| Page 1 of 2 |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Frant
King's Bounty
Posts: 24625
Location: Your Mom
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
chiv
Posts: 27530
Location: Behind You...
|
 Posted: Wed, 13th Oct 2010 13:18 Post subject: |
|
|
if the weight of the birds adds up to the total weight of the plane, and a bird shits on the planes floor, whats the name of the pilot? 
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Nalo
nothing
Posts: 13515
|
| Posted: Wed, 13th Oct 2010 13:24 Post subject: |
|
|
Last edited by Nalo on Wed, 3rd Jul 2024 07:01; edited 2 times in total
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
chiv
Posts: 27530
Location: Behind You...
|
| Posted: Wed, 13th Oct 2010 13:47 Post subject: |
|
|
| Nalo wrote: | | How high is the plane? |
duuude... i feel like im flyyyingg... |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Wed, 13th Oct 2010 13:56 Post subject: |
|
|
the question itself is really poorly written out...
An answer btw could be as the weight increases, the pilot just dumps fuel to compensate the change, climbs to a higher altitude to compensate the time loss of planes efficiency due to weight change and carries on its journey..
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
helvete
Posts: 2727
Location: Sweden
|
| Posted: Wed, 13th Oct 2010 15:23 Post subject: |
|
|
but is it a bird? Maybe it's another, smaller plane. Maybe it's superman! And if it is, and he takes a shit, it will shoot down through the floor of the plane causing violent decompression.
If, however, it is a boring old bird Frant is correct.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Wed, 13th Oct 2010 19:06 Post subject: |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Wed, 13th Oct 2010 19:12 Post subject: |
|
|
Why is there no snakes? And where is Samuel L. Jackson?
Ryzen 5 5600, ASUS ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING WIFI II, Corsair Vengeance RGB RT 32GB 3600MHz C16, MSI RTX 5070 Ti Ventus 3X OC , Corsair RMx Series RM750x. AOC AGON AG324UX - 4K 144Hz 1ms
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Wed, 13th Oct 2010 19:29 Post subject: |
|
|
The amount you are referring to is negligible when compared to weight of an airplane...
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Invasor
Moderator
Posts: 7638
Location: On the road
|
| Posted: Wed, 13th Oct 2010 20:55 Post subject: |
|
|
How high is Samuel L. Jackson? Is he the pilot? Or is it a snake? Poor shitting birds.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
chiv
Posts: 27530
Location: Behind You...
|
| Posted: Wed, 13th Oct 2010 21:09 Post subject: |
|
|
THERE ARE NO GOD DAMN SNAKES ON THE PLANE BECAUSE THEYD EAT ALL THE BIRDS AND RUIN THE EXPERIMENT! use your heads ffs!
...unless... sabotage?! SOMEONE SNUCK THE SNAKES ON BOARD TO STOP US FROM DISCOVERING THE ANSWER!!! thats just fucking diabolical...
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Invasor
Moderator
Posts: 7638
Location: On the road
|
| Posted: Wed, 13th Oct 2010 21:22 Post subject: |
|
|
I knew it was the Devil's work.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Epsilon
Dr. Strangelove
Posts: 9240
Location: War Room
|
| Posted: Wed, 13th Oct 2010 22:39 Post subject: |
|
|
no matter what the bird does when it's in the plane the weight will stay the same.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Invasor
Moderator
Posts: 7638
Location: On the road
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Thu, 14th Oct 2010 10:47 Post subject: |
|
|
| Epsilon wrote: | | no matter what the bird does when it's in the plane the weight will stay the same. |
does not eating masses of food increase body weight? if so what if the plane was fully stocked and the birds were really that hungry 
im guessing the fatty cell build up WOULD increase the weight factor..Depending of course if the food types were lighter in weight to what mass the bird would put on as a whole. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
helvete
Posts: 2727
Location: Sweden
|
| Posted: Thu, 14th Oct 2010 10:54 Post subject: |
|
|
Actually moose you're right, in that all that flapping around by the bird would convert mass into energy, thus decreasing the total mass of the plane+bird. If the bird eats or not while on the plane wouldn't affect the total mass directly, but he could keep flapping, thus converting more mass into energy.
Also some of that energy would be in the form of heat, which would decrease the weight of the plane, but not the mass.
