[XBOX360] Banwave 2010
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BOOMDOOM




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 02:23    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
BOOMDOOM wrote:

If you get sec data is clean you are good.

if you get Failed AP25 Challenge you are fucked.


I'm sorry, but how is failing AP25 any indication that you're banned? You might as well say "if you flash iXtreme you're banned" - even though, regardless of flags, you might NEVER get banned. MS don't instantly ban every single person with a flashed box :\ As far as I was aware, AP25 (Anti Piracy 2.5) is a PROTECTION system built into certain, and apparently now recent, games. Saying that you're banned for failing that protection would be the same as saying you would be banned from online functionalities for failing a StarForce check...


I don't know man... I did not code this program.

Just try it with your banned console and non banned console... I also did it with a console that tried running fable 3 on the new dashboard and it did fail.
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GuerrillaM6




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 10:34    Post subject:
Sorry for the noob question, and the slight off-topicness Wink but if i dont care if I'm banned, is there a way to patch the ap25 games to run normally? or any other way to run them?
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tolanri




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 10:39    Post subject:
Guerrilla060185 wrote:
Sorry for the noob question, and the slight off-topicness Wink but if i dont care if I'm banned, is there a way to patch the ap25 games to run normally? or any other way to run them?


This. As long as there is no forced update I won't be upgrading to new dashboard. I hope there will be other solution besides new flash, I don't give a fuck if I'm banned, so any means necessary is better than having my drive re-flashed.
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The_Leaf




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 10:52    Post subject:
Guerrilla060185 wrote:
Sorry for the noob question, and the slight off-topicness Wink but if i dont care if I'm banned, is there a way to patch the ap25 games to run normally? or any other way to run them?


Only if you've JTAG. If you don't, you can't execute unsigned code, and "hacking" the game executable to remove the checks would break the digital signature.
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GuerrillaM6




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 11:18    Post subject:
So unless I have a sammy drive(which doesn't check for ap25 if i got c4e right), new games wont work until LT+ hits which will probably take forever, right?
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deelix
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 11:22    Post subject:
Guerrilla060185 wrote:
So unless I have a sammy drive(which doesn't check for ap25 if i got c4e right), new games wont work until LT+ hits which will probably take forever, right?
exactly, except some hitatchi drives (he didnt mention benQ :/ ) Damn, c4va can be a little unspessific
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GuerrillaM6




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 11:24    Post subject:
good for me that i still have my old sammy box then Wink i have the possibility to switch my old one against a new one with hdmi port but i guess ill have to stay on yuv then Wink
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 12:59    Post subject:
Guerrilla060185 wrote:
Sorry for the noob question, and the slight off-topicness Wink but if i dont care if I'm banned, is there a way to patch the ap25 games to run normally? or any other way to run them?


You don't need to do anything specific to AP25 games UNLESS you updated to the very latest dashboard, which came out on the 1st of November. If you have updated, then there's nothing you can do for now.
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GuerrillaM6




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 13:31    Post subject:
Yeah but my question was concerning new games, and those will all have the update on disc
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 13:35    Post subject:
Ah. Well nobody knows yet :\
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WaldoJ
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 14:17    Post subject:
did you survive?


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I win, you lose. Or Go fuck yourself.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 14:20    Post subject:
I've not updated to the latest dashboard yet because I'm still playing Fable 3 and I have a LiteOn drive, so I'm not sure. I do get the update prompt when I first turn my machine on.. but I deny it.
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WaldoJ
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 14:23    Post subject:
heh... in due time you'll wake up to the new dashboard and still be unbanned Surprised ms has their ways to make your xbox update by itself. i know sony can.


