Fallout: New Vegas
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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 18:54    Post subject:
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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 18:59    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:

@m3th0d

The game is "playable" for me too, without the DLL, it's just the performance is too low for me to consider "fine", as you can tell in the screenies I shot. FO3, with max settings, never had this kind of perf-hit -- though it did stutter a lot at first -- so, IMO, it's something to do with the game that is causing the low perf.


Yep, my performance problem is just, like I said, with the NPCs when I look at them. So, for me, it has something to do with game and it's NPCs and not with some driver or something else. Obsidian/Beth better get their shit straight instead of shoving the problem to NVidia/ATI to be able to continue cruisin on the "Lazy Highway".

I don't have "this" problem with Fallout3. So it has to be NeVe (for me!).

Hopefuly they won't wait with any further patches until they got their first DLC ready...


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 19:00    Post subject:
m3th0d2008 wrote:

Yep, my performance problem is just, like I said, with the NPCs when I look at them. So, for me, it has something to do with game and it's NPCs and not with some driver or something else. Obsidian/Beth better get their shit straight instead of shoving the problem to NVidia/ATI to be able to continue cruisin on the "Lazy Highway".

I don't have this problem with Fallout3. So it has to be NeVe (for me!).

Hopefuly they won't wait with any further patches until they got their first DLC ready...


Sounds like the FaceGen thing and the supposed fix is "ToggleEmotions" in the console, but that didn't work for me either. I gained around 2-3fps AT BEST.
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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 19:02    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
m3th0d2008 wrote:

Yep, my performance problem is just, like I said, with the NPCs when I look at them. So, for me, it has something to do with game and it's NPCs and not with some driver or something else. Obsidian/Beth better get their shit straight instead of shoving the problem to NVidia/ATI to be able to continue cruisin on the "Lazy Highway".

I don't have this problem with Fallout3. So it has to be NeVe (for me!).

Hopefuly they won't wait with any further patches until they got their first DLC ready...


Sounds like the FaceGen thing and the supposed fix is "ToggleEmotions" in the console, but that didn't work for me either. I gained around 2-3fps AT BEST.


Yep, same here. Doesn't really do shit. And lowering the graphics and resolution doesn't do shit either.


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Smokeythedemon




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 19:03    Post subject:
lolozaur wrote:
http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/GPU86AMDCat1010cHotfix.aspx

saya about vegas


"File not found."
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maul_inc




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 19:05    Post subject:
I'll tell you this much...FO3 and FO: NV must be the most troublesome games that I have ever encountered. With most games, I can adjust the level of details to be suitable for my pc. But with the Gamebryo engine, performance seems to be quite unpredictable, which I guess has something to do with the steaming system, since most games doesn't have such a system, except for WOW and Stalker (yeah, there are probably more titles).

Not trying to flame, I'm just happy that I never spent my money on these games. Smile


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trucane




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 19:59    Post subject:
Gotta say i don't like how fucking strong the deathclaws are. I can kill them fine on my own by crippling their legs and then just kiting them around but playing on hardcore it's impossible to have my companions with me. Rex gets totally raped in a few seconds and Raul despite his power armor doesn't survive much longer. Then again I die in 3-4 hits despite having 10 endurance and fully repaired enclave armor.

I mean did they even play trough the game on very hard / hardcore with companions?

Oh and does anyone else just feel a huge urge reinstalling fallout 2 while playing vegas?
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mike-




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 20:01    Post subject:
if you start a fight with a deathclaw by using a sneak crit youre chances of killing it are a lot higher. at level 14 with a silenced sniper rifle i can drop most before they get to me, course when they do you gotta start shootin quicker cause they do hurt
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 20:02    Post subject:
trucane wrote:
Oh and does anyone else just feel a huge urge reinstalling fallout 2 while playing vegas?

Yes Smile

And regarding the deathclaws. I'm playing on hard and hardcore and think it's alright that they are so strong. Most other enemies already feel too weak.
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CookieCrumb




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 20:02    Post subject:
How does an anti material rifle fare against Deathclaws?
I think I heard a gun runner guard say something along the lines of "have you ever seen what one of those anti material rifles does to a deathclaw?"

