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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Mar 2005 04:58    Post subject:
This game looks really really good on xbox..they are using every bit of power xbox has ..to run this ...though SplinterCell Chaos Theory still looks a bit better...i just dont know how they made SCCT look so damn good on 4 year old xbox hardware....must make some pc yuppies quite pissed off after spending 5-6 bills for a videocard when there are only maybe 3 games in total that require a top of the line videocard ...there are probally only 3 games in totally on the pc that impress me visually...hf2,doom3,farcry..nothing else lol


To all the dumb schmucks that say Doom3 on xbox looks terrible..are either a pc fan boy or blind as ray charles, that or just have no life and want to stirr up trouble on a message board lol. hehe

I have a athlon64@2.6ghz,1gb 3200 corsair ram,aiw ati 9800pro,21viewsonic g220fb monitor and believe me..i played farcry,doom3,hf2,etc on the pc at full settings or very close to it and Doom3 on xbox looks pretty damn good compared to doom3 pc....thats SAYING ALOT about xbox hardware and how it was built.

Conosles are just better gaming platforms..how many AAA quality action games came out on the pc in 04 compared to consoles? its not even close....

peace out
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GP Force




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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Mar 2005 18:23    Post subject:
Great post TGD Smile
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xAiTheHitman




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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Mar 2005 19:59    Post subject:
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This game looks really really good on xbox..they are using every bit of power xbox has ..to run this ...though SplinterCell Chaos Theory still looks a bit better...i just dont know how they made SCCT look so damn good on 4 year old xbox hardware....must make some pc yuppies quite pissed off after spending 5-6 bills for a videocard when there are only maybe 3 games in total that require a top of the line videocard ...there are probally only 3 games in totally on the pc that impress me visually...hf2,doom3,farcry..nothing else lol


Umm... how do you figure only THOSE 3 games look good on the PC? Thats a bit of bullshit, but hey its your opinion. Farcry wasnt that impressive... it was the water particles and water itself. More than 3 require a top of the line card.

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To all the dumb schmucks that say Doom3 on xbox looks terrible..are either a pc fan boy or blind as ray charles, that or just have no life and want to stirr up trouble on a message board lol. hehe


Hey, thats a bit dumb... considering Ray Charles could do things he couldnt see. You however cant comprehend a sentance Laughing And you can ask Pal, I'm one of the only ones on here who isnt a fan boy. It takes a fanboy to constantly stick up for the XBox, especially when it comes to a graphically intense game as Doom 3. Most of my posts are IN the Console forums. Seeing as thats true, how would that make me a PC Fanboy? I'm just stating the obvious. This was talked about since a bit after Doom 3 was released. In fact, when the first screens and video caps of the XBox vers (in its final state) were released, people in the XBox forum where bitching. Yet everyone now is praising it, if thats not fanboyism, I dont know what is. Considering the XBox is a computer and has been out for awhile now, its not capable of the video card power a PC is. They did tone it down... and in my opinion it just doesnt look as good as it does for the PC.

Hey flame all you want... doesnt matter how many people come in here. The truths the truth. Than why would SC look better than Doom 3? You said it yourself... they were "pushing the power of the XBox to its fullest extent".

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I have a athlon64@2.6ghz,1gb 3200 corsair ram,aiw ati 9800pro,21viewsonic g220fb monitor and believe me..i played farcry,doom3,hf2,etc on the pc at full settings or very close to it and Doom3 on xbox looks pretty damn good compared to doom3 pc....thats SAYING ALOT about xbox hardware and how it was built.


What does farcry,doom3, and hl2 have to do with Doom 3? Umm... FarCry doesnt look as good as Doom 3. So a toned down Doom 3 for the XBox which uses a XChip "built" by NVidia beats the latest hardware that was even used last year? Thats when this game was released for the PC. I'm not ratting on it either, I just think its a shitty port. I also thought the Counter Strike game for XBox was crappy to. When I think somethings terrible I tell about it. I like XBox games as much as the next person, but how about using your head? All your trying to do is make me come on the defense here.

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Conosles are just better gaming platforms..how many AAA quality action games came out on the pc in 04 compared to consoles? its not even close....


Oh look, now thats a real fanboy. Before you get flamed at by the REAL members here who know what their talking about... let me tell you how to word your sentence.

"I think Consoles are better gaming systems"

Oh yea? And how many quality RPGs come out on the XBox? None. Pure fanboyism. Wow, this kid actually has the guts to talk about genres. See you say that above statement like as if its a fact... that is fanboyism. Me saying the PC version looks better graphically isnt. Its not only a fact, but its the truth.