Sin317 wrote:
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 14:24    Post subject:
I didn't know about MS having the ability, but yeah; both Sony and Nintendo have got the option to force update machines (Nintendo had it since SysMenu 4.1) but they've not actually done it to anyone yet. I'll be surprised if I'm still unbanned (four years in a row? AWESOME) but I doubt I will be.
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killabyte




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 14:42    Post subject:
i've survived the last 2 with my samsung box and i've actually done some stupid shit here and there. this last year i played 3 or 4 things i shouldn't have, online, that weren't patched properly.

i pulled my tag off my jtag box and was going to upload it to live monday night from my main box and i noticed it was pushing some update on me. i declined. i'll wait and see how things look. i don't know if the rumors are true about that new dash but i figure a wait and see approach will be ok.

doesn't really matter since the box is red ringing anyway and i have that jtag machine. if it doesn't get banned tho i may finally succumb to all that MW2 online shit i keep hearing so much about.
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deelix
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 17:43    Post subject:
The wave havent started yet, im on the new dashboard as well.
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D_Kelso




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 19:19    Post subject:
I think they will flip the switch in the next few hours. What better way to boost system sales numbers alongside the launch of kinect yo.


I eat, sleep, shit gaming, yo!
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deelix
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 19:45    Post subject:
yeah Sad Thats why I play Arcade games with hacked profile like crazy now.
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Divvy




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 19:54    Post subject:
What, exactly, do you lose when your 360 is banned? Marketplace, achievements and online playing?
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 19:56    Post subject:
If only..

A ban also corrupts the gamerprofiles and saves on your harddrive, so they don't work on any other machine than the banned one. This is to prevent you from getting another cheap unit after the ban and just move the harddrive.

You also lose the feature to install games to the harddrive.


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zilliver69




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 20:00    Post subject:
_SiN_ wrote:
If only..

A ban also corrupts the gamerprofiles and saves on your harddrive, so they don't work on any other machine than the banned one. This is to prevent you from getting another cheap unit after the ban and just move the harddrive.

You also lose the feature to install games to the harddrive.


You dont lose feature to install games to the harddrive......it was fixed the update of fall ´09.

E: Play with non-flashed console and account on live....and use your banned console for backup games...I dont have the need with the HDD to run between consoles- why shoud anyone!?


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_SiN_
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 20:02    Post subject:
Oh, never saw that Smile Anyway, the worst thing for me is the fucking corrupting of profiles/saves.. fuck M$ for that!


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 20:03    Post subject:
Apparently you can uncorrupt your profile now as well Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 20:04    Post subject:
I read something about that when the procedure of uncorrupting them was brand new - and it seemed like a big pain in the ass.. how is it nowadays? Somewhat easy?


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 20:07    Post subject:
I'm not sure on the steps, it's been a while since I heard about it. Probably is still a mega PITA.. but at least it seems doable Very Happy
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grapper




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 20:17    Post subject:
Divvy wrote:
What, exactly, do you lose when your 360 is banned? Marketplace, achievements and online playing?

Did he died?
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deelix
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 20:35    Post subject:
Divvy wrote:
What, exactly, do you lose when your 360 is banned? Marketplace, achievements and online playing?
what you mentioned except achievements. They are stored on the profile, you can then connect whatever you have stored your profile on to a unbanned 360.

_SiN_ wrote:


A ban also corrupts the gamerprofiles and saves on your harddrive, so they don't work on any other machine than the banned one. This is to prevent you from getting another cheap unit after the ban and just move the harddrive.

You also lose the feature to install games to the harddrive.
It doesn't always happen. And was actually not MS intention. They even gave advise how to retrive the profile and saves.
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_SiN_
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 20:37    Post subject:
Really? Any info on that?

If it *actually* wasn't their intention, then it shouldn't happen this time around then?


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 20:39    Post subject:
Un-corrupting profile and saves isn't hard at all if you can hook your hdd to your PC.

Basic steps:
- Hook HDD to PC.
- Use program to browse HDD structure.
- Extract your profile file.
- Run small program to correct corruption bits.
- Run another program to re-sign profile file.
- Put profile file back on HDD through the HDD browsing program from step 2.
- Done. Smile


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 20:42    Post subject:
With a JTAG 360, you can browse the HDD via FTP, right? If so, it's super-easy Very Happy


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