Civilization V
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couleur
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 20:43    Post subject:
Just finished the demo, and I must say, it's still as addicting as the other civ games. The new additions felt pretty natural, although there were a bit to many city states on that small island.

Now, I'd like the full game plz. Unfortunately I'm in the EU Sad, and because steam is uncrackable I'm fucking then...

Fucking is also nice once in a while...


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snoop1050
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 20:55    Post subject:
your hand? oh dear
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snoop1050
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your hand? oh dear
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Overlord123




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 20:55    Post subject:
Did you try Cheat Engine for the turn number?
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Ragedoctor




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 20:55    Post subject:
My original plan was to wank off until the release came, however my dick is getting thoroughly sore now... Better hurry the fuck up sceneboys
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smocc




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 21:09    Post subject:
Keep jerking it, doc. You don't wanna jinx it now.
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nih




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 21:35    Post subject:
So eh, CIVILIZATION.V..READNFO-SKIDROW.


Most likely fake, but one is allowed to dream, right?
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couleur
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 21:35    Post subject:
snoop1050 wrote:
your hand? oh dear


whats wrong about it?

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arw




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 21:43    Post subject:
nih wrote:
So eh, CIVILIZATION.V..READNFO-SKIDROW.


Most likely fake, but one is allowed to dream, right?


Whats with the extra periods

V..
SKIDROW.

Did you put them in by mistake or is that the release name copy and pasted?
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Hellifant




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 22:03    Post subject:
Well the trick with Cheat Engine works but theres one major problem that you cant fix with hax ! Once you researched everything in the demo, you cant click on end turn anymore and you have to force quit Sad Chivalry was the last tech for me, i was just getting started Sad

How it works :

Its rather easy. Start CE -> then start CIV5 -> select CIV5.exe in CE and return to the game to do the first turn. After that you switch back to CE and look for the value 1 for the first time. When you did that you go back and do another turn and switch back again to CE now you enter 2 but this time you click on NEXT SCAN. You do that until the numbers on the left box decrease. I found the right value after the ninth turn.
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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 22:07    Post subject:
i had to turn leader, shadow and fog of war on medium , or the game would crash to desktop ... took me an hour to figure it out god fucking damnit, ridicoulous for such a CRAPPY GFX engine, seriously the tiles look like a 3 year old made it
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Stuppe




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 22:12    Post subject:
Must admit the graphics arent that impressive, i mean whats all the DX 10/11 for? I dont see any special effects etc.. Game does have a very smooth and vibrant look tho. I like it, just one more turn!
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Hellifant




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 22:24    Post subject:
Anyone tried to run the preloaded game from steam with the civ5 demo.exe yet?
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 22:26    Post subject:
The exe isn't encrypted of the preload data, rest of the files are, proxy or the non-encrypted and valid US NCF files will be required to bypass this.
(Or a disc image or other release to overwrite said encrypted files along with a Steam_appid.txt file to get by that check.)
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Theescapist




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 22:34    Post subject:
I'm finding the game a bit far fetched lol.
To give it 95%????
Hmmmm.


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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 22:36    Post subject:
You find the game "far fetched"? What does that mean?
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CookieCrumb




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 22:39    Post subject:
Played the demo and I don't think I can say much after 100 turns but so far:
I didn't mind the removal of stacking units or the removal of religions and the... what's it called the thingie where you could chose your nations goverment system.
Actually I only remembed those weren't in anymore after finishing the demo Very Happy


sabin1981 wrote:
Now you're just arguing semantics. Getting fucked in the ass with a broom stale is an "improvement" over getting stabbed in the eye with a fork Rolling Eyes
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H4wkeye




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 22:44    Post subject:
I'm playing the demo and the game keeps crashing. Anyone else have the issues? Playing in DX9, cause DX 10 crashed for me right at the start Sad
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CookieCrumb




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 22:53    Post subject:
Something that happened to me in the demo:
I had 3 cities and Cesar thought it would be a brilliant idea to settle right in the center of my little triangle.
I was like fuck you Cesar and started hauling greek cavalry at his ass (btw. atatcking cities? Holy shit that's different from what I remember).
So I fuck his city up and all of a sudden he tries to negotiate a peace treaty.
The only reason I even started something was because I wanted this city gone (or under my control).
Anyways. What did he offer? A peace treaty. What did he want? A peace treaty (duh), gold and 2 of my resources.
My face: O.o
I just wiped the floor with his defenders. Germany and Egypt wouldn't harass me because they pretty much hated Cesar already so I had nothing to fear from them. And Cesar's got the balls to demand stuff from me? Again: O.o
Now comes the funny part.
I change the offer to: You give me that one city and I don't kill you.
What does Cesar do? Says something along the lines "Well, I have no other choice but to accept."

