Blizzard are nothing but cunts and I'm astounded the fanboys drool all over Blizzcock so vigorously. Blizzard are LAUGHING at you fools. Day in, day out.
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Yeah, people don't realize they can't have it both ways. Blizzard is quality over quantity. I am perfectly content with 18 months of dev time.
This deserves a wall of face-palm but, to be honest, you're a Blizzbuttboy and I can't be arsed. You're "content" with 18 months of dev time? So would we be... but by the time this comes out it will have been almost NINE YEARS of development time.
It's an RTS heavily leaning on the SP component, unlike most RTS's. Making those CGI movies alone will take time. Blizzard games are extremely detailed, but sadly that takes a shitload of time. I doubt most people even notice half of the small details put in, but it's better than cutting corners.
doesn't really matter to me. I'm not in a hurry to see the single player story continue and I feel I got a full game and easily my money's worth with starcraft 2 wol. the campaign was quite long and varied and the multiplayer is great.
I have about 400 games online so far and I can't say I'm ever feeling like "oh god fuck blizzard why can't they release their expansion already?!".
and hey, they're still easily faster than valve with their hl2 episodes... you know how they were supposed to come out with 1 expansion every 6 months....
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Blizzard seriously massed up with SC2 development{when it comes to Timing}... it might prove tough,that they really focused on Wings of Liberty,SC2 is good game and worth every penny for me,I'm not Blizzard "Fanboy" cuz I'm really disappointed with this Huge Delay for the next expansion pack,but at least they still going to Support the Current game for the next years.
This deserves a wall of face-palm but, to be honest, you're a Blizzbuttboy and I can't be arsed. You're "content" with 18 months of dev time? So would we be... but by the time this comes out it will have been almost NINE YEARS of development time.
Warcraft 3 frozen throne was released 1 year after warcraft 3, and brood war less than a year after starcraft.
Both were amazing, the singleplayer campaigns were loaded (long campaign, good story, CGI etc.), not to mention the continuing balancing support for the high competitive scene. Only downside of starcraft 2 = battlenet 2 lacking in certain areas, but not many games can hold a candle against this mammoth.
Not really much fanboyism is needed to praise Blizzard, 18 months for the first expansion is actually a lot of time if you ask me, they already got everything they need to add content. One could say that 18 months is not much for a full fledge game, but remember that frozen throne and brood war had as many content as the main game and should only be seen as "just" an expansion from a technical stand point.
Um... didn't you just prove my point? WC3 expansion; 1 year. SC1 expansion; less than 1 year. SCII development time so far; 7 years. 1st expansion (which was supposed to be part of the original game until ActiBlizzard had the smart idea to bilk it's customers even more by splitting it into three) 1 and a half years later.
When was it supposed to be part of the original game?
As long as I can remember it was always supposed to be in the expansions. Oh well guess people would really rather have the milking DLCs instead of 15-20 hour expansion campaigns..
Wigs of Liberty, especially with its extensive and detailed SP experience, is a game on its own. I wouldn't even dare call it "split". If the second episode, or whatever it's called, has the same scope, 1.5 years of development time is understandable. Creating teh basis for a story is difficult, working it out properly is even worse.
Wigs of Liberty, especially with its extensive and detailed SP experience, is a game on its own. I wouldn't even dare call it "split". If the second episode, or whatever it's called, has the same scope, 1.5 years of development time is understandable. Creating teh basis for a story is difficult, working it out properly is even worse.
So it took 7 years to make Wings of Liberty and will only take 18 months to make Heart of the Swarm? Ok...
Anyway, don't worry guys. I won't keep trash-talking your favourite RTS any longer. I've spoke my piece and that's that <3
Ok, I thought you meant that 18 months of dev time for a game is too short.
In the end, starcraft 2 as a whole will have more offline vanilla gameplay than both starcraft and warcraft 3.
Of course you will have to pay more, but I'd rather pay for these kind of games than most offerings today (altho some are quite good) with just 10 hours of gameplay (like Batman AA).
"Seven years of development" is a faulty expression. Initial development might've started seven years ago, but Blizzard has stated several times everything was revamped several times (just like Diablo 3 btw). It would be like bitching at Gearbox for Duke Nukem, since development started 14 years ago. Of course the second release will be much faster than the initial one, the basis for it is already present. Don't tell me you don't see teh simple logic in that.
Blizzard is irritating, Blizzard seems fixated on every single detail, but they deliver. I was bitching and moaning about Diablo 3, but after playing SC2 I understand. Most devs don't put half the effort in their games as Blizzard does. Most devs of course can't afford to put that effort in their games (time, money).
Yeah SC2 is my favorite RTS, I haven't even completed the SP yet let alone bought the game.
Whining about not getting a 60 hour campaign in this day and age won't get you very far unless you only do it against Blizzard games then I guess it will.