I think I'm gonna cheat myself one and have a look Very Happy


sabin1981 wrote:
Now you're just arguing semantics. Getting fucked in the ass with a broom stale is an "improvement" over getting stabbed in the eye with a fork Rolling Eyes
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trucane




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 20:05    Post subject:
The problem is that the companions are so fucking stupid and just rushes to their deaths and considering how much damage deathclaws deal it's almost impossible to save them. I easily managed to get to the enclave armor without my companions despite having to fight 6 deathclaws at the same time but fighting 2 deathclaws with my companions leads to the death of at least one of them...
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 20:06    Post subject:
Reklis wrote:
How does an anti material rifle fare against Deathclaws?
I think I heard a gun runner guard say something along the lines of "have you ever seen what one of those anti material rifles does to a deathclaw?"

I think I'm gonna cheat myself one and have a look Very Happy

Having owned a Barrett M82A1 in the past, I was eagerly wanting to see that rifle in action (I want to in any game really) so I gave myself one and checked it out and ran into some DC's at the quarry.

Needless to say, it tears em a new one.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 20:06    Post subject:
@Trucane

I strongly recommend JBs earlier link for Companions Are Essential. Suuuuuuuuure it could be labeled a cheatie thing to do, but then... I justify that with one sentence; "The companion AI is fucking SHIT" Very Happy
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sh0wst0pp3r




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 20:07    Post subject:
AMR pretty much one-shots anyone with a sneak headshot and AP rounds, provided you meet 100 guns skill and 8 str reqs. But not lots of .50 AP lying around Sad
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Surray




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 20:12    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
m3th0d2008 wrote:

Yep, my performance problem is just, like I said, with the NPCs when I look at them. So, for me, it has something to do with game and it's NPCs and not with some driver or something else. Obsidian/Beth better get their shit straight instead of shoving the problem to NVidia/ATI to be able to continue cruisin on the "Lazy Highway".

I don't have this problem with Fallout3. So it has to be NeVe (for me!).

Hopefuly they won't wait with any further patches until they got their first DLC ready...


Sounds like the FaceGen thing and the supposed fix is "ToggleEmotions" in the console, but that didn't work for me either. I gained around 2-3fps AT BEST.



I threw in some different d3d9.dll from a fix and it solved all my fps issues.
It used to be like..borderline unplayable in some areas with more than a handful of characters around and now it's silky smooth at all times.

try some of this stuff http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=34778


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 20:15    Post subject:
..... dude... you're kidding right? Look back over the last few pages and you'll find that I am the friggin' POSTER CHILD, the absolute ADVOCATE, of the D3D9.dll fix Laughing I've been fighting with others over it Very Happy This fix RAWKS. From 24-35fps up to 57-60fps constant, Ultra visuals, 2xAA/15xAF/1680x1050.

(I'm using the ATi version, by the way <3)
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Surray




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 20:32    Post subject:
lol sorry, wasn't following the thread too much, the quoted post there just made it seem like you ran out of options with no solutions.

d3d9.dll ftw


god it was so awful to fight cazadores with 5 fps....needless to say I died horribly, many times, until d3d9.dll saved me.
and the strip was literally a slideshow.


btw: page 100 incoming!


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xDBS




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 20:39    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
..... dude... you're kidding right? Look back over the last few pages and you'll find that I am the friggin' POSTER CHILD, the absolute ADVOCATE, of the D3D9.dll fix Laughing I've been fighting with others over it Very Happy This fix RAWKS. From 24-35fps up to 57-60fps constant, Ultra visuals, 2xAA/15xAF/1680x1050.

