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 Posted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 16:18 Post subject: HTC Desire HD.. perhaps? |
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At the end of this month, I'm as of now planning on getting one - anyone here already have one? I've read enough reviews and user comments already to know what is actually needed to know from a hardware/software standpoint - but maybe anyone has run into some weird situations, I mean it's somewhat big, anyone have issues with that?
I was initally going to get a WP7-phone, but it seems that WP7 is more of a iOS-ish clone, which I outright hate. I do NOT want a phone that REQUIRES some bloatware so that I can copy files to it, I just want to plug it in, drag & drop files like an external HDD. Also, it seems that you can't replace the SD-card in WP7-phones, among other limitations and other Apple-esque bullshit.
Android seems very open, flexible and customizable, just the way I like it!
And speaking of Android, I've never used a phone with it - how is Froyo? People seem to like it 
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 16:57 Post subject: |
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My friend has it and it's freaking sweet!
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 17:02 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 17:09 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 22:07 Post subject: |
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Take the Samsung Galaxy S I 9000. It's processor is far superior to the common snapdragon in HTC devices. And with 4.0" the screen is very nice and thanks to AMOLED it's very bright and has a nice contrast
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 22:33 Post subject: |
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| PumpAction wrote: | | Take the Samsung Galaxy S I 9000. It's processor is far superior to the common snapdragon in HTC devices. And with 4.0" the screen is very nice and thanks to AMOLED it's very bright and has a nice contrast |
Believe me, I've done the Desire HD/Galaxy S comparison to death, and I my current phone is a Samsung - and the Desire HD still wins.
The processing power is not better per se on the Galaxy, BUT it does have a dedicated PowerVR gpu, which on its own handles 3D-applications/games better than the Desire. But all in all, they are quite similar in terms of power.
Here's some fun facts though - the Swedish Android-site Swedroid ran some benchmarks on the Desire HD (and a number of other Android-phones), and here are the total result from a number of benchmarks:
The tests involved in the total are:
Input
CPU
Memory
I/O
2D
3D OpenGL ES 1.1
And also, interestingly, the Desire HD came out on top on two other CPU-benchmarks, Sunspider and Linpack.
So safe to say, it's a decent phone in terms of processing power
| sabin1981 wrote: | Yeah... but it'll also be 3x the price of the Desire  |
Actually the Desire HD is more expensive than the Galaxy S Maybe you're thinking of the older Desire, without the "HD" at the end?
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 22:39 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Nov 2010 00:59 Post subject: |
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_SiN_, make sure you visit a nearby store that have phones for display and feel them up.
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Nov 2010 01:47 Post subject: |
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i just got the samsung galaxy s and after dealing with some minor bugs now i love the phone
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Nov 2010 09:14 Post subject: |
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I am thinking of getting the Desire HD, if I manage to get it before you I will post my thoughts here (but I doubt it, its on backorder in the UK with my mobile provider)
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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Nov 2010 09:18 Post subject: |
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bleh, I always urge people to stay away from HTC, their phones are cheap shit, their support for their phones blow dick, and their battery life is horrible, not too mention their shit UI that takes them months of extra time to push an update to their phone, which isn't all that likely cause they'd rather release a new phone than update an older one.
Friend has an HTC, he's throwing it in the garbage for a motorola. Friend just got an HTC with winmobile, she's bringing it back this weekend to get a samsung android.
HTC = fancy looking phone...nothing much else.
To answer your question about FROYO, it's the god damn bees knees of updates. Everything runs amazing, if you run a different home launcher like Launcher Pro, your shit will FLY.
Gingerbread is right around the corner >.<
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Nov 2010 09:30 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | | _SiN_, make sure you visit a nearby store that have phones for display and feel them up. |
I would if I could, no store has them around here though, all sold out.. plus, I live in a pretty small town, so I doubt they're anywhere near the top of the delivery list
| SpykeZ wrote: | bleh, I always urge people to stay away from HTC, their phones are cheap shit, their support for their phones blow dick, and their battery life is horrible, not too mention their shit UI that takes them months of extra time to push an update to their phone, which isn't all that likely cause they'd rather release a new phone than update an older one.
Friend has an HTC, he's throwing it in the garbage for a motorola. Friend just got an HTC with winmobile, she's bringing it back this weekend to get a samsung android.
HTC = fancy looking phone...nothing much else. |
Hm, well from what I've heard and read (a lot actually), HTC used to be so-so quality wise, but that was a somewhat long time ago - the Desire/Desire HD for example has been praised for it's quality and the quality "feel" it has. Aluminium unibody construction = fap.
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Nov 2010 09:33 Post subject: |
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| _SiN_ wrote: | | Frant wrote: | | _SiN_, make sure you visit a nearby store that have phones for display and feel them up. |
I would if I could, no store has them around here though, all sold out.. plus, I live in a pretty small town, so I doubt they're anywhere near the top of the delivery list
| SpykeZ wrote: | bleh, I always urge people to stay away from HTC, their phones are cheap shit, their support for their phones blow dick, and their battery life is horrible, not too mention their shit UI that takes them months of extra time to push an update to their phone, which isn't all that likely cause they'd rather release a new phone than update an older one.
Friend has an HTC, he's throwing it in the garbage for a motorola. Friend just got an HTC with winmobile, she's bringing it back this weekend to get a samsung android.
