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vurt
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 Posted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 12:36 Post subject: |
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| JBeckman wrote: | I'm still there at 12 hours or so into the game, level 28 currently and still a few places left to explore and a variety of quests, I don't find it bad looking though the savanna part of it might look a bit bland.
(The cities are quite a different story as is the other locations, getting close to progressing to the next area but there's still more to do before I choose to continue.) |
someone at the official forums says he finished it at level 41 and only 20 hours in.. sounds quite disapointing. have you visited the largest island? seems like the game is quite empty except for the first region, if he's not trolling..
http://board.zuxxez.com/showthread.php?t=35648
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 12:41 Post subject: |
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Maybe he didn't do many sidequests?
EDIT: he says he did most of the quests...hmm..donno...we'll see!
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 12:42 Post subject: |
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Alright guys, so I gave it a try and while it's running smooth and awesome on my primary gaming rig, it's running like nothing I've ever seen before on my notebook, it's ridiculous.
Problem is I'm usually away during most of the week, so I don't get to play much on my gaming rig, thus the reason why I've given it a try on my notebook.
My notebook is by no means a beast, on the contrary, but aside from the gfx card (3.0 shader, 512 mb as a minimum, according to the manual), it meets full requirements. Regardless of the settings, the workload on the dual cpus are at a constant 62-68%, plenty of ram to spare etc..
Here's what I don't get. Everything stutters from the get go, everything lol, even the frigging .wmv/.ogg intro (logos and battle scene). The menu stutters like hell, the game stutters like hell, like I said, everything. It's ridiculously bad, and was getting an average of 2-4 fps when I tested it last night... 2-4 fps!? LMAO
So anyway, I change the settings, everything is set to low including the resolution and BANG, no stuttering and instantly up at 70-80 fps. I then leave the resolution to the lowest possible (640x480 lol) and everything else on the highest and still getting 70-80 fps. Despite the godawful resolution, I can tell the higher settings are applied (looking at the lighting, textures etc).
So far so good. I then apply a slightly higher resolution, 720x480 to be specific and BANG, back to 2-4 fps. WHAT THE HELL!? Makes no sense whatsoever. So much for the brilliant optimization..
Any ideas guys? :/
Running WinXP SP3 and the notebook runs games like FO:NV at maximum resolution, medium settings at 35 fps.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 12:45 Post subject: |
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maybe you should "optimize" your rig, no ?
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LMLM
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 12:51 Post subject: |
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sbound what does GPU-Z say about your video hardware on your laptop. Screenshot please.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 12:52 Post subject: |
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Playing since 9 hours and im lvl 24. I finished the first act right now...
So i think the 20hour-player is a "runner" who only played the mainquests...
Charakter lvl 24
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 12:58 Post subject: |
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I'm sure that people who enjoy looking through every corner will get the most from this game. I've played about 5-6 hours and I'm lvl14 currently. Sure, I've been doing horse races, looking through places, enjoyed views and doing every side quest I can.
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vurt
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 12:59 Post subject: |
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| 3dcViper wrote: | Playing since 9 hours and im lvl 24. I finished the first act right now...
So i think the 20hour-player is a "runner" who only played the mainquests...
Charakter lvl 24
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he says he did most quests.
i must be really slow, i'm 13 hours in, level 21, havent finished the first region, seems like there's a lot of quests left. hmm maybe the game counts hours even if have hit esc and tabbed out though, so maybe its not 13h of real gametime.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 13:00 Post subject: |
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| LMLM wrote: | | sbound what does GPU-Z say about your video hardware on your laptop. Screenshot please. |
Here ya go mate..
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6239/screendumpgpu.gif
It's an old card, I know but it should be capable of running this game. Obviously there's something wrong when it changes that much when changing the resolution.
I tried the latest FW drivers from http://www.laptopvideo2go.com but to no avail, so I reverted back to my preferred ones.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated as I'm kinda "stuck" with my notebook most of the time hehe.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 13:01 Post subject: |
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Guys, guys... don't let some random net douche spoil the enjoyment you're having. Don't forget; "apparently" you can finish Mass Effect 2 with every single side-quest in less than 17hrs according to certain people  People like that are speed-running liars, just ignore them and concentrate on enjoying the game yourself <3
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It's an old card, I know but it should be capable of running this game. Obviously there's something wrong when it changes that much when changing the resolution.
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Uhhh.... no. Absolutely not. Sorry bud, but a DESKTOP variant of the GeForce 7600 wouldn't be enough to run this game at higher resolutions, let alone the half-power mobile version. Just be happy you can run it at all, let alone with some of the higher settings. Like I, and a few others, said earlier; this game TOASTS our cards. I'm rocking a Radeon 4870 and it really forces it to work at 1680. If a MOBILE 7600 could match the same performance as my 4870, I'd be absolutely gobsmacked
You'll get even worse framerate issues when you increase the resolution since you only have 256MB of VRAM. The game would chug as it constantly swaps texture data out of RAM.
