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kumkss
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Location: Chile
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well, in my opinion, PC gaming is superior to the console gaming. we have some wonderful titles lately, anno 1404, amnesia, starcraft2, civ v and a bunch more, alltrough civ v needs some urgent polish. love those games and i think they mark an evolution from the late 90' and early 00'.-
i thing a new wing commander should be made. maybe knight of honor 2 too.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Oct 2010 02:01 Post subject: |
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Thats fucking stupid. Games are even better now. It's just that you don't have so much frustration with them anymore..
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ixigia
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Oct 2010 02:13 Post subject: |
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Oh hai tombata 
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TSR69
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Location: Republic of the Seven United Provinces
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Oct 2010 05:11 Post subject: |
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Heres a question:
Why would the companies want to cater to you?
You dont offer more money.
Youre a whiny bunch who dont seem to know what they want since you say you want the old gaming days back but you dont want the old games.
The companies who decide to try anyway get a big fat slap in the face for not delivering a "polished" product on day one when they obviously cant invest as much as say blizzard has done on wow or starcraft 2. Look at Elemental for example.
Why would you settle for less money from confused whiny people who keep pestering you to "fix it!" instead of more money from dumb people who you dont have to bother with after youve sold them your product?
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Oct 2010 05:32 Post subject: |
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| open81 wrote: | | The companies who decide to try anyway get a big fat slap in the face for not delivering a "polished" product on day one when they obviously cant invest as much as say blizzard has done on wow or starcraft 2. Look at Elemental for example. |
Why don't you look at Sins of a Solar Empire that has sold AMAZINGLY WELL?
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=20026
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Oct 2010 11:34 Post subject: |
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| open81 wrote: | Heres a question:
Why would the companies want to cater to you?
You dont offer more money.
Youre a whiny bunch who dont seem to know what they want since you say you want the old gaming days back but you dont want the old games.
The companies who decide to try anyway get a big fat slap in the face for not delivering a "polished" product on day one when they obviously cant invest as much as say blizzard has done on wow or starcraft 2. Look at Elemental for example.
Why would you settle for less money from confused whiny people who keep pestering you to "fix it!" instead of more money from dumb people who you dont have to bother with after youve sold them your product? |
Why would the government cater to you?
Why would they give you that permit to expand your house?
I cant believe youre asking such a fucking retarded question like this..
I suggest you keep your total posting to three and get the fuck out.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Oct 2010 11:35 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Oct 2010 12:06 Post subject: |
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| Ragedoctor wrote: | | open81 wrote: | Heres a question:
Why would the companies want to cater to you?
You dont offer more money.
Youre a whiny bunch who dont seem to know what they want since you say you want the old gaming days back but you dont want the old games.
The companies who decide to try anyway get a big fat slap in the face for not delivering a "polished" product on day one when they obviously cant invest as much as say blizzard has done on wow or starcraft 2. Look at Elemental for example.
Why would you settle for less money from confused whiny people who keep pestering you to "fix it!" instead of more money from dumb people who you dont have to bother with after youve sold them your product? |
Why would the government cater to you?
Why would they give you that permit to expand your house?
I cant believe youre asking such a fucking retarded question like this..
I suggest you keep your total posting to three and get the fuck out. |
WTF ? Don't compare the government to a private, profit driven, company. THAT's retarded. Open81 is right, we're living in sad times.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Oct 2010 13:44 Post subject: |
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| JanKowalski82 wrote: | | Ragedoctor wrote: | | open81 wrote: | Heres a question:
Why would the companies want to cater to you?
You dont offer more money.
Youre a whiny bunch who dont seem to know what they want since you say you want the old gaming days back but you dont want the old games.
The companies who decide to try anyway get a big fat slap in the face for not delivering a "polished" product on day one when they obviously cant invest as much as say blizzard has done on wow or starcraft 2. Look at Elemental for example.
Why would you settle for less money from confused whiny people who keep pestering you to "fix it!" instead of more money from dumb people who you dont have to bother with after youve sold them your product? |
Why would the government cater to you?
Why would they give you that permit to expand your house?
I cant believe youre asking such a fucking retarded question like this..