REPOST
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
doobzilla
Posts: 1099
Location: Team America's Mount Rushmore Base. Stolen from Indians.
|
| Posted: Thu, 14th Oct 2010 20:36 Post subject: |
|
|
| Nalo wrote: | | How high is the plane? |
How high are you?!?
I remember a Stephen Wright bit about traveling on a train that is moving at the speed of light and you walk forward. Does that mean that you have just traveled at faster than the speed of light? And yes, it does mean that.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Nalo
nothing
Posts: 13515
|
| Posted: Thu, 14th Oct 2010 21:02 Post subject: |
|
|
Last edited by Nalo on Wed, 3rd Jul 2024 07:01; edited 2 times in total
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Frant
King's Bounty
Posts: 24625
Location: Your Mom
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2010 11:49 Post subject: |
|
|
Another riddle: Whats faster or a rabbit?
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2010 13:08 Post subject: |
|
|
riddle, if you jump why you are not going in another place or another continent?
another : why the bird that flies inside the plane doesnot hit the tail of the plane?
does it fly faster?
according to ainstein when you are in any vehicle you have the speed of the vehicle
space of the vehicle etc
but when you are fly in a vehicle, earth or train or plane do you have the same speed? and why?
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
helvete
Posts: 2727
Location: Sweden
|
| Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2010 14:42 Post subject: |
|
|
The plane's engine accelerates it with a certain force. However, the faster it goes the stronger the opposing force from friction, here as air resistance, gets. You stop accelerating to settle at a certain speed when these forces are equal.
Inside the plane you will have been accelerated to the same speed as it. But so has the air inside the plane. When you take flight inside the plane you have nothing accelerating you (exept the magical underpants keeping you airborn), but no air resistance to decelerate you either, so you keep going at the same speed as the plane.
REPOST
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Rinze
Site Admin
Posts: 2343
|
| Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2010 19:20 Post subject: |
|
|
Birds use lift to fly, they do not fly by pressing downwards on the air, so the pressure of a bird flying is not directed downward. Also the pressure of a gas in a container is perpendicular to the enclosing surfaces (i.e. not just bottom, but also to the top and sides), which is another reason why birds flying in an aircraft do not exert a downward pressure.
A testable experiment could consist of a balloon filled with a weight and helium, with the weight when attached to the top of the inside of the balloon causing the balloon not the fly, then letting the weight fall inside the balloon and see if the balloon goes up while the weight is falling.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2010 19:43 Post subject: |
|
|
It's like asking if you are in a moving bus and you jump why don't you go to the back of the bus.
Answer: Because you're in a non inertial frame of reference (accelerating one) and you feel inertial pseudo forces (while braking you go forward and when starting to move you go backwards). You are a part of that frame, and cannot be excluded from it.
The same applies to the bird in an airplane...
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Frant
King's Bounty
Posts: 24625
Location: Your Mom
|
| Posted: Sat, 16th Oct 2010 08:25 Post subject: |
|
|
| Rinze wrote: | Birds use lift to fly, they do not fly by pressing downwards on the air, so the pressure of a bird flying is not directed downward. Also the pressure of a gas in a container is perpendicular to the enclosing surfaces (i.e. not just bottom, but also to the top and sides), which is another reason why birds flying in an aircraft do not exert a downward pressure.
A testable experiment could consist of a balloon filled with a weight and helium, with the weight when attached to the top of the inside of the balloon causing the balloon not the fly, then letting the weight fall inside the balloon and see if the balloon goes up while the weight is falling. |
Birds can't take advantage of lift if they're not moving forward. Lift is created when moving air creates sub-pressure on top of the wing. This does not happen to a stationary bird inside a plane since the air is moving in the same direction as the bird (that's why planes stationary on the ground doesn't just take off (unless they're harriers)) . Thus, to stay in mid-air inside the plane the bird literally has to push air downwards to stay in the mid-air. However, if it's even possible for a bird to displace enough air to stay airborne inside a plane, that's another question and one that I'm not certain about.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
"The sky was the color of a TV tuned to a dead station" - Neuromancer
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sun, 17th Oct 2010 21:26 Post subject: |
|
|
No... Non inertial is the one that is accelerating, if you are in inertial frame of reference you have no way of telling if you are moving away (you feel no force). Have you ever tried jumping in speeding bus?
I agree you change your place relative to the object outside the bus, but inside the bus you'd remain in the same space (those frictional forces are really negligible)...
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
| Page 1 of 2 |
All times are GMT + 1 Hour |
