality game, just not for everyone. Not crap though.

You say I´m in wrong section.

But since I know you play more then on one platform I was a bit confused and said I thought you were a gamer not a pc nerd.

You then misunderstood, thinking I was talking about halo.

I said that I wasn´t.

And then we are on this page and the confusion seems to escalate.

IMO SoF wasn´t the best game. It had blood and neonazis I´ll give it that. How you consider this to be a remark on all pc games in beyond me. So what´s the irony you are talking about?

edit: noticed you edited your post. Yeah, obviously thread is about bullshit kinect, but on that same page someone said hc gaming is pc gaming exclusive, or the like, while I said it wasn´t. Do you agree with him/her?


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 20:23    Post subject:
Hahahaha, what an ignorant retard. Well, what else can you expect from an idiot like him. Fuck off, Kudo and your fucking consoles.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 20:23    Post subject:
original COD / MOH > halo

nuff said
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 20:24    Post subject:
The irony is that you get all uppity about someone daring to insult your beloved Halo, yet you feel quite entitled to sit there and claim one of my PC examples is crap and the only thing going for it is the blood and "neo nazis"

I never claimed SoF was "the best game" but it sure as hell is a lot better than Halo. Again, in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 20:25    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
SomerenV wrote:
I was 3 at the time Wolf3D (The mother of the FPS) and guess what? I played it back then! Beat that! =D


My mum bought me an Atari 2600 for my 3rd birthday. I've been playing games every single day since then... 26 years ago.

^_^


I'm 21...you win Sad

snoop1050 wrote:
original COD / MOH > halo

nuff said


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 20:30    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
The irony is that you get all uppity about someone daring to insult your beloved Halo, yet you feel quite entitled to sit there and claim one of my PC examples is crap and the only thing going for it is the blood and "neo nazis"

I never claimed SoF was "the best game" but it sure as hell is a lot better than Halo. Again, in my opinion.


Heh. I´m in no way a halo fanatic, I just enjoy the games.

You gave 3 examples of pc-games. I love 2 of those. But yeah, I can see you are geting all uppity about me saying SoF wasn´t the best of games, if it wasn´t for gore and neonazis. Razz
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 20:32    Post subject:
Oh brother...
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 20:35    Post subject:
do you like gears of war to? one of the most advanced tactical FPS to ever hit gaming !
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 20:36    Post subject:
snoop1050 wrote:
do you like gears of war to? one of the most advanced tactical FPS to ever hit gaming !


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 20:37    Post subject:
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do you like gears of war to? one of the most advanced tactical FPS to ever hit gaming !


I liked mp in first one.

Do you like red dead redemption?
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 20:51    Post subject: Re: Kudo:"hardly anyone plays first person shooters on
Kudo: best be trollin', son. Mouse > LOL I WAVE MY WAND AND SHOOT THINGS

As much as derp-bots like this dude want to believe PC gaming is somehow in trouble, it somehow keeps going. Despite years of "TEH SKY IT IZ FALLING" claims by self aggrandized "experts," people still make lots of games for the PC.

Does "Derpie the Herpasaur Part 19" sell better on the Wii than on the PC? Sure does. How is that an indicator the PC gaming is dying? Derp games never sell that well on the PC.*

Besides, like it or not, there are thousands more games for the PC than all other platforms put together. Anyone with some talent and some skill can make a PC game, and maybe even make tons of cash (see: Minecraft et. al.).

PC gaming won't die unless people all decide to hate fun one day.

*Okay, derp-games like most MMOs and Farmville or whatever also make lots of cash on the PC. Derps abound. Herpa-derp derp. Point stands.


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 20:55    Post subject:
I think of hardcore gaming as more of an attitude. You play the same game over and over 8+ hours a day because you like it and you want to get good at it. Has little to do with platform or choice of game.

Back on topic though I find this guys comments about how "no one is playing fps on PC's anymore, it's all about the consoles" irksome if only for the fact it does ring slightly true.

However, to condemn the PC as a viable gaming platform to the general gaming public just in order to promote Kinect is a low blow. The PC market only suffers because of it's lack of big name exclusives and support from publishers. Not the fault of the gamers.

The PC enables me to be a lazy bum and sit at my desk moving only my wrist and fingers for hours at a time. Kinect however will force me to expend for more energy in the same span of time (possibly forcing me to even standup, oh no.)

I will let the games speak for themselves anyhow but surely by the same token, playing an fps game with SONY Move and it's 3D tech would be an even better experience then Kinect.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 21:00    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Nailbiter wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
IMO it sucks. Ridiculously overrated, simplified, rubbish. I still think you're in the wrong section


I thought you were a gamer not a pc nerd? Scratch Head


Oh I'm sorry... I didn't realise disliking Halo makes me not only a PC nerd, but also discounts my status as a gamer.


Why do you call yourself a gamer?
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/extra-punctuation/8031-Extra-Punctuation-Dont-Use-the-Word-Gamer

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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 21:02    Post subject:
I'm two years older than Ben, therefore he doesn't have the experience or right to tell me to stop labelling myself Smug Besides, his rant about how you shouldn't be proud of being a gamer is just ridiculous.
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 21:08    Post subject:
That's your opinion.
Read some more articles on that topic couple of days ago and I gotta say I kinda agree that labeling people who play video games is downright retarded.
Does it make you special in any way that you play video games? Wink
Just saying.


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Now you're just arguing semantics. Getting fucked in the ass with a broom stale is an "improvement" over getting stabbed in the eye with a fork Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 21:10    Post subject:
My wife's grandma can't figure out how to watch DVDs, is afraid to hurt the TV by using the remote control, and is terrified of "strange buttons" on her cell phone. She seriously thinks accidentally pressing one will make her house burn down or something.

But she can play games. And she does. Farmville and something else on Facebook -- I'm amazed by this. Everyone is a gamer anymore.


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 21:12    Post subject:
Reklis wrote:
That's your opinion.
Read some more articles on that topic couple of days ago and I gotta say I kinda agree that labeling people who play video games is downright retarded.
Does it make you special in any way that you play video games? Wink
Just saying.


So you're saying people should be ashamed for playing games? I'm not talking about the label, I'm talking about him saying that you shouldn't be proud of it. I say you have every right to be as proud of being a gamer, as anyone else is proud of their hobby.

Oh and; http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=boiling_blood (Well that's just your opinion:)

Of course it's my sodding opinion. I'm not speaking for the rest of the human race Razz
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