I suggest you keep your total posting to three and get the fuck out. |
WTF ? Don't compare the government to a private, profit driven, company. THAT's retarded. Open81 is right, we're living in sad times. |
I unignore you to see what kidn of argument youve made and yet again you prove to be unable to grasp the simplest of logic and meaning. How the hell can you imply that there is something that does not run on a profit-cost model in todays society. I can see from your delusional argument you havent got that much experience in life. Doesnt your government do something to gain something? Doesnt a corperation do the exact same thing? I dont feel like getting into an argument with you again since you will simply repeat the same flawed logic over and over and over again. So I welcome thee back to my ignore list and please refrain from trying to prove everything I saw wrong simply because you have a dislike for me, it makes you post stupid things.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Oct 2010 14:13 Post subject: |
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No Ragedoctor governments and companies are not the same thing and comparing me spending money on a product with getting a permit of any kind from the government makes no sense.
The government wants my vote next election. The company wants my money right now and preferrably never have to deal with me again unless theres more money involved in it.
You didnt answer the question. Let me put it this way: Why would YOU settle for less if you were in charge of a company making a game? How would you justify this decision to the people who invested millions in your company?
Stardock is an exception to market rules since they get their funding from something other than sales according to their own developers.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Oct 2010 14:19 Post subject: |
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| Ragedoctor wrote: | | JanKowalski82 wrote: | | Ragedoctor wrote: |
Why would the government cater to you?
Why would they give you that permit to expand your house?
I cant believe youre asking such a fucking retarded question like this..
I suggest you keep your total posting to three and get the fuck out. |
WTF ? Don't compare the government to a private, profit driven, company. THAT's retarded. Open81 is right, we're living in sad times. |
I unignore you to see what kidn of argument youve made and yet again you prove to be unable to grasp the simplest of logic and meaning. How the hell can you imply that there is something that does not run on a profit-cost model in todays society. I can see from your delusional argument you havent got that much experience in life. Doesnt your government do something to gain something? Doesnt a corperation do the exact same thing? I dont feel like getting into an argument with you again since you will simply repeat the same flawed logic over and over and over again. So I welcome thee back to my ignore list and please refrain from trying to prove everything I saw wrong simply because you have a dislike for me, it makes you post stupid things. |
The government HAS to give you permit to expand your house, because you have the RIGHT to expand your house, guaranteed by LAW. No law, on the other hand, guarantees you high quality games.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Oct 2010 14:32 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I unignore you to see what kidn of argument youve made and yet again you prove to be unable to grasp the simplest of logic and meaning. How the hell can you imply that there is something that does not run on a profit-cost model in todays society. I can see from your delusional argument you havent got that much experience in life. Doesnt your government do something to gain something? Doesnt a corperation do the exact same thing? I dont feel like getting into an argument with you again since you will simply repeat the same flawed logic over and over and over again. So I welcome thee back to my ignore list and please refrain from trying to prove everything I saw wrong simply because you have a dislike for me, it makes you post stupid things. |
wooow, you speak too much for my poor brain...how could it be...a politician in this forum.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Oct 2010 14:35 Post subject: |
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@JanKowalski82
First, it is city council that gives you the expansion permit, not the government, and they do not do this out of the goodness of their heart, they do this so they can get from you larger taxes on the expanded house. Are you really that naive?
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Oct 2010 14:38 Post subject: |
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or just buy The Sims 3 and you will get bigger houses, ha ha
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Oct 2010 14:51 Post subject: |
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To be fair the console and PC forum should just be merged, nothing that comes out on pc these days isnt also on 360, obviously Im joking about the merge but if you look at both theres very little difference.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Oct 2010 14:55 Post subject: |
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| db2431 wrote: | | To be fair the console and PC forum should just be merged, nothing that comes out on pc these days isnt also on 360, obviously Im joking about the merge but if you look at both theres very little difference. |
that's true...don't forget iPod and cellphones games
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Oct 2010 15:01 Post subject: |
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| JanKowalski82 wrote: | | The term government has more than 1 meaning, you know. I wasn't talking about central government. You also seem to be ignoring, that I'm not from a western country. If the place where you live is like you described it (that the money from taxes is the reason, having rights has nothing to do with it), then you are living in a very sad place. |
Poland is just the same as here.