What the hell game? What's up with that AI?

@H4wkeye:
Sorry, can't help you there but maybe it comforts you that I've heard of people who bought the game and have the same issue? :/

edit:
Rock Paper Shotgun review:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/09/21/wot-i-think-civilization-v/#more-39674

I'm gonna start up the demo again and take another look at the graphics, because I like them. Then again, I also liked Elemental's gfx (if only the game would be sort of playable by now :/ )


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fawe4




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 22:56    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
i had to turn leader, shadow and fog of war on medium , or the game would crash to desktop ... took me an hour to figure it out god fucking damnit, ridicoulous for such a CRAPPY GFX engine, seriously the tiles look like a 3 year old made it


Similair problem. Thanks to +2 days on European release and Demo they won't see a dime from me untill I try priated version. That game engine is really pathetic. Looks very average, number of units is decreased and it still runs like crap.
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Epsilon
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 23:12    Post subject:
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No stats to say you’ve camped too close or you’ve spent too long nibbling France’s earlobes. Just neutral trading, occasionally switching to sudden, unexpected murderousness. It’s this aspect of the game that most requires improvement, for it gives no sense that the other Civs are Civs and, to be honest, it’s so dry and streamlined that it’s not particulary appealing an endeavour. I found myself far more prone to doing my own thing and keeping a bare minimum level of contact up with my sometime neighbours. Maybe that’s why they kept declaring futile wars on me. But I doubt it.


As I originally expected by 2k as it has become, streamline more, to appeal to a wider crowd, make it easier and ultimately dumb it down.

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There are several expansion pack-shaped holes in Civ V, and diplomacy’s the largest of them. The next is religion, and then there’s a smattering of smaller ones for social policies. With these, Civ veers ever so slightly towards RPG – defining your Civ as a build that much more, rather than pushing onwards to a silent target of your own .

Not expansion pack shaped holes, dlc holes, they're even described in the manual.

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With arguably over-fussy complications removed, such as having to build separate boats to ferry units across seas (some folk love their ship-building, but I’m so much happier knowing that I don’t have to wait another 14 turns just so I can tell my soldiers to go over there)


Yes it does make more sense that your human soldiers can just transform into boats at will, nevermind the fact that to build the boat they would need resources, and they can transform into boats at a desert hex...Transformers more than meets the eye! lol wut

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I want it to be better, I want it to be bolder, I want it to address and improve the very foundations of Civilization, but it’s sure as hell going to sit on my hard drive for months anyway. Yeah, this’ll ultimately be remembered as one of the filler tracks on Civ’s best-of LP, one of the ones you never quite felt had real heart, real soul – but it’s a tune I’m more than happy to hum.


Yes we'll play it anyway just because it's civilization, thinking for ourselves is hard nowadays so we just take what we're served and thank the guy serving it to us, even if it's not an improvement on what we already have.
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 23:17    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:
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No stats to say you’ve camped too close or you’ve spent too long nibbling France’s earlobes. Just neutral trading, occasionally switching to sudden, unexpected murderousness. It’s this aspect of the game that most requires improvement, for it gives no sense that the other Civs are Civs and, to be honest, it’s so dry and streamlined that it’s not particulary appealing an endeavour. I found myself far more prone to doing my own thing and keeping a bare minimum level of contact up with my sometime neighbours. Maybe that’s why they kept declaring futile wars on me. But I doubt it.


As I originally expected by 2k as it has become, streamline more, to appeal to a wider crowd, make it easier and ultimately dumb it down.

Quote:
There are several expansion pack-shaped holes in Civ V, and diplomacy’s the largest of them. The next is religion, and then there’s a smattering of smaller ones for social policies. With these, Civ veers ever so slightly towards RPG – defining your Civ as a build that much more, rather than pushing onwards to a silent target of your own .