Blizzard are nothing but cunts and I'm astounded the fanboys drool all over Blizzcock so vigorously. Blizzard are LAUGHING at you fools. Day in, day out.
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Yeah, people don't realize they can't have it both ways. Blizzard is quality over quantity. I am perfectly content with 18 months of dev time.
This deserves a wall of face-palm but, to be honest, you're a Blizzbuttboy and I can't be arsed. You're "content" with 18 months of dev time? So would we be... but by the time this comes out it will have been almost NINE YEARS of development time.
you whine when they release l4d2 year after l4d, you whine when dlcs come out same day as game, its too early, you whine when dlc comes out 5 months after game release "its too late " and now you whine when full fledged expansion comes out 1,5 year after original game ?
are you ever happy, seriously, dont like it dont play, dont buy and dont troll..
L4D2 was a full-priced expansion to an abandoned game, despite repeated claims to the contrary by Valve. DLC released on the same day as a game is ripped content from said game. I have never mentioned DLC being released 5 months later as "too late" A full fledged expansion coming out 18 months after game release, even though the main game was split into three to make more money.
Butthurt much? Don't worry, I'm sure Blizzard will ship a jar of vaseline with Heart of the Swarm
I stop caring a long time ago for previews, promises of devs, hypemeter or whatsoever.
On the day the game is out, I get an impression of several reviews and of people I know, very good game? I buy. Nothing more to it. I buy the game for what it is, I don't pay for their promises (whatever they might be).
I stop caring a long time ago for previews, promises of devs, hypemeter or whatsoever.
On the day the game is out, I get an impression of several reviews and of people I know, very good game? I buy. Nothing more to it. I buy the game for what it is, I don't pay for their promises (whatever they might be).
That's pretty much the only way to stay sane if you're really into games. I played, and finished, SC2 and it was enjoyable - I liked it a lot more than I thought I would - but did it earn the insane amount of praise it was getting pre and after release? Not really, not to me at least. The only reason I'm even interested in HotS (and the following Protoss campaign also) is because I've invested time in the SP campaign and want closure.
L4D2 was a full-priced expansion to an abandoned game, despite repeated claims to the contrary by Valve. DLC released on the same day as a game is ripped content from said game. I have never mentioned DLC being released 5 months later as "too late" A full fledged expansion coming out 18 months after game release, even though the main game was split into three to make more money.
Butthurt much? Don't worry, I'm sure Blizzard will ship a jar of vaseline with Heart of the Swarm
i never gave a shit if its 1 game or if its 5 games every 1.5 year, which is pretty common for expansions
not like you paid for game to have right to whine about it, and you cant call sc2 as half game, it surely isnt.. and you didnt saw second one to judge if it was good or bad, short or long, so how about some reality check?
sabin1981 for someone who don't really care much for the game, you sure as hell bitch a ton about it.
As for your oppinion about if the game was worth it, well to be completely honest, after the many years I have been lurking in here, I can't quite recall the last game you DID like AFTER it's release, you seem to be mostly about whining how things aint how you want it, how everything is that idiot pear thing you all call "derp" and how things are just terrible.
As for me, I enjoyed the singleplayer of SC2, I think 18 month's is WAAAAAAY too long development for something they already have the engine for, but it's blizzard, they are always slow, but they always deliver quality with less bugs than almost anyone else, more balance and incredible cutscenes.
You should try taking a few "Happy pills" and then play games, remember they are there for fun, if you don't like them, why take the time to bitch about it when others do ?
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I stop caring a long time ago for previews, promises of devs, hypemeter or whatsoever.
On the day the game is out, I get an impression of several reviews and of people I know, very good game? I buy. Nothing more to it. I buy the game for what it is, I don't pay for their promises (whatever they might be).
That's pretty much the only way to stay sane if you're really into games. I played, and finished, SC2 and it was enjoyable - I liked it a lot more than I thought I would - but did it earn the insane amount of praise it was getting pre and after release? Not really, not to me at least. The only reason I'm even interested in HotS (and the following Protoss campaign also) is because I've invested time in the SP campaign and want closure.
As for your oppinion about if the game was worth it, well to be completely honest, after the many years I have been lurking in here, I can't quite recall the last game you DID like AFTER it's release
Then you're either lying about how long you've "lurked" here () or you're deliberately ignoring how much praise I give a metric shit-ton of games, just so you can add more weight to your slander posts. Good show. Or does your definition of "like" mean I have to be like with a game in order to "like" it?
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As for me, I enjoyed the singleplayer of SC2, I think 18 month's is WAAAAAAY too long development for something they already have the engine for, but it's blizzard, they are always slow
So did I. I'm pretty sure I was exceptionally specific about that. Numerous times. As for the dev-time; that was exactly my point. 18 months is too long a development time for something they already have all the assets for AND something they've already been working on for insert-number-of years.