(I'm using the ATi version, by the way <3)


Yes, during the first fights with the bandits I only had 5fps till you posted the .dll fix

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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 20:46    Post subject:
Again, I can't/won't take credit. I didn't FIND it.. I just helped confirm that yes; it is digitally sexy Very Happy Ever since then I've been helping prove that it IS worth having, if you're suffering from perf issues.

anyway Wink

-edit-

Here is the dude that deserves all our gratitude, since he found it on another site initially and brought it here;

Bad_MF wrote:
People with Win7x64 performance problems should try this:
http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1123465-fix-found-for-windows-7-and-windows-vista/

Worked perfectly for me.
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 21:10    Post subject:
http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35584

A interesting Securitron appearance changer, will probably lead to further possible extensions.
(Having just gotten to the part where they can look different it seems easy to alter must be some basic texture and alpha channel for transparency over the screen stuff.)
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Smokeythedemon




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 21:13    Post subject:
As some comments on that site have said..

TROLLFACE FOR YESMAN WOULD BE FUCKING AMAZING.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 21:14    Post subject:
LMAO!!! Nice find JB and awesome idea Smokey Very Happy
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cultor




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 21:29    Post subject:
I am doing the wheel of fortune quest and gotten the radiation suit package, brought it back. Now hose 3 guys put them on and tell me to lead the way, but I don't have any suit. Is this normal? I have a space suit but it doesn't give me any resistance as I still get 1 rad/sec
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 21:32    Post subject:
Smokeythedemon wrote:
lolozaur wrote:
http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/GPU86AMDCat1010cHotfix.aspx

saya about vegas


"File not found."


this, I can't find an alternate download source either


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Smokeythedemon




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 21:45    Post subject:
cultor wrote:
I am doing the wheel of fortune quest and gotten the radiation suit package, brought it back. Now hose 3 guys put them on and tell me to lead the way, but I don't have any suit. Is this normal? I have a space suit but it doesn't give me any resistance as I still get 1 rad/sec


You just have to truck on through the rad, man.
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 21:51    Post subject:
cultor wrote:
I am doing the wheel of fortune quest and gotten the radiation suit package, brought it back. Now hose 3 guys put them on and tell me to lead the way, but I don't have any suit. Is this normal? I have a space suit but it doesn't give me any resistance as I still get 1 rad/sec


It gives 40% rad resistance, not 40 rads.
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kouga




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 21:55    Post subject:
cultor wrote:
I am doing the wheel of fortune quest and gotten the radiation suit package, brought it back. Now hose 3 guys put them on and tell me to lead the way, but I don't have any suit. Is this normal? I have a space suit but it doesn't give me any resistance as I still get 1 rad/sec


When you go to an area that gives you +2 or more rad/sec, you put on the space suit and the rad will go down by half. It is working, it's just that +1 is the minimum rad you get even if you have rad resistance AFAIK.
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ShadowB




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 22:16    Post subject:
Damn them quest glitches. The Contreras unmarked quest can't be completed with the optimal outcome, and now I hit a couple of bugs doing the last section of the quest before the NCR endgame point of no return.

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cultor wrote:
I am doing the wheel of fortune quest and gotten the radiation suit package, brought it back. Now hose 3 guys put them on and tell me to lead the way, but I don't have any suit. Is this normal? I have a space suit but it doesn't give me any resistance as I still get 1 rad/sec

You'll never be completely immune to radiation. I guess, unless you take special perks.

The Advanced Radiation Suit (and the Space Suit) gives you +40% rad resistance, and Rad-X gives +35%. I had a natural 6% resistance (might be related to Endurance, who knows), so that's a total of 81%, which means +1 rad areas could give you 0.19 rads per second.


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CookieCrumb




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 22:17    Post subject:
Is there any way to reset my reputation with a faction?
I know the setreputation console command but even if I set myself to idolized the powder gangers still attack me :/
Or is there a legitimate in game way to get them to like me so they'll at least talk to me?


sabin1981 wrote:
Now you're just arguing semantics. Getting fucked in the ass with a broom stale is an "improvement" over getting stabbed in the eye with a fork Rolling Eyes
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ShadowB




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 22:20    Post subject:
That's buggy as hell, too.

I was Vilified with Caesar's Legion and the Great Khans and they still wouldn't attack me on sight. In the Legion's case, they only did if Boone was with me.
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