You are just
Wish I could view the world so naively. |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Oct 2010 15:09 Post subject: |
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I quoted him just for you.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Oct 2010 15:13 Post subject: |
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Ragedoctor's analogy of govt's vice versa game publishers is indeed retarded. Game companies doesn't serve under a public service charter. Their allegiance goes to their stock holders not to the public. The government's allegiance should be to it's citizens first and foremost. There's the difference. At least in a liberal democracy.
Oh yeah and his momma clearly didn't teach him any manners so I suggest he keep his total post count to 407 and get the fuck out -- or at least chill the fuck down when he's talking to civil people that's only crime is disagreement.
I agree with you open81. Why would game publishers cater to us (and ultimately me)? I'm hard to please, I don't buy all the games I play, I have very high standards and I'm used to high quality games. I also know how to recoqnize one when I see one. I'm everything the console derp isn't, but the bottom line is profit. PC's doesn't bring in the profit anymore and there's the deciding factor in the end of the day.
Many are sitting here complaining about products they never buy. I do believe there's been a shift lately though. I do believe many try to buy the games worthy of purchase. I know I do at least and that's the only thing that can save PC-gaming in the end. That PC developers earn a profit on our platform.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Oct 2010 15:15 Post subject: |
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@ iNatan
So you think it's the same in every country ? You should spend some time in other countries (and I don't mean a 2-week visit). You would see how different it is in the US and, for example, Sweden or France. And Poland.
@ Taffelost
Finally, someone who understands the difference, what a relief.
@ Ragedoctor
The term western countries in Poland means western Europe + the US and Kanada. The meaning has changed over the years, but most people still understand it like this.
Notice how I answered you in a polite way, although you tried very hard to insult me. Not the first time though, so I'm not "dissapointed".
Ok, this has gone too far off-topic. I don't want to argue anymore.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Oct 2010 15:28 Post subject: |
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| Taffelost wrote: | Ragedoctor's analogy of govt's vice versa game publishers is indeed retarded. Game companies doesn't serve under a public service charter. Their allegiance goes to their stock holders not to the public. The government's allegiance should be to it's citizens first and foremost. There's the difference. At least in a liberal democracy.
Oh yeah and his momma clearly didn't teach him any manners so I suggest he keep his total post count to 407 and get the fuck out -- or at least chill the fuck down when he's talking to civil people that's only crime is disagreement.
I agree with you open81. Why would game publishers cater to us (and ultimately me)? I'm hard to please, I don't buy all the games I play, I have very high standards and I'm used to high quality games. I also know how to recoqnize one when I see one. I'm everything the console derp isn't, but the bottom line is profit. PC's doesn't bring in the profit anymore and there's the deciding factor in the end of the day.
Many are sitting here complaining about products they never buy. I do believe there's been a shift lately though. I do believe many try to buy the games worthy of purchase. I know I do at least and that's the only thing that can save PC-gaming in the end. That PC developers earn a profit on our platform. |
Must... Not.. Post...
Im happy you think that the government is there to represent us instead of to form a control over us. A government is there to bring order(Its goal, or profit) therefor it takes liberties from the citizen(the Consumer) the one that caters to you most, you vote for as it is with a product. The one that caters to you most you buy. And if you wonder why I speak of taking liberties, who defines what you can do and cannot do? Isnt that the law, as the dev decides what you can do within the game and what you cannot?
This is just one part I can throw before you that displays the great similarities between the two, however its time to stop posting for me.
I wont go into more details and this will be my last post, if you want to continue the argument make another topic.
And yeah you call me rude, however he called us a whiny bunch who dont know what they want, confused whiny people. You might actually want to read before you post in all your unlimited wisdom, seeing as this is the PC gamers forum.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Oct 2010 15:43 Post subject: |
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Its pretty obvious the aliens are at fault for everything. Lets just agree on that.
Things are bound to get better now that UN has an alien ambassador.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Oct 2010 15:47 Post subject: |
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At least windows 7 is stable 
Empty again 
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