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You should try taking a few "Happy pills" and then play games, remember they are there for fun, if you don't like them, why take the time to bitch about it when others do ?
I'm completely happy, thanks. I appreciate your concern but don't fret; it's not warranted. There are thousands of games I thoroughly enjoy, just as there are thousands more I really don't. The very fact that I have, repeatedly, stated that I enjoyed SCII's SP campaign should be obvious, but I guess you people only read what you want to read My bitching, as you so eloquently put it, is always with reason. I don't hate anything for the sake of hating and I bitch because I care *wide smile with a teeth sparkle*
What I find absolutely fascinating is that you people don't just ignore me. I bitch about your favourite game/developer/whatever, and I always give reasons for doing so, yet what happens instead? You all get your hackles up and start going off on tirades at me. Oh I'm sorry, was I supposed to be shouting the praises of this game from every rooftop in town else I'm just "trolling"? I didn't realise the only opinion that is considered valid to you Blizzard fanboys was one that basically says "ZOMG1111!! BESTEST GAME EVAH!§"
I tell you what. I'll make a deal with you all. Since I'm already a target for your ire, how about you come up with some meaningful attacks instead? As for my side of the bargain, I'll give you something to whine at me about;
StarCraft II sucks compared to Dawn of War II or World in Conflict.
Yeah, alright, I skimmed your post and that's the impression I got. You say you enjoyed the SP, but why do you want to get bitched at? Why do you want "meaningful attacks"?
Yeah, World in Conflict was great. Dawn of War II was good but the first one was better.
So, in the end, what's your goddamn point? Are you just terribly bored?
I don't want to get bitched at, but it seems to be happening anyway .. so I figured "Fine, at least have a REASON to bitch at me rather than just being all butthurt because I don't consider 18 months dev-time worth waiting for the second part of the ripped game"
anyone who claims that dawn of war 2 is great, never played or loved first one.. man i was so happy when they announced second one, i was like, better graphics, better optimization, fixed path finding and units getting stuck when ur at unit limit.. = epic win
what i found in dow 2 beta wasnt dow, it was coh, i never wanted nor particularly enjoyed
anyone who claims that dawn of war 2 is great, never played or loved first one.. man i was so happy when they announced second one, i was like, better graphics, better optimization, fixed path finding and units getting stuck when ur at unit limit.. = epic win
How in the world? Oh I'm sure Leo would have a lot to say about THAT accusation
As for the CoH and DoW comparison? As a matter of fact, DoW1 was far closer to CoH than DoW2 is.
anyone who claims that dawn of war 2 is great, never played or loved first one.. man i was so happy when they announced second one, i was like, better graphics, better optimization, fixed path finding and units getting stuck when ur at unit limit.. = epic win
How in the world? Oh I'm sure Leo would have a lot to say about THAT accusation
As for the CoH and DoW comparison? As a matter of fact, DoW1 was far closer to CoH than DoW2 is.
man dow1 was epic, everything about it apart few balancing issues and that annoying unit freezing in place instead of moving when playing big map with many players , due too many units on the map, and dow2 is i dunno. crap? its like glorified rock scissor paper, same units different skin, one unit counters another, third counter fourth and so on.. hated it
I don't want to get bitched at, but it seems to be happening anyway .. so I figured "Fine, at least have a REASON to bitch at me rather than just being all butthurt because I don't consider 18 months dev-time worth waiting for the second part of the ripped game"
I'm sure you put those points across a good while ago. But you're like my sister: you get easily entangled in a prolonged cycle of bitching and counter-bitching, so that ultimately overshadows any claims that you actually liked the game in the first place. And you end up just looking like a troll. Just take a chill pill. Let it go, man. Move on to the next game.
Of course DoW1 was epic! I loved them both and I think the only reason I've leaned more towards DoW2 is the progression aspect and the deeper concentration on a handful of units rather than a battalion As for RPS style gameplay? I'm afraid to say mate, but that's the CORNERSTONE of every RTS They are, at their very core, designed around rock-paper-scissors mentality.
So ANYWAY -- like I said; I enjoyed the game. Less than everyone else, obviously, but it was fun. I want the continuation of the story. I dislike the 18 month wait. That's it. Nothing more to do or say so I'll keep out of your hair
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So it took 7 years to make Wings of Liberty and will only take 18 months to make Heart of the Swarm? Ok... 
My bitching, as you so eloquently put it, is always with reason. I don't hate anything for the sake of hating and I bitch because I care *wide smile with a teeth sparkle*
As for RPS style gameplay? I'm afraid to say mate, but that's the CORNERSTONE of every RTS 
They are, at their very core, designed around rock-paper-scissors mentality.