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vurt
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 13:03 Post subject: |
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That's a really low end card.. i doubt you can get even close to a good framerate with that.. it's also a notebook version, they're always much slower than the "standard" edition of the same card. 256MB memory only too.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 13:05 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: | | That's a really low end card.. i doubt you can get even close to a good framerate with that.. it's also a notebook version, they're always much slower than the "standard" edition of the same card. 256MB memory only too. |
This. 256 memory is too low.
Thats the reason your performance goes to shit when upping your resolution.
Higher memory = Bigger resolution
Squirrely: Now come on y'all. We can't waste time arguing. There could still be survivors out there. We need to hunt them down, and kill them.
Beary: How about we kill them, and then rape their bodies so we can use their blood as lubricant.
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LMLM
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 13:07 Post subject: |
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Yeah keep textures at the lowest setting. But you might be able to bump some of the other settings up. Good luck with that card. Be glad if you can play it.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 13:08 Post subject: |
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Can someone who has played Drakensang 2 already compare TW2 to that? I don't have much gaming time, so I'd like to spend that precious time on the better game.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 13:10 Post subject: |
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To be perfectly honest.. I have trouble believing you're getting anywhere NEAR 70fps with high settings on that card, regardless of resolution.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 13:14 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | To be perfectly honest.. I have trouble believing you're getting anywhere NEAR 70fps with high settings on that card, regardless of resolution. |
Well that's the truth, it's running perfectly smooth which I why I'm scratching my head. I never expected to play this at a high resolution with high settings, that's just stupid thinking. However, I did reckon playing at reasonable resolution with low settings would work given how it's performing in most other games.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 13:25 Post subject: |
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game has 'only' 200 quests
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LMLM
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 13:25 Post subject: |
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Forgot to say... Resolution doesn't impact video RAM usage much. Your 256M on that card is plenty to handle a high resolution. It's the game textures that take the vast majority of video RAM space. So I think that you can get a playable framerate at 1024x768 or maybe even a bit higher. But there might be a bug in the game or your video driver causing your 2-4 fps issue for your 7600go.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 13:27 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | sbound wrote: | | sabin1981 wrote: | | To be perfectly honest.. I have trouble believing you're getting anywhere NEAR 70fps with high settings on that card, regardless of resolution. |
Well that's the truth, it's running perfectly smooth which I why I'm scratching my head. I never expected to play this at a high resolution with high settings, that's just stupid thinking. However, I did reckon playing at reasonable resolution with low settings would work given how it's performing in most other games. |
Well the 7600 really was an outstanding card back when it came out, always surprised the hell out of me what it was capable of  In fact, the only card I've ever had that surprised me more was the old Radeon 9700PRO (or 9500NP flashed to 9700PRO) They were supposed to be low/mid-range cards that absolutely spanked! 
Since you get such a massive performance hit when increasing res, no matter the settings, you may be best off just accepting the 640x480 and enjoying the rest of the game with your high settings. Like you said; you tried LOW settings and higher res but that just gave you the same result as high settings/high res. |
Yeah it's an alright card, still gets the job done most of the times (high resolution, medium settings and low to no shadows has proven to be a brilliant combination for todays games) if you're on the fly and to be honest, I don't see the need of investing in a new gaming notebook as I just invested in my gaming rig back home not too long ago and that certainly didn't come cheap.
As for playing this otherwise GREAT game at godawful resolutions like that, fat chance hehe. I'm gonna follow LMLM's advice and try a bunch of FW drivers and if that doesn't fix it, I'll just have to be patient and play in the weekends when I'm home. Kinda sucks but it is what it is I guess.. 
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 13:42 Post subject: |
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| sbound wrote: | Guys, I know I know... but think about it for a moment.
High settings, res 740x480: 2-4 fps (average)
High settings, res 680x480: 70+ fps (average)
Low settings, res 740x480: 2-4 fps (average)
Low settings, res 680x480: 70+ fps (average)
Tell me that makes sense. There's clearly something wrong. I get the whole "don't complain, it's an old card etc" deal but this ain't right, that much I know. |
Well, your card has 256MB of memory. It says 512, but those remaining 256 are taken from your normal computer RAM which is slower, not optimized for video cards and much 'farther away' from the actual card. It's a very small increase in resolution, true, but it probably pushes you just over the 256MB of vRAM. That's why you get the huge drop. Any card will experience a similar drop when out of vRAM.
Do try new drivers though, just to be sure.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 14:37 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: | | 3dcViper wrote: | Playing since 9 hours and im lvl 24. I finished the first act right now...
So i think the 20hour-player is a "runner" who only played the mainquests...
Charakter lvl 24
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he says he did most quests.
i must be really slow, i'm 13 hours in, level 21, havent finished the first region, seems like there's a lot of quests left. hmm maybe the game counts hours even if have hit esc and tabbed out though, so maybe its not 13h of real gametime. |
Yeah ppl like him allways say, that he did most of the quests.. and in the end they didnt.. they only did the mainquests and the quests that are related to the mainquests...
There are allways ppl like him. Same as in Arcania where someone said, he finished the game in 10 hours and he did all quests.. lol...
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 14:49 Post subject: |
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How do I change the graphic settings?
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