Yay, I just got done defending the XBox in the SC III thread... you really know what your talking about?
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mcmanic




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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Mar 2005 22:19    Post subject:
well after playing this on xbox a little more, i actually prefer the xbox version, and my pc was upto the task as in sig, afterall nice graphics don't always make a game so the drop on this to suit the xbox hasn't stopped my enjoyment of the game plus i get to play on 32" widescreen tv in 480i mode and lounge on the sofa.

and consoles are better gaming systems because they are a fixed platform for devolpers to get the most out of and aimed at armchair mainstream gamers.
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Nailbiter
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Mar 2005 23:08    Post subject:
agree with mcmanic.

nothing beats the sofa.

on the other hand, if you are a real compu geek you have your computer by the sofa, so... Wink
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Weedo




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005 00:06    Post subject:
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Oh yea? And how many quality RPGs come out on the XBox? None.


lol where do you live?? There are many good RPGs for Xbox. Approximately ~15. Educate yourself before you write such nonsense. Rolling Eyes
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chutneylad




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005 01:34    Post subject:
Weedo wrote:
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Oh yea? And how many quality RPGs come out on the XBox? None.


lol where do you live?? There are many good RPGs for Xbox. Approximately ~15. Educate yourself before you write such nonsense. Rolling Eyes


Just reading the rest of this guys post is tragic.
Never mind 'Where does he live', How old is this guy ?
5 ?


Good business is where you find it !
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SaQ




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005 01:44    Post subject:
Normally I do not play FPS on the xbox console, cos I hate the controls. However i got this mostly for the co-op mode. after testing the single player i was impressed with it, it runs better on the xbox than on MY pc. Good game, i am gonna enjoy this one, me thinks. Nice release to say the most recent releases have sucked or being below par.
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vile




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005 10:02    Post subject:
is it retail or preview? all levels in co-op are open and extra ud n doom2 too.

i'm with rest on this game owning on xbox and it plays better on it than my tin can p4 2.4gh n g4 4600.
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xAiTheHitman




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005 13:43    Post subject:
Weedo wrote:
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Oh yea? And how many quality RPGs come out on the XBox? None.


lol where do you live?? There are many good RPGs for Xbox. Approximately ~15. Educate yourself before you write such nonsense. Rolling Eyes


Uhh... lets count how many XBox rpgs than:

Fable
KoToR 1 and 2
Arx Fatalis
The Bards Tale
Baldurs Gate
Dungeons and Dragons Heros
Morrowind
Jade Empire
Phantasy Star Online

Empires not even out yet and other than those games, the rest are all platformers. Dungeons and Dragons Heros, Arx Fatalis, werent exactly ground breaking games. Its just the truth. What started as an opinion of a terrible port to the XBox (IMO), comes a defense to the XBox fanboys Rolling Eyes
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Saner




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005 14:03    Post subject:
Looks good to me, and plays better (gameplay wise) then the PC version.. the pace is a lot faster Smile

I liked the Pc version, But I really enjoy the xbox one.


ragnarus wrote:

I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ?Smile

Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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StarShine




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005 15:41    Post subject:
xAiTheHitman wrote:
Uhh... lets count how many XBox rpgs than:

Fable
KoToR 1 and 2
Arx Fatalis
The Bards Tale
Baldurs Gate
Dungeons and Dragons Heros
Morrowind
Jade Empire
Phantasy Star Online

Empires not even out yet and other than those games, the rest are all platformers. Dungeons and Dragons Heros, Arx Fatalis, werent exactly ground breaking games. Its just the truth. What started as an opinion of a terrible port to the XBox (IMO), comes a defense to the XBox fanboys Rolling Eyes


I fullly agree, got my Xboxes, love them, have the majority of the RPG's on the list and wouldn't get into the Console Vs PC debate but there seriously aren't that many good "true RPG's" on the Xbox. xAiTheHitman is being generous even putting some of those games on the list.

Its sad though to see a thread on Doom 3 develop into an argument over RPG's and PC Vs Console as there are alot of cross platform gamers on any board. Smile
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mcmanic




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005 17:38    Post subject:
Not being fanboyism but what you said xAiTheHitman that quote "a terrible port to the XBox (IMO),

just isn't true?

why do you come to this conclusion, please tell, because remember we are talking about a game that actually plays just as good if not better than a pc with the same spec when you take into the actual xbox specs, so how can it be any worse port wise.

I admit its never gonna look as nice as a high powered PC, but thats not the point is it?, no-one here has said its better than that, just most have said it runs better than their pc's they currently own.

I thing IMHO they done a cracking job, yes they removed certain things, but this hasn't hindered the game in any way and infact has improved and made it even more action packed.

I don't think any non pc owner whjo hasn't had a chance to play this will say "a terrible port to xbox"

because it isn't!, there is plenty worse that claim to be good and Doom3 on xbox isn't one of them
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005 17:44    Post subject:
I burned with Disc Juggler onto Datawrite Grey 8x DVD-Rs! Can't fault them! Very Happy


May the NFOrce be with you always.
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fishslice




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005 20:19    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
I've seen the screenshots. I'm sorry buddy, but it looks like ass compared to playing it on the PC.


It's not such a great idea saying you've only seen screen shots.

I've got both the PC version running on a 3.2 Gig P4 and ATI PCI Express X800 graphics card, displaying on a 19 inch CRT tube, and on the Xbox.

So apart from lower resolution and natural anti-aliasing through PAL TV the game looks pretty good, and runs at a solid frame rate.