Not expansion pack shaped holes, dlc holes, they're even described in the manual.

Quote:
With arguably over-fussy complications removed, such as having to build separate boats to ferry units across seas (some folk love their ship-building, but I’m so much happier knowing that I don’t have to wait another 14 turns just so I can tell my soldiers to go over there)


Yes it does make more sense that your human soldiers can just transform into boats at will, nevermind the fact that to build the boat they would need resources, and they can transform into boats at a desert hex...Transformers more than meets the eye! lol wut

Quote:
I want it to be better, I want it to be bolder, I want it to address and improve the very foundations of Civilization, but it’s sure as hell going to sit on my hard drive for months anyway. Yeah, this’ll ultimately be remembered as one of the filler tracks on Civ’s best-of LP, one of the ones you never quite felt had real heart, real soul – but it’s a tune I’m more than happy to hum.


Yes we'll play it anyway just because it's civilization, thinking for ourselves is hard nowadays so we just take what we're served and thank the guy serving it to us, even if it's not an improvement on what we already have.


Epsilon if you were a woman I'd marry you and fuck you in teh butt. (Fucking butt first would be okay aswell)
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 23:18    Post subject:
f1-2010/ scened today, 3 days early by Razor, and no release of this yet, hmmm, they're both released through steam, ...


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Stuppe




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 23:24    Post subject:
I cry.
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smocc




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 23:28    Post subject:
BLuNT318 wrote:
f1-2010/ scened today, 3 days early by Razor, and no release of this yet, hmmm, they're both released through steam, ...


Well, once cracked, they have to test it.

And this is Civ... you know how that goes.


ONE. MORE. TURN.
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CookieCrumb




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 23:29    Post subject:
@Epsilon
So you're saying you're not playing it then? Smug

Gotta agree on the transport boat thing.
And if they really lobotomized the AIs into becoming mindless random warmongers that's really a step into the wrong direction. More like a dive into the garbage dumpster.

But I have to agree with his last paragraph.
Civ 5 ain't gonna be memorable like Civ 1 or Civ 4 (which I loved to death)
Probably not gonna buy it right away but once it gets released on steam with all it's DLC at a reasonable discount, I'm gonna buy it.
But I'm still gonna play the heck out of it until then (once it gets a scene release that is :/ )


sabin1981 wrote:
Now you're just arguing semantics. Getting fucked in the ass with a broom stale is an "improvement" over getting stabbed in the eye with a fork Rolling Eyes
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beets




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 23:29    Post subject:
expected better Sad my plan was to buy the ce and play a release for now, maybe I should have messed around with a proxy/vpn like a lot of others
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ShadowB




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 23:30    Post subject:
Hold your horses, pardners.

Civ4 1.00 had quite the bucketful of issues as well, both technical and AI related. And I don't recall Civ3 being absolutely perfect on release (but that was nearly 10 years ago so I can't vividly remember). I do remember having to wait for a good bunch of patches because, even on Chieftain, the combat RNG felt rather cheaty sometimes.

So yeah, Civ5 won't be a shining, cut diamond right away.

And Epsilon, cut 'em some slack with that. There's tons of small logistical details that have remained abstracted since Civ1 and/or Civ2, like diplomats and caravans, for instance. You don't see the merchant marine working either, nor most of your civilians travelling between your cities. Yes, streamlining can be a slipper slope, but I wouldn't overreact over the new sea transport mechanics.

Plus I get the idea someone will spot the aircraft carrier mechanics, put two and two together and bring standard transports back in a mod eventually.


PS: One of the 'complicated' things Civ5 actually gave back to the series in the Zones of Control (ZoC) concept, which had been taken out in Civ4, for no apparent reason. But nobody complained about that 'streamlining' back then.


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SeppoIisakki




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 23:31    Post subject:
BLuNT318 wrote:
f1-2010/ scened today, 3 days early by Razor, and no release of this yet, hmmm, they're both released through steam, ...


The groups have surely set their priorities straight Razz
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CookieCrumb




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Sep 2010 23:33    Post subject:
@ShadowB
Since I got a foggy memory to every Civ before 4 care to explain the ZoC concept to me?


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Now you're just arguing semantics. Getting fucked in the ass with a broom stale is an "improvement" over getting stabbed in the eye with a fork Rolling Eyes
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