HTC = fancy looking phone...nothing much else. |
Hm, well from what I've heard and read (a lot actually), HTC used to be so-so quality wise, but that was a somewhat long time ago - the Desire/Desire HD for example has been praised for it's quality and the quality "feel" it has. Aluminium unibody construction = fap. |
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hmm if that's the case then good, alunimum body = win. If it has sense UI on it though, whcih im sure it does, pass |
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Nov 2010 09:47 Post subject: |
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| SpykeZ wrote: | | hmm if that's the case then good, alunimum body = win. If it has sense UI on it though, whcih im sure it does, pass |
The Desire HD has the latest HTC Sense, 2.0, and Swedroid said (half-ass translation by me):
"Desire HD and Sense 2.0 are simply one of the most stable combinations we've tried, maybe only falling short of the Nexus One and it's raw, clean Android experience. No annoying GPS-bugs, no issues with lagging or problematic touch screen - it all just works, both well and fast."
Also, when summarizing their review, they had the point "Absolute top quality in terms of materials and feel" in their Pro's-list.
And on another forum i frequently visit, some people were talking about the HD and Adnroid - while almost everyone who posted in the thread was very happy with their HTC handsets, one post really explained it for me - he had used old phones back when HTC was named Qtek, then early HTC phones, and he thought they were shit. And they probably were. But he had given the Desire a chance, and he loves it, and told us to forget anything regarding HTC that came out before 2009 - the new quality of their phones are great
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Nov 2010 10:10 Post subject: |
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Oh theres no issue with sense UI itself. It's the fact that it's a custom UI from HTC, so when an update comes out, instead of it getting instantly pushed to the phone like my motorola droid, HTC has to delay and re-program sense to work with new update
Thus why they're notorious for dropping phone support as likely as they are to release a new phone.
My buddy got a nice HTC phone, has 2.1 on it, HTC said fuck it and dropped the support for it cause they release 3 new phones 4 months later. Now he's stuck on 2.1. He's selling it and getting a motorola.
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Nov 2010 10:34 Post subject: |
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LOL at people waiting for "official" updates.  A A A A. If people bother getting an Android phone, time to "grow up" and lrn2xda. People are releasing updates all the time for all phones, official supported or not. (Not just for Android phones, A started as a WM developers community.) Official support will always end eventually, sooner or later, doesn't matter. Most unofficial ROMs are better anyway, so I don't see what the problem is. No, your warranty does not go bye bye if you flush a custom ROM.
HTC is the largest PDA and smartphone manufacturer in the world for a reason (not, their phones do not have low prices, so that's not the reason  ). They even manufactured Google's Nexus One, which was in direct competition to their own Android phones. Calling them cheap is immensely stupid, especially coming from someone using a Motorola device. The Sense UI, like anything in any modular system is removable. And as with all customized devices, people make "clean" ROMs for these people that do not like the custom GUIs that may be memory hungry. (I'm using a clean 6.5.5 WM ROM now for example.)
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Nov 2010 10:37 Post subject: |
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Im calling HTC cheap because their shitty phones are just that, cheap crappy plastic designs that break if you drop them.
Motorolla at least builds their androids with heavy casing and uses gorilla glas so scratches and so forth aren't a problem
People shouldn't have to learn how to hack and root phones to get support for them.
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Nov 2010 10:56 Post subject: |
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Ah I see, so having to jailbreak a device to change the wallpaper and icon theme is acceptable, but having to do few simple steps to UPGRADE YOUR FUCKING OS is not.
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Nov 2010 11:03 Post subject: |
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I know a lot of people who aren't tech savy period (half the android market) to root an android phone (theres a lot more to it than jailbreaking an iPhone) My friends Amy and Danielle both love their androids for what they can do with it, but rooting it? Doubt they'd ever be able to figure that all out. They simply aren't into tech like that.
So with that said, yes I expect a company to back their phones by pushing updates without someone having to hack their phone to get it, theres no reason for them not to either, the phones have more than enough power, and 2.2 made the OS even faster than it previously was. It's just down to either greed (HTC releasing more phones than it does updates) or pure lazyness..(oh look, HTC can take this spot too)
oh and leo, I fucking LOL'd at your sig. It'd be my luck if I bought a cemetary lmao
[edit] Just ran this benchmark to see where my phone rated at. IT's OC'd to 800mhz and got 1067
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Nov 2010 11:09 Post subject: |
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You could disable sense from earlier Sense roms, tbh it wont effect me because one of the first things I will do will be to root it (something I need to research before placing my order later today of course)
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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Nov 2010 11:09 Post subject: |
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Same friends wouldn't care if they run Android 2.1 or 2.2 or 3.0 beta as long as it's stable and they can run their SMS and browsers (typical derp behavior - why does someone get a smartphone or a PDA if they use the features of a normal phone). So I don't see the point still. You are tech savvy, therefore know about updates, and improvements in the Android OS, thus you want to update - and you know how to. Your friends are happy with what they have. It's similar BTW with the iPhone in the case of the non-techsavvy friends. They just have no clue what jailbreaking is (unless someone tells them), so they are happy with what they have. The smarter users jailbreak, but sorry, iPhone OS is an insult to anyone with a little intelligence, so there you have it.
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