Much more important it plays a lot better. Put it this way they seem to have been busy in the last six months tweeking and really improving the gameplay and level design, and it really shows. Also the Controller feels more natural and tactile compared to using a mouse.

Hat's of to the team that ported this. It's making me play over again!
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lumpyhed




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005 20:26    Post subject:
fishslice wrote:
Also the Controller feels more natural and tactile compared to using a mouse.


Thats the only thing i disagree on. I hope they take note of the DS style controll for FPS. Metroid on that system feels so natural. I have such a hard time aimming with a sticky pushy thumb stick thingy. Sad
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Cimlite




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2005 03:51    Post subject:
Complaining about the graphics? You people obviously missed the entire point of the Xbox version. I have this to say...

Competative One on One Super Turkey Puncher

It's right there in the co-op mode and that alone makes it worthwhile. Razz
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maverick221




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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Apr 2005 14:58    Post subject: Cant get it to work
Have tried now with nero, alcohol and stomp.. Bought different kind of media and tried both winrar and powerarchiever to unpack the iso. Burnt the media in different speed and mode .. Looks fine.. when i started nothing happen.. but the last time i tested ( i tested with a fuji dvd-rw) it starts the game and then it freeze. The xbox was bought last summer and then chipped... Do anyone have any clue how to fix this problem??? Confused Confused i am so exciting to play the game otherwise i would bought it, but iam a poor student...
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mcmanic




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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Apr 2005 15:55    Post subject:
Have you tried dvd-decrypter, its free and does good xbox burns this end
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Apr 2005 16:24    Post subject: Re: Cant get it to work
maverick221 wrote:
Have tried now with nero, alcohol and stomp.. Bought different kind of media and tried both winrar and powerarchiever to unpack the iso. Burnt the media in different speed and mode .. Looks fine.. when i started nothing happen.. but the last time i tested ( i tested with a fuji dvd-rw) it starts the game and then it freeze. The xbox was bought last summer and then chipped... Do anyone have any clue how to fix this problem??? Confused Confused i am so exciting to play the game otherwise i would bought it, but iam a poor student...


try deleting the files in e:\cache but not the folder ,then use the fuji copy
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Saner




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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Apr 2005 16:37    Post subject:
e:\cache

Xbox uses X/Y and Z for Cache

Anyways as he said I would lcear the X/Y and Z partition on the xbox, then i would delete the Doom 3 Save (if its made one)

Then try again with the DVD-RW.

Keep in mind that it could take it longer to load via the DVD-RW, and depending on the quality of your xbox dvd-drive.

Doom 3 caches a hell of a lot on the initial load (and then loads after once cache has gone) and with a RW it could take longer...

Try DVd-Decrypter (as said) I have never had a problem with that,

Or just put it on the hard disk :Y


ragnarus wrote:

I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ?Smile

Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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WeisFu




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 05:03    Post subject: Re: Cant get it to work
I created a couple of "coasters" until I converted the iso thru Qwix. The Qwix optimized iso worked like a charm. This may help those that are still running into problems.
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fozman




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Apr 2005 12:03    Post subject: player profile
everything seems fine after burning but ive got no player profile in the menus and in the game it just says player ? have i missed something.

Is everyone's the same.
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Kommando




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 00:18    Post subject:
Does the Xbox released include Resurection of Evil...just asking since both got the same release date and maybe they didnt want Xbox users to have RoE before the PC users
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xAiTheHitman




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 00:42    Post subject:
No, it doesnt include it. I doubt the expansion pack will be released for it.
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lumpyhed




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 01:04    Post subject:
Kommando wrote:
Does the Xbox released include Resurection of Evil...just asking since both got the same release date and maybe they didnt want Xbox users to have RoE before the PC users


Expect a Doom3:GOTY edition or something. Either that or they'll re-release it in all its full graphical splendor on the X2.
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Weedo




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 01:50    Post subject:
Resurrection of Evil will never be released on Xbox. Tim Willits said it just yesterday.
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Kommando




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 01:56    Post subject:
Thanks for the info's guys...just dumb they didnt include it since the game on Xbox was delayed for 6 months. Hope the MP on Xbox will bring more people online cause its pretty dead on PC....by the way how many people can play together on the MP on Xbox cause if i recall, the PC version was like 4 players when the game was released
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lumpyhed




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 02:24    Post subject:
Weedo wrote:
Resurrection of Evil will never be released on Xbox. Tim Willits said it just yesterday.


There we have it then *bows*
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xAiTheHitman




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 02:37    Post subject:
Wrong, the PC version had like 12 for online play. Theres also a coop mod you can download. The reason why Doom 3 isnt that big MP is because it wasnt people's type. Their more into Battlefield and UT type games. I honestly have to say death match gets boring after awhile, unless its like Ravenshield or the R6 series. Thats always fun. Also, there wasnt much involved on the MP features in Doom 3. I guess it was a turnoff for most people. I loved the single player of Doom 3... and I think if they added coop for the PC version with the game, it would of held its own online for quite awhile. Now that the coop is finally out for the PC (thanks to the Doom 3 modders), its kinda late to get people back to playing it.

Hopefully with the release of Resurection of Evil, people will become interested